Hate to say this, but when it comes to the Middle East it is time for China and Russia to get more directly involved.

[ShadesOfBlue]

It may be the only way to keep some sort of balance because the USA is causing great imbalance on behest of Israel. And I think this despite hating Putin.

[Renew Deal]

1. Russia is a bad friend

What have they done to defend their ally and weapon supplier? Nothing

[newdeal2]

3. They got what they wanted

They now produce the Shahed drones. No need for Iran anymore.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

2. No, it's not.

That is all.

[SSJVegeta]

8. I am interested in hearing more about why you think that is?

This whole thing is insane to me.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. See post #10. nt

[Johonny]

4. They are involved

They spent 20 years in Afghanistan before we did. Parts of the idle east just freed themselves from soviet rule. Meanwhile, China is committing genocide on its western border.

I don't think peace is coming from them.

[madville]

10. China's slave/child labor camps in Africa

Everyone likes to conveniently forget where all these minerals are coming from for all these Chinese EV batteries.

China and Russia won’t make anything better, they’ll just exploit it in different ways.

[hlthe2b]

5. Putin is clearly involved and benefits fully from any damage to Iranian oil production--among other things.

[marble falls]

6. Right. Because all the outside countries already involved with the Middle East since WWI haven't fucked it up ...

... enough already. Because Israel, which has a nuclear arsenal of around 250 weapons (4th or 5th largest nuclear power in the world), a premier military and large, sophisticated air force, and a secret service which regularly murders all around the world, including in Arab and Moslem countries, is on the ropes.

[brush]

7. Agreed something has to be done to stop out-of-contol warmonger, war criminal Netanyahu.

Bring in Xi/China as an honest broker maybe because we, the US, certainly isn't. Not Putin though. He needs to be defeated in the Ukraine war.

[LexVegas]

9. Jesus Fucking Christ. nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

12. IKR?

This thread has to be one of the most ridiculous ones yet today, but the day is still young.

[Mountainguy]

16. It's like they have never heard of Syria

Or Chechnya, or Afghanistan....

And China? Ummm.....Uyghurs anyone?

[Dreamer Tatum]

13. Next time you hate to say something, try not saying it.

might help.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

15. LOL.

[sarisataka]

17. Maybe Putin can send Wagner Group through Syria

And China could field test the J-30 fighters
Would that be direct enough?