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Kablooie

(18,891 posts)
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:11 AM Tuesday

Nissan and Subaru may be closing US plants and moving back to Japan

Last edited Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

A loss of 40,000 jobs.
Just to be clear, this was from online chatting, not official news sources so I don’t know how reliable it is.

But it got me thinking., with the chaos and higher prices for so many supplies and materials, could it be cheaper for companies to produce their products outside the US, where prices are stable and reasonable, and then import the finished product and pay only one final tariff?

If so, there could be that big sucking sound again with more manufacturing jobs than ever disappearing.


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Nissan and Subaru may be closing US plants and moving back to Japan (Original Post) Kablooie Tuesday OP
So much winning! Time to bring him down. If Congress won't, we have to. marble falls Tuesday #1
Third time's the charm. Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #8
oh thats harsh Demovictory9 Tuesday #2
"The Art of the Deal"? Straw Man Tuesday #3
Some of the cars they build in America are sold in Canada. unblock Tuesday #4
Yes and they also avoid mulitple tariffs moniss Tuesday #6
I had a 1992 Nissan pickup.. Permanut Tuesday #5
I had a 1974 Datsun Pickup. MineralMan Tuesday #18
As long as there is a domestic market where the cars are built, there is an advantage, but the devil is in the details DFW Tuesday #7
Are those Union jobs? BidenRocks Tuesday #9
Per the local news in Indianapolis, they are not closing, but retooling Bristlecone Tuesday #10
Donald J. Trump, the J stands for "JFC, that man's a moron!" tanyev Tuesday #11
Nissan Canton MS Homoudont Tuesday #12
Nissan is going bankrupt. GoCubsGo Tuesday #13
Great job to the asshole in chief. spanone Tuesday #14
Again..... democratsruletheday Tuesday #16
They're retooling. See above. bif Tuesday #15
"Blame us. We did it. Sorry not sorry." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Tuesday #17

Straw Man

(6,865 posts)
3. "The Art of the Deal"?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:40 AM
Tuesday

Oh Donald ...

As a friend of mine is fond of saying, "In his defense, he's a very stupid man."

unblock

(55,059 posts)
4. Some of the cars they build in America are sold in Canada.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:42 AM
Tuesday

They can't avoid the tariffs for the cars they sell in America, but they can avoid them for the ones they sell in Canada simply by cutting out America. Produce the cars in Japan and ship them to Vancouver, avoiding the u.s. entirely.

I know it comes as a shock to all of us, but broad-based tariffs are stupid.

moniss

(7,194 posts)
6. Yes and they also avoid mulitple tariffs
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:07 AM
Tuesday

on components and sub-assemblies moving back and forth across borders. It becomes an accounting nightmare trying to keep track of it all with thousands of shipments every day. Let alone trying to keep track of the constantly changing tariff levels.

MineralMan

(148,979 posts)
18. I had a 1974 Datsun Pickup.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:21 AM
Tuesday

Over the years, I have owned several small Japanese-made pickup trucks. All did their job in an excellent way.

I mourn the passing of small imported pickup trucks.

DFW

(57,871 posts)
7. As long as there is a domestic market where the cars are built, there is an advantage, but the devil is in the details
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:56 AM
Tuesday

If you have a factory in the USA, and American employees (remember--the dollar has lost over 10% against the Euro in just two months!), you have an edge up as far as tariffs go, EXCEPT if many of the parts are still made overseas and need to be imported. If a Nissan is assembled in the USA, but the chassis, the motor, and the electronics are still made outside of the USA, they will be subject to tariffs regardless. Besides, if any of those cars are designated for sale beyond the borders of the USA (as in Canada or Mexico), they will be subject to the same punitive tariffs that we just put on their products.

In a humorous study on diplomats in 1960, Peter Ustinov once characterized the British "no" vote as their diplomat saying something like, "before we send a gunboat, we should pause and ask ourselves whether our enemy has not a gunboat, too--in fact the one we sold him."

BidenRocks

(1,399 posts)
9. Are those Union jobs?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:15 AM
Tuesday

If not, they likely are right to work chump voters.
How's that workin' out?

Homoudont

(105 posts)
12. Nissan Canton MS
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:26 AM
Tuesday

Nissan has been struggling for a while now and they've been cutting shifts and jobs in Canton MS for some time. I think the downfall of both Nissan and Subaru have more to do with their product then anything else.

Without getting into too much technical depth the nissan and subaru CVT's (transmission) are garbage. Some of them barely lasting 100k miles. Both manufactures went the cheaper route. Toyota and Honda CVT's are solid transmissions and one of the differences in at least the Toyota is they they have a 1st gear before it moves over to the CVT. Starting off for the CVT's is pretty hard on the trans so having a first gear alleviates this and why Toyota CVT are far superior.

GoCubsGo

(33,776 posts)
13. Nissan is going bankrupt.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:27 AM
Tuesday

If they're actually leaving, it has way more to do with that. Not seeing anything other than social media claims that Subaru is closing up shop, either.

democratsruletheday

(1,293 posts)
16. Again.....
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:11 AM
Tuesday

this is what he and his minions want.....an upper class and a lower class: that's IT. No two ways about it. Looking to implode the country.

bif

(25,303 posts)
15. They're retooling. See above.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:09 AM
Tuesday

Maybe you should either revise your headline or self delete.

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