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H2O Man

(76,707 posts)
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:02 PM 21 hrs ago

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"It's time for the human race to join the solar system.” – Dan Quayle


I remember a time when Dan Quayle was the least capable person to be vice president of the United States. While riding to the May Day rally today, my friends and I discussed the corrupt and the terrible republicans who in times past inhabited high offices. It almost could be mistaken for “the good old days” when compared to today ….. but it wasn't. Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1 & 2, and Dick Cheney were terrible human beings.

None of them posed as much of a threat to democracy as the current guy, we all agreed, as we found a parking space. At first, it did not appear that many people had showed up. “Maybe that is because we are 45 minutes early,” Sharon suggested. She was correct. People would start showing up like clockwork. We had quite a crowd for such a republican region in rural upstate New York.

I had asked my younger daughter if her work schedule would allow her to drive over to the rally? She said no, but told me to wear the “Mean Girls” tee-shirt she bought me so that I'd have street cred. She said that it would indicate that I'm as cool of a parent as Mrs. George. Three female college students told me they were impressed, despite my wearing pink on a Thursday.

People were lined up on both sides of the main street in the center of the small city. From where I stood, I could see the county courthouse, where in 1964, Robert F. Kennedy handed out tie clips while running for Senate. I had left mine at home, though the memory reminded me that every generation must fight the Good Fight if we are to form a more perfect union.

Suddenly a small car pulled over, uncomfortable close to two of my friends. “Main street” is actually a state highway, with four lanes where we all were. The driver had his window unrolled, and began yelling mean and terrible things at us. “You all look like fucking grandmothers!” he shrieked in my general direction, our eyes meeting. This was one of those times when I had no quick comeback …... I don't think I look like anyone's grandmother ….... so all I came up with was, “I love you” before he sped off.

As we would be there for two hours, I walked around on both sides of the street. I encountered some old friends: the midwife who delivered both of my daughters, the psychiatrist from the mental health clinic where I used to work, a university professor, school teachers, and an archaeologist from a firm that Chief Waterman and I used to deal with. I had a blast talking with them.

More, there were four individuals who are running for local offices this year. Although the rally was not a Democratic Party event, and attracted a wide range of voters, each of these four is running as a Democrat. In our area, a Democrat cannot win an election without independent voters' support. I will be working with at least three of these four campaigns.

I grew tired, as is the nature of old men at a lively rally. Thus, I opted to sit on one of the park benches. I recognized the lady sitting next to me, so I began singing (as best I could) the song “Riders on the Storm.” It took but a second until she recognized me, and gave me a hug while laughing. Fifty years ago, she had picked up up hitch-hiking, and each of the approximate six times I had encountered her since, she had laughed about that ride. I had assumed that I must have been running my mouth, perhaps due to the massive quantity of LSD I was doing that day, but when I finally worked up the courage to ask her, she had said no, I was absolutely silent, just staring straight ahead. And that she had thought, “Oh, God! Have I picked up Jim Morrison?”

Suddenly, without warning, an unidentified woman quickly approached me, pointing, and said, “I know who you are! You are Cassius's grandfather!” Another woman I don't know said, “Oh my god! Cassius is so cute!” about my 2.5 year old grandson. The lady who gave me the ride long before asked if he was named for Cassius Clay? I explained the traditional Irish name pattern for my second son, which resulted in Cassius Ray per two of his ancestors.

Eventually, the two hours was almost up, and people were leaving. We were among the very last to go. Looking at the main street/highway, I thought about how in 1960, my cousin ran the local Democratic Party headquarters, when John F. Kennedy was running for president. How six weekends in a row, as he drove into the city on that very street, he was pulled over and ticketed by police who told him, “We don't want your type here.” They were the only six tickets he ever got in many decades of driving.

To me, this is the real America. And I remember my late friend Rubin's saying, in 1975, that democracy means constant struggle. And the rally illustrates how we will kick the stuffing out of the maga republicans in 2026.

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Fetch (Original Post) H2O Man 21 hrs ago OP
You had a great time malaise 20 hrs ago #1
Thanks! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #2
I agree 100% malaise 20 hrs ago #3
As dark as things are Keepthesoulalive 20 hrs ago #4
Right! H2O Man 18 hrs ago #6
I do love history, but sometimes, the dry history of the classrooms doesn't come close to the rich histories that SWBTATTReg 19 hrs ago #5
Thank you! H2O Man 18 hrs ago #8
Horse Latitudes Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #7
Exactly! H2O Man 18 hrs ago #10
Thank you. Made me look up something I've heard but not understood. erronis 18 hrs ago #13
Morrison wrote that H2O Man 14 hrs ago #15
Love your compelling story, H2O Man. Thank you so much for taking the time to write and to share it. wordstroken 18 hrs ago #9
Thank you! H2O Man 18 hrs ago #12
The human spirit is alive and well Martin Eden 18 hrs ago #11
Nice! H2O Man 18 hrs ago #14
...K&R... spanone 14 hrs ago #16
Thank you! H2O Man 13 hrs ago #17
What an uplifting day!! Saoirse9 11 hrs ago #18
Thank you! H2O Man 11 hrs ago #19

H2O Man

(76,707 posts)
2. Thanks!
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:27 PM
20 hrs ago

I think that Democrats should have fun and laughter. Obviously, we are confronted with a most serious threat. People are suffering. Yet in traditional Irish culture, only love songs are sad, while war songs are upbeat and happy.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,233 posts)
4. As dark as things are
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:48 PM
20 hrs ago

I’m glad to see people getting involved, going outside of traditional media to socialize and try to make change. The American people have been complacent, now they are beginning to wake up and see that we are the ones that will have to fight to take back our country.

