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Old Crank

(5,615 posts)
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:55 AM Tuesday

Heck of a job Trump. Poilievre losses his seat


Everything Trump touches goes to .....

Canada’s conservative leader Pierre Poilievre loses his own seat in election collapse
The remarkable campaign was upended by a backlash against U.S. President Donald Trump, which sparked a stunning liberal resurgence.

Canada’s conservative leader lost his own seat in Monday’s election to cap off a stunning electoral meltdown that saw the Liberal Party rise from the polling doldrums to secure victory.

Pierre Poilievre, who faced off against Mark Carney and the incumbent center-left Liberals, lost his seat in rural Ottawa to Liberal candidate Bruce Fanjoy, national broadcaster CBC reported.



https://www.politico.eu/article/pierre-poilievre-mark-carney-canada-election-conservative-liberal/
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Heck of a job Trump. Poilievre losses his seat (Original Post) Old Crank Tuesday OP
The more important thing now is if liberals can get a majority Meowmee Tuesday #1
There are concerns that P won't lead Old Crank Tuesday #4
He already said he will Meowmee Tuesday #5
He says Old Crank Tuesday #7
Lol we will see 😀 Meowmee Tuesday #23
He has to hold a seat to serve as leader. AloeVera Tuesday #13
It's a minority gov with the separatist Bloc Quebecois holding the balance of power. Justice matters. Tuesday #31
I read it was minority now but not all the details yet... just reading about it. Meowmee Tuesday #36
It's OK. The PQ is the provincial party in the Quebec elections. Justice matters. Tuesday #37
Thanks for all the detail 😁 Meowmee Tuesday #41
I just reviewed the results and realized PM Carney does not need the BQ. Justice matters. Tuesday #42
I was talking to my brother about it last night or early am and thought he said something about ndp 😁 Meowmee Tuesday #44
Nope it is a minority government with 169 seats (3 away from majority) with the New democrats with 7 and Bev54 Tuesday #38
Great news malaise Tuesday #2
For much, if not most, of the world MLWR Tuesday #3
This makes me smile. nt Phoenix61 Tuesday #6
the pendulum appears to finally be swinging back. Javaman Tuesday #8
May it swing here. pandr32 Tuesday #26
Everything the GOP felon-rapist touches turns to shit BoRaGard Tuesday #9
Yeah, Poily, ya hoser, ya! marble falls Tuesday #12
Oh Canada! NNadir Tuesday #10
Mango T. Jebus has finally effectively caused an outcome in an election. I hope he has the same ... marble falls Tuesday #11
Canadians actually know how to fight back against Trumpism. hadEnuf Tuesday #16
TBH, it's not that difficult for them. maxsolomon Tuesday #32
At least Canadians realize our guy Trump is no good. Midnight Writer Tuesday #14
They didn't get a chance to learn how to love him on NBC. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #30
Happy for you Canada blubunyip Tuesday #15
thank you. i hope carney keeps him out of this country for the g7 dawn5651 Wednesday #48
This is what will happen in the U.S. when we Dump Trump, which we will.. a huge shift Left. Joinfortmill Tuesday #17
The parliamentary system SLClarke Tuesday #18
Boom! Yes! nt wolfie001 Tuesday #19
Well done, Canada. Magoo48 Tuesday #20
Kick dalton99a Tuesday #21
He has already made moves to have an elected conservative in an Edmonton riding Bev54 Tuesday #39
Hopefully, this will spread internationally... Wounded Bear Tuesday #22
Do not pass go, do not collect $200 EnergizedLib Tuesday #24
I am thrilled our trump clone lost his seat... Spazito Tuesday #25
Indeed it was. AloeVera Tuesday #27
Yep, hindsight is 20/20... Spazito Tuesday #28
Fanjoy beat the trumpy fascist MagickMuffin Tuesday #29
It is sublime that the most joyless man in Canadian politics was upended by a man with actual joy in his name. Bev54 Tuesday #40
Love the "Heckofajob!" Grins Tuesday #33
"polling doldrums" doesn't begin to cover this turnaround. BobTheSubgenius Tuesday #34
i just hope that the crap party as i call them sends pp a message that they no longer want him as leader. dawn5651 Tuesday #35
There's a sound of knives being sharpened in the Canadian Conservative Party as I write this. ClarencesBrother Tuesday #43
that is what i believe is going to happen...saw his interview where he was eating a apple..and if you dawn5651 Wednesday #47
What I hate about all this is that the NDP is pretty much dead now yliza Tuesday #45
So much winning. Heckuva job, Chumpy Hassler Tuesday #46

Meowmee

(8,913 posts)
1. The more important thing now is if liberals can get a majority
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:02 AM
Tuesday

and have more power. P will still lead the conservatives even if he lost his seat.

