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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo many excuses for Dems to suck up to The Chump
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is the latest.
Either you are for stopping this descent into fascism or you are NOT.
It's not about YOUR fucking state.
It's about ALL of the United States of America at this point.

Skittles
(163,831 posts)NO ONE should be even PRETENDING to show respect to that FASCIST POS
TearsOfDaClowned
(21 posts)...I don't know which it is.. but New York Governor Hochul chancing that she can hold 'Congestion Pricing' together and avoiding a defiant confrontation while appearing to cajole Trump with factual progress & stand behind the legalities of Biden Admin approvals to buy more time and POSSIBLY achieve important state objectives may not have the fire of outright resistance but getting s*** done in the face of bulls roaring through the China shop is still IMPORTANT! Maintain course under fire!
Whitmer took some lumps a few weeks back with the awkward timing of her DC visit. But Selfridge looks like a DEM governor holding firm and showing important leadership and representing the interests of MICHIGANDERS. Opportunities to OWN Trump are not going to come easily but handling the business of YOUR CONSTITUENTS including the US Military at this time sounds like a good thing to represent for a DEM gov.
OneGrassRoot
(23,714 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(19,200 posts)Look at her record of progressive legislation signed into law in one year, with a one seat majority.
Shes unapologetically, unhesitatingly progressive- not a cautious, go-slow bone in her body.
Ponietz
(3,600 posts)Marshall Petain was a French national hero until he collaborated. Well see how her deal with the devil goes. That photo of the folder in front of her face will follow her around for the rest of her career.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,200 posts)Rather than excoriating someone trying to save thousands of jobs in her own state, perhaps you should look closer at those who voted for the Laken Riley Act, those who advise inaction in order to let things fall apart in the hope it will provide an opportunity for political advantage, those who propose not pushing too hard for the return of Garcia from El Salvador, and others whose reluctance to take risks to protect the victims of this regime is just a form of passive collaboration.
TearsOfDaClowned
(21 posts)He always reminded us that the Alamo was a win because the Mexicans besieged it. If they'd cut off access, food & water we'd be celebrating Cinco De Mayo in Houstonia!!
Americans, even we leftists, love the cataclysmic victory but those are rare. Let's show some love to our strategic players... some of our female Governors are showing grace under pressure and may end up as key players in how well this party regroups.
msongs
(71,173 posts)Tbear
(632 posts)Shes setting him up. Guaranteed.
Smiling while she picks his pocket.
Shes thinking about the 2028 presidential race.
Cheezoholic
(2,894 posts)I don't care how a Democrat gets in there to clean this mess up. Just do it.
choie
(5,392 posts)who doesnt kiss the ass of a someone who is destroying our democracy, thank you.
TearsOfDaClowned
(21 posts)mdbl
(6,360 posts)soldierant
(8,444 posts)then she's not thinking.
Much as I hate it, misogyny is so deeply rooted here that no woman will be able to win a Presidential election for at least a century -and maybe much longer.
TearsOfDaClowned
(21 posts)MIGHT be able to blunt the usual angles of attack.... Unattractive... Weak.... Vain... Out of her depth... Whitmer is already in the soup but if she can defy Trump's jump through the hoops challenges and best him a few times she might earn the grudging respect Clinton & Harris were unable to establish with the feral masses. The meritocractic credentialism which satisfies DEMS has been blunted in the center and right. If Whitmer can show just enough deviousness to hoist Trump on his own petard if that is what she's doing and can out talk Buttigieg she could be a contender.
soldierant
(8,444 posts)that we know of. Possibly much longer. It's not going away in a century without drastic changes in society - in education.
Racism is an infant compared to misogyny.
TearsOfDaClowned
(21 posts)ImNotGod
(670 posts)
Fiendish Thingy
(19,200 posts)Whitmer is still the most effective, progressive governor currently serving.
She did more in one year with a one seat majority in the legislature than most Democratic governors with large legislative majorities get done in two terms.
Cheezoholic
(2,894 posts)I have 0 problem with her and would vote for her in a heartbeat.
angrychair
(10,571 posts)Selling us out. By either giving them accolades and smiling and shaking their hands and doing speeches with the Mango Mussolini or helping pass his agenda by voting with Republicans in the Senate on CRs and Senate confirmed positions or writing serious letters, I'm tired of the excuses. Tired of watching our country torn apart and watching certain people act as if this is just minor policy differences while innocent people are literally being snatched off the street by secret police and sent to foreign torture prisons.
This has got to stop.
Cheezoholic
(2,894 posts)And if by chance we can these middle of the road corporate Democrats can eat dirt. It's going to be a MASSIVE undertaking with one single goal from the first day we have the chance. Pass every law we can to prevent this shit from ever happening again. There's no more respecting the other side or trusting them to do what's ethically right. If we have to weaponize the DOJ then do it. If we have to blow the filibuster away to get shit passed then do it. If we have to gerrymander districts back to sanity then do it. We have rested on our laurels and been riding the high road too long. Its time to fight, and fight dirty if we have to. Whatever it takes to save our country because right now, it's hanging on by the thinnest of threads.
Respectfully
choie
(5,392 posts)Its caring about someones integrity and ethics. There will be other candidates coming down the pike. The hell with her.
marti
(44 posts)Gretchen has done a great job for Michigan- She saved Selfridge Base- no matter the optics- quit trolling Democrats-
We need unity not self sabotage
Tribetime
(6,524 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(5,670 posts)I see the internet's wheels of poutrage are spinning, ready to replace her with a Republican, I suppose. Good grief. That'll teach everyone, eh?
betsuni
(27,846 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(5,670 posts)"... to punch him in the face, then that means they are sucking-up to him." (Or something.) 🤡
mac56
(17,718 posts)What do you expect?
TearsOfDaClowned
(21 posts)NNadir
(35,707 posts)The minute you're elected you'll stop the orange freak in his tracks based on your vast insight and capability.
There are so many people here who know exactly what to do, which, apparently, is to blog and declare their superiority.
red dog 1
(30,805 posts)NBachers
(18,459 posts)I can handle it.
TearsOfDaClowned
(21 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(5,670 posts)


JustAnotherGen
(34,799 posts)In Michigan to avoid sucking up to the Felon.
Murphy and the next Governor of NJ doesn't need the felon.
elocs
(24,186 posts)There are some here who would criticize her even had she slapped Trump.
Into the trash.