H2O Man

(76,707 posts)
6. Right!
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:21 PM
18 hrs ago

I like to compare the number and nature of those beeping their horns as they drive by, with the number and nature of those who wave their middle fingers, etc. An encouraging number of individuals beeped in support. I only saw five fingers, the one fellow who stopped to yell, and one guy in a large truck with a noisy engine that blew black smoke.

SWBTATTReg

(25,214 posts)
5. I do love history, but sometimes, the dry history of the classrooms doesn't come close to the rich histories that
Fri May 2, 2025, 03:52 PM
19 hrs ago

people like you and others present. I gain far more into the personal perspective of history back in those days and I love it!

Thank you for your 'history lesson'!!

H2O Man

(76,707 posts)
8. Thank you!
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:41 PM
18 hrs ago

It was so good to see an increasing number of young adults there yesterday. There were also little children who will know in the future that they were witnessing history!

Kid Berwyn

(20,186 posts)
7. Horse Latitudes
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:34 PM
18 hrs ago


When the still sea conspires an armor
And her sullen and aborted currents
Breed tiny monsters
True sailing is dead!

Awkward instant
And the first animal is jettisoned
Legs furiously pumping
Their stiff green gallop
And heads bob up
Poise
Delicate
Pause
Consent
In mute nostril agony
Carefully refined
And sealed over



Things really changed after Eisenhower, for some corrupt reasons.

H2O Man

(76,707 posts)
10. Exactly!
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:48 PM
18 hrs ago

As you well know, there have been some horrible human beings, both in and around the White House, in our life-times. Yet, the most common things that people my age say when we talk politics is, "How did this happen?"

Looking back to two of my mentors, I think of Rubin's saying that one must understand "why?" before they can fully understand "how," and of Chief Waterman's saying that there are times when things must get "so bad," in order for "so good" to follow.

wordstroken

(1,111 posts)
9. Love your compelling story, H2O Man. Thank you so much for taking the time to write and to share it.
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:45 PM
18 hrs ago

Heartwarming to hear how you reconnected with so many of your friends with the same “real American“ goals.


🦋 wordstroken

H2O Man

(76,707 posts)
12. Thank you!
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:54 PM
18 hrs ago

Back in 1992, when I worked at the mental health clinic, my co-workers frequently talked about their hopes that Bill Clinton would beat Bush the Elder. So I suggested that we do our part to make sure he did. So a couple evenings per week, early on, we went door-to-door campaigning and registering voters. Once the time to register passed, we went door-to-door campaigning. None of my co-workers had ever done this before, including my friend the psychiatrist. But I see her at these rallies decades later!

Martin Eden

(14,206 posts)
11. The human spirit is alive and well
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:51 PM
18 hrs ago

Every now and then I know it's kinda hard to tell
But it's still alive and well.
(I'm sure Johnny Winter wouldn't mind me copping his lyrics)

I've been to three rally rallies in the last four weeks. In the people there I find a source of encouragement, energy, and hope.

The spirit of community builds common bonds which can grow to many millions of human beings working together for common goals.

Therein lies power, of the good kind.

H2O Man

(76,707 posts)
14. Nice!
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:12 PM
18 hrs ago

I think Johnny is pleased that you used his lyrics! No one wants to be forgotten.

It is absolutely the good kind of power. It was great to see in a county where most voters are registered independents, followed closely by republicans, and then Democrats. Now, I can't say if there were any republicans there, though I know some in our area now regret their voting for the felon. But I can say there were lots of independents and Democrats there, and that will translate to more active support for the four Democrats there who are running for office. It was a gathering of the type of people who will go door to door, and to make phone calls, as they volunteer with campaigns.

Saoirse9

(3,860 posts)
18. What an uplifting day!!
Fri May 2, 2025, 11:28 PM
11 hrs ago

I am thrilled you got to see so many old friends and had such a good time.

I sometimes think of protest rallies as a drudge but they can also be tremendous fun.

Happy May Day (belated) to Cassius’ grandpa.

H2O Man

(76,707 posts)
19. Thank you!
Fri May 2, 2025, 11:51 PM
11 hrs ago

Most of the rallies and demonstrations I've attended over many decades have been fun. A couple, not so much. It's nice that a couple of my friends and I have many decades of working together on social-political issues. I'll be speaking at a number of venues this summer, including rallies.

It's funny: my friends and I remember a time when we attended demonstrations, we were "the young people." Now we are the old people! Thinking changes. I look at the fools giving us the finger, etc, and think that they have no idea the upset soon coming to their daily lives. Store shelves will empty, truck drivers and others will be out of work, and more.

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