It’s still great Carney is the PM.

Old Crank

(5,615 posts)
4. There are concerns that P won't lead
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:11 AM
Tuesday

Especially after this disastrous showing. The election was theirs to lose. And he lost it.

We will see.

Old Crank

(5,615 posts)
7. He says
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:26 AM
Tuesday

What will the party say. If they are smart they will dump him and his other baggage other than liking Trump.

AloeVera

(2,571 posts)
13. He has to hold a seat to serve as leader.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:06 AM
Tuesday

He made the announcement he would stay as leader before he found out he lost his own seat.

Looks good on him.

The party may try to parachute him into another riding with a by-election. Doubtful though.

Justice matters.

(8,330 posts)
31. It's a minority gov with the separatist Bloc Quebecois holding the balance of power.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:35 PM
Tuesday

Racist Albertains scream independence to become the orange menace's 51st state...

They should create their own provincial separatist party like the Parti Quebecois in Quebec does, otherwise they have zero chance of ever doing it.

Meowmee

(8,913 posts)
36. I read it was minority now but not all the details yet... just reading about it.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:08 PM
Tuesday

My brother said conservatives gained a lot too, so it was a thin margin. I didn't know pq was still separatist. Yikes, those Albertans are nuts, I assume not all.

Justice matters.

(8,330 posts)
37. It's OK. The PQ is the provincial party in the Quebec elections.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:19 PM
Tuesday

The BQ (Bloc Québécois) is the (brother) party that presents candidates in federal elections only. It now holds the "balance of power" in Ottawa's Chamber of Communes (Parliament system) where it must side with the Liberal minority there in order to keep the government passing its bills, thus remaining at the elms.

That means that PM Carney and his team must negotiate every vote with the BQ in order to stay in power. If the BQ decides to vote against any of his bills, thus siding with the conservatives opposing them, the minority could be defeated and a new election would have to be called to sort it out.

Each federal election costs a lot of money to each party, and their coffers are near empty at the moment, so no party holding the balance of power is interested to provoke a new election soon, unless, like for example, the provincial separatist party (PQ) was to win a majority in Quebec and would hold a winning referendum for Quebec's separation, and then Ottawa would refuse to recognize the results; that would be unacceptable for the federal delegation in the Bloc, of course. The Bloc could then "defeat" any bill there (if the cons would oppose that same bill), provoking a federal election to be called.

It's kind of unpredictable at the moment, but the next provincial election in Quebec is not in the view yet.

Meowmee

(8,913 posts)
41. Thanks for all the detail 😁
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:44 PM
Tuesday

I have to read more about it. My brother understands it all. I guess we should have been voting but we never have for Canadian elections.

Justice matters.

(8,330 posts)
42. I just reviewed the results and realized PM Carney does not need the BQ.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:08 PM
Tuesday

So my explanation is not accurate now.

He needs the small delegation of the NDP (New Democratic Party, the "Left&quot and the smaller 1 instead.

172 is the majority mark.

He has 169 and the NDP has 7.

These may change as a few recounts will have to be held in narrow gap wins.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o

Meowmee

(8,913 posts)
44. I was talking to my brother about it last night or early am and thought he said something about ndp 😁
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:14 PM
Tuesday

It's all a blur. I have not slept much 😹

Bev54

(12,400 posts)
38. Nope it is a minority government with 169 seats (3 away from majority) with the New democrats with 7 and
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:27 PM
Tuesday

green party with 1. He does not need the bloq, thankfully.

BoRaGard

(5,221 posts)
9. Everything the GOP felon-rapist touches turns to shit
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:37 AM
Tuesday

Tuff nuts Poily. Hang with a lying scumbucket, wind up a loser

marble falls

(65,053 posts)
11. Mango T. Jebus has finally effectively caused an outcome in an election. I hope he has the same ...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:04 AM
Tuesday

... effect in every election from now on!

Midnight Writer

(23,837 posts)
14. At least Canadians realize our guy Trump is no good.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:14 AM
Tuesday

A bit of a sanity check for me, since about everyone I talk to thinks he's great.

Canadians re-affirm my judgement.

