"Still no Epstein files": After Virginia Giuffre dies, MAGA conspiracists struggle to keep the faith

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"Still no Epstein files": After Virginia Giuffre dies, MAGA conspiracists struggle to keep the faith
A decade in, it's getting harder to believe Trump will expose the secret Satanic Democratic cabal ruling the world

By Amanda Marcotte
Senior Writer
Published April 30, 2025 6:02AM (EDT)


(Salon) It seemed as though QAnon was everywhere a few years ago, but in recent months, the name of this infamous Donald Trump-worshipping cult has faded from headlines. Sadly, it's not because they went away. Instead, the already-porous boundary between the mainstream GOP and the conspiracy cult has collapsed completely. Elected Republican leaders now spend taxpayer money hyping debunked conspiracy theories, while popular MAGA influencers keep up a steady stream of ever-stranger claims that mysterious forces run the world — and are, of course, out to get Trump.

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The central QAnon belief is that a secret cabal of Satanic pedophilic Democrats runs much of the world and that Trump is prophesied to be a savior who will expose them all. They now hang their hopes on the belief that the mythical "Epstein files" will fulfill the prophecy. But even though Trump now controls the federal government and has appointed lickspittles to run the Justice Department (DOJ) and FBI, those "Epstein files" keep not showing up. The reason is that they don't exist.

Rather than level with the conspiracists and risk losing them forever, however, Trump and his team keep lying. Trump said they'd be here in "two weeks" — over a month ago. Attorney General Pam Bondi showily gave them binders of "Epstein files," which proved to be just the already public information, because there isn't any more. Then Trump released the classified files from President John F. Kennedy's assassination, hoping to distract them, but no cigar.

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Other MAGA figureheads are trying to strike a balance between defending Trump and keeping the "Epstein files" conspiracy theory alive. But it's not going well. Donald Trump Jr. blamed the Clintons for Giuffre's death. Alongside all the liberals on X reminding him that Giuffre was recruited by Epstein when she was working at Mar-a-Lago, he was swarmed by right-wing users complaining, "AG Bambi isn’t releasing the[] files" and the "administration should’ve already released the files like they promised." The pressure is getting so bad that both Alex Jones and Glenn Beck released videos begging their audiences to stop blaming Bondi, FBI Director Kash Patel or FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino for the lack of "Epstein files." ..................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2025/04/30/still-no-epstein-files-after-virginia-giuffre-dies-maga-conspiracists-struggle-to-keep-the-faith/

[Vogon_Glory]

1. Still no Epstein files? I've news for the faithful Qs

There are some people in very high positions in this administration who have very good reason to see that those files (If they exist) are never found at all.

[Wounded Bear]

2. I'm afraid that there are a lot of names in those files...

probably from both sides of the aisle, sad to say.

[Vogon_Glory]

3. Probably, but still, I wonder why some of those

Democrat names and files weren’t leaked either during the first Trump administration or during the run-up to the 2024 elections. I don’t believe that the current Great White Father would refrain from such name-dropping out of the goodness of his heart.

[Hotler]

8. IMO. Once he drops a name it's no longer a threat. He gets more mileage using it as a threat. nt

[Johnny2X2X]

4. What if there are no incriminating files?

Epstein was a creep and a sicko, but it's not like he was running a brothel. He was a billionaire, he didn't need to make money off selling sex with teenaged girls, he kept them around because he's a sicko and some of his friends were sickos too.

But it's more complicated than just thinking everyone Epstein ever made a phone call to is guilty of something. Epstein was a New York socialite, he knew thousands of powerful and famous people the overwhelming majority of who have never been accused of so much as looking at one of the teenaged girls Epstein kept at his houses.

If hsi freinds did engage in illegal activities, it's not like there would be a written record of it. The only ones you can assume are guilty by association are the ones who have been credibly accused....like Trump for instance. Or Alan Derchowitz.

[Johonny]

6. He was a blackmailer

And most believe that is how he established his economic empire. Unlike Trump, he was smart enough to invest. But it is generally believed he blackmailed many powerful and wealthy men. Mostly connected to the NYC scene.

How did he blackmail, did he have phsical evidence . . . Or was it just the threat of exposure that worked. No one knows. No one really has disclosed how Epstein operated. The blackmail angle could all be bullshit. Likely what evidence, if it ever existed, was destroyed when he got in trouble in Florida.

[Johnny2X2X]

9. I have seen no evidence of this

Only rumors and conspiracy theories.

[Johonny]

5. I cant believe a man that partied with Epstein

Would somehow prevent full disclosure of Epstein's activities. It is almost like . . .

[BoRaGard]

7. "Golly gee, that is so strange." - Kinky Krasnov the Klawbacker (R-FelonRapist)