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elocs

(24,184 posts)
Thu May 1, 2025, 10:53 AM Thursday

Trump doesn't see Vance as his successor. Does he intend to need a successor?



Trump is not the forgiving type and so it was odd that he would choose Vance as his VP given that Vance once was openly a never-Trumper and said some nasty things about him.
So should Trump be watching his back or should Vance be watching his own?
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Trump doesn't see Vance as his successor. Does he intend to need a successor? (Original Post) elocs Thursday OP
Classic downfall of a tyrant - no room for successors other than feeble-minded offspring jmbar2 Thursday #1
Well in that case, Jr or Eric would be his successor sboatcar Thursday #2
In this term you're not really hearing about or from any of his kids. n/t elocs Thursday #7
Vance was being pushed forward by billionaire Peter Thiel. patphil Thursday #3
Trump shouldn't be on the ballot in 2020 because the Constitution is clear on that. elocs Thursday #9
I know Trump is banned from seeking a 3rd term, but he talks as if he will be on the ticket. patphil Thursday #12
An obese 78-year old man with THAT golf swing? Moostache Thursday #4
I thought he might die during his first term. Aristus Thursday #15
Think of how far down the hole we are after just 100 days Johnny2X2X Thursday #5
The US will never be the same again. We've lost all faith & trust in nations once our allies. elocs Thursday #10
Hes not going to endorse anyone Mountainguy Thursday #6
'Cuz you know... 2naSalit Thursday #8
Trump sees Vance as a badly trained foot stool. Just as he sees most people. Ping Tung Thursday #11
The MAGA movement dies when he does. Initech Thursday #13
"Trump is not the forgiving type" Polybius Thursday #14
Probably thinks he can fire him Retrograde Thursday #16
Trump thinks NO ONE is worthy Captain Zero Thursday #17
My guess is he's planning on Jr pinkstarburst Thursday #18
Trump intends to be full dictator by the time the next election cycle is here. hamsterjill Thursday #19

jmbar2

(6,839 posts)
1. Classic downfall of a tyrant - no room for successors other than feeble-minded offspring
Thu May 1, 2025, 10:56 AM
Thursday

sboatcar

(604 posts)
2. Well in that case, Jr or Eric would be his successor
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:00 AM
Thursday

And I don't want to jinx it, but neither of them are presidential material (though neither was their dad, and here we are)

patphil

(7,738 posts)
3. Vance was being pushed forward by billionaire Peter Thiel.
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:31 AM
Thursday

Thiel is a political activist, who has supported dozens of far right wing candidates. JD Vance is one of these candidates, and I think Trump accepted Vance because of campaign contributions from Thiel.
As a result, Trump most likely thinks Vance is more loyal to the man who made him than he would be to Trump. We all know that personal loyalty is the most important quality Trump wants to see in anyone who is on his team. Any question about Vance's loyalty would get him dumped as VP if there is a 2028 election, and Trump is on the Republican ticket.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/17/peter-thiel-boosted-jd-vance-career/74397520007/

elocs

(24,184 posts)
9. Trump shouldn't be on the ballot in 2020 because the Constitution is clear on that.
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:06 PM
Thursday

Plus, Trump needs to survive that long, especially mentally.

patphil

(7,738 posts)
12. I know Trump is banned from seeking a 3rd term, but he talks as if he will be on the ticket.
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:37 PM
Thursday

I'm not willing to write him off unless there is a 2026 election and the Democrats win at least the House of Representatives. The tighter the control the Republicans get on government, the less the Constitution will matter. The 2028 presidential election may not adhere to the Constitution.
I also see Trump continuing to degrade mentally. This may be why he's talking about not wanting Vance. He doesn't see Vance as a worthy successor, and he knows, but won't admit, that his days are numbered.
Unless Trump dies in office, Vance won't be his successor if Trump can help it.

Moostache

(10,474 posts)
4. An obese 78-year old man with THAT golf swing?
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:36 AM
Thursday

He does not need to worry about anything because he is already living on borrowed time. I don't care if HE thinks he is a paragon of health and virility, he truth is readily apparent in the skin tone under the paint, the missing hair under the toupee and the utterly laughable suits he wears.

He won't need a successor because he is unlikely to be alive in 2028 anyway...

Aristus

(69,811 posts)
15. I thought he might die during his first term.
Thu May 1, 2025, 03:44 PM
Thursday

Or certainly during the Joe Biden interregnum. And yet, here we are...

Johnny2X2X

(22,807 posts)
5. Think of how far down the hole we are after just 100 days
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:42 AM
Thursday

We have an administration who is disappearing anyone they claim is a criminal with no judicial oversight. They took over the entire federal government with no oversight of Congress. They claim to have absolute power over everything and are ignoring it when the courts try to intervene. They have destroyed our economy and our relationships with our allies.

At this rate, the country won't be recogniczable in another year.

elocs

(24,184 posts)
10. The US will never be the same again. We've lost all faith & trust in nations once our allies.
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:12 PM
Thursday

And those countries rightly blame our electorate because in 20 years from now another Trump could be elected again unless we on the Left remain vigilant.

Mountainguy

(1,768 posts)
6. Hes not going to endorse anyone
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:44 AM
Thursday

For 2028 until he gets the best offer. Art of the deal and all.

I'm serious, he's not going to give it away. He's going to extract the highest dollar offer to back somebody

Ping Tung

(2,261 posts)
11. Trump sees Vance as a badly trained foot stool. Just as he sees most people.
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:21 PM
Thursday

Last edited Thu May 1, 2025, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Initech

(104,623 posts)
13. The MAGA movement dies when he does.
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:40 PM
Thursday

The GOP only ran him because they have nobody else that has his star power.

Polybius

(19,839 posts)
14. "Trump is not the forgiving type"
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:42 PM
Thursday

I disagree with that statement. Many Republicans have blasted Trump in the past. He forgave all of them as long as they support him now. Many in high-level cabinet positions.

Retrograde

(11,073 posts)
16. Probably thinks he can fire him
Thu May 1, 2025, 06:25 PM
Thursday

per the Constitution, the vice president can only be removed by resignation, death, or impeachment and conviction. Now, Donnie can ignore his VP, give him an office in the White House subbasement, keep him totally out of the loop on everything, but he can't legally get rid of him. If I remember correctly back to last August, the only reason Vance got to be the VP candidate was that Donnie Jr pushed for him, and Donnie Sr tends to believe the last person he speaks to.

Donnie's convinced himself that he's entitled to run for a 3rd term despite the 22nd amendment and therefore will have no need of a successor.

pinkstarburst

(1,690 posts)
18. My guess is he's planning on Jr
Thu May 1, 2025, 06:50 PM
Thursday

It's all about the grift. My guess is he wants the Trumps to be the new political dynasty like the Kennedys or the Bushes. It's why he was pushing for Eric's wife to be the senator in Florida. He'll probably push for Don Jr. to be up in 2028 is my guess.

hamsterjill

(15,790 posts)
19. Trump intends to be full dictator by the time the next election cycle is here.
Thu May 1, 2025, 06:54 PM
Thursday

He as much as said that on the campaign trail. "You won't ever have to vote again"....

What will actually stop Trump on his quest to be dictator, will be when his handlers (i.e., Putin, et al) don't find him useful any longer. Vance may have been put on the ticket with that in mind. I don't know.

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