Kid Berwyn

(20,208 posts)
30. They didn't get a chance to learn how to love him on NBC.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:47 PM
Tuesday

From Google the not-dumb smart A.I.:

The Apprentice was so successful that, according to Trump, he earned $214 million from 14 seasons of the show, plus more from related product licensing as his name as a brand became more valuable. As the popularity of the series grew, more and more of the tasks began to be tied to specific companies.

SLClarke

(59 posts)
18. The parliamentary system
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:41 AM
Tuesday

This is AMAZING, truly amazing! In the parliamentary system, the head of the party usually comes from a very safe seat, and mostly has a 100% chance of keeping it. For Poilievre to lose his seat to a Liberal candidate makes it an even more powerful statement of the dislike that Canadians have for That One.
I, a an immigrant from England, am stunned by the result. Delighted too.

Bev54

(12,400 posts)
39. He has already made moves to have an elected conservative in an Edmonton riding
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:34 PM
Tuesday

give up his seat for PP to run in a bi-election. Carney has to call for the bi-election, which is fun. Poilievre will forever be in opposition, he does not know how to govern and not sure he even wants to. He likes being a Maple Maga acting like a vindictive, grievance guided, nasty immature juvenile.

Wounded Bear

(61,839 posts)
22. Hopefully, this will spread internationally...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:44 AM
Tuesday

There has been a resurgence of extreme right wing politics around the globe, and the rise of fascisitic/autocratic regimes in Europe and elsewhere. Nice to see Canada beat that movement down. I hope the rest of the world follows.

Go Canada!

AloeVera

(2,571 posts)
27. Indeed it was.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:23 AM
Tuesday

Poilievre is probably kicking himself now for going after Trudeau so viciously and unfairly. Talk about cutting off your nose!

Spazito

(55,180 posts)
28. Yep, hindsight is 20/20...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:40 AM
Tuesday

Had Trudeau stayed we would be seeing a majority Con government, imo, that would sell Canada out without a second thought.

Bev54

(12,400 posts)
40. It is sublime that the most joyless man in Canadian politics was upended by a man with actual joy in his name.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:37 PM
Tuesday

Grins

(8,323 posts)
33. Love the "Heckofajob!"
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:16 PM
Tuesday

First said by the 3rd worst president, the smirking dry-drunk who said it to his director of FEMA, Mike Brown. Before he fired him….

BobTheSubgenius

(11,987 posts)
34. "polling doldrums" doesn't begin to cover this turnaround.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:31 PM
Tuesday

I was actually worried that Carney was campaigning much, MUCH too little. I have no idea what the numbers were, but I'd venture to say that the Liberals were outspent at least 5 to 1...but perhaps that was a parallax view, so to speak, because of living in coastal BCGreater Vancouver. It's fairly reliably both lower case "l" and upper case "L" and they were spending money more judiciously.

I disliked Poilievre and his campaign from the first time I saw his OFT-repeated campaign video. It was simplistic and unrealistic to the point of being insulting. His "common sense budget" was going to stop crime, make housing (a nice house in a good, safe neighbourhood!!!!), make us all able to put "good food" on the table and several other ridiculous claims.

If that was possible, you'd think someone before him would have stumbled onto "common sense." When it became obvious (or more obvious) that he was a Junior Drumpf. my dislike became disdain, then outright loathing.

dawn5651

(703 posts)
35. i just hope that the crap party as i call them sends pp a message that they no longer want him as leader.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:58 PM
Tuesday

ClarencesBrother

(18 posts)
43. There's a sound of knives being sharpened in the Canadian Conservative Party as I write this.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:09 PM
Tuesday

Many Conservatives are pissed that PP blew this election, nor do they appreciate his style, arrogant, egotistical, leading by fear and not allowing any of his party to speak to the press without him and his cronies vetting every word. Sound familiar? Trust me, the knives are coming out.

dawn5651

(703 posts)
47. that is what i believe is going to happen...saw his interview where he was eating a apple..and if you
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 12:41 AM
Wednesday

haven't seen the billboard that fanjoy paid for its worth a look...i honestly believe that the support of the freedumb convoy is what made people start to think..that was disgusting him supporting them while they were terrorizing people in that neighbourhood.

yliza

(127 posts)
45. What I hate about all this is that the NDP is pretty much dead now
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:23 PM
Tuesday

I hope they can make a comeback. I don’t want Canada to become a two party country like the US. We just got national dental care because the Liberals needed the NDP to form a government in the last election.

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