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AStern

(464 posts)
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:03 PM Jun 18

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) AStern Jun 18 OP
Cowards.... FarPoint Jun 18 #1
Where? 26 Federal Plaza? Sanity Claws Jun 18 #2
Yes. AStern Jun 18 #4
This shit is so fucking depressing Beaverhausen Jun 18 #3
Packed colon Traildogbob Jun 18 #5
"allow"? stillcool Jun 18 #6
They're allowed to see for themselves Joyce works for them. Not the other way around AStern Jun 18 #7
But you didn't answer the question. thucythucy Jun 18 #8
Walk past him. If he grabs them have him arrested. AStern Jun 18 #10
maybe because they don't see any access stopdiggin Jun 18 #9
Well Joyce did make them look weak - so they let him win. AStern Jun 18 #11
your supposition, your assumption stillcool Jun 18 #15
Joyce's fat ass is still smirking AStern Jun 18 #16
again - several people have asked you - and you have yet to answer stopdiggin Jun 18 #17
I answered the question. Sounds like you couldn't care less that ICE is getting away with EVERYTHING AStern Jun 18 #19
Your word is "allow" stillcool Jun 18 #12
I answered above. AStern Jun 18 #14
your word, your presumption, your assumption stillcool Jun 18 #20
What would you do? Are you okay with those assholes just getting away with everything? AStern Jun 18 #22
no. you're constructing a narrative - based on, and only allowed stopdiggin Jun 18 #23
Getting into a fight in the hall is better than not doing anything about it. AStern Jun 18 #24
Agree with you here: the OP is weirdly finding a way to blame Democrats for this Prairie Gates Jun 18 #18
So ICE's actions are okay? AStern Jun 18 #21
I'm pretty comfortable with the pushback you've received here Prairie Gates Jun 18 #25
On blysky someone pointed out MagickMuffin Jun 18 #13

FarPoint

(14,128 posts)
1. Cowards....
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:11 PM
Jun 18

They better have a back up plan then....

Sanity Claws

(22,222 posts)
2. Where? 26 Federal Plaza?
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jun 18

That's where the immigration court is.

AStern

(464 posts)
4. Yes.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:16 PM
Jun 18

A day after Comptroller Brad Lander's arrest, Congress members Dan Goldman and Jerry Nadler at 26 Federal Plaza now attempting to visit ICE detention floor to see conditions there, they plan to visit immigration court also.

Gwynne Hogan (@gwynnefitz.bsky.social) 2025-06-18T14:30:13.398Z

Beaverhausen

(24,642 posts)
3. This shit is so fucking depressing
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:15 PM
Jun 18

That fat fuck with his stupid smirk and what the fuck is he wearing?

What is happening to us? How can we stop this?

Traildogbob

(11,569 posts)
5. Packed colon
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:17 PM
Jun 18

White boy says what? How is it I could pick him out of any size crowd and know he is with ICE and the trump cult.
Supremacy white genetic quality there.

stillcool

(34,386 posts)
6. "allow"?
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jun 18

what would you do? Shoot your way in?

AStern

(464 posts)
7. They're allowed to see for themselves Joyce works for them. Not the other way around
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:19 PM
Jun 18

Still find that hilarious?

thucythucy

(8,940 posts)
8. But you didn't answer the question.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:27 PM
Jun 18

What would you do? Shove the guy aside? Punch him out if he doesn't move?

I'm geninely curious: what would you do in this situation? How would you force your way in?

AStern

(464 posts)
10. Walk past him. If he grabs them have him arrested.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jun 18

But I would have brought LE with me. Unlike Nadler and Goldman.

stopdiggin

(14,101 posts)
9. maybe because they don't see any access
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jun 18

forthcoming - short of trying to 'fight' their way through?
How do you feel about being taken to the ground? This is not 'cowardice' - so much as it is 'adults' exercising common sense.

You prefer the 'performative' stuff - complete with body slams?

AStern

(464 posts)
11. Well Joyce did make them look weak - so they let him win.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:31 PM
Jun 18

nt

stillcool

(34,386 posts)
15. your supposition, your assumption
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:34 PM
Jun 18

your view of Democratic Senators.

AStern

(464 posts)
16. Joyce's fat ass is still smirking
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:36 PM
Jun 18

and those people are still detained in horrifying conditions no doubt.

stopdiggin

(14,101 posts)
17. again - several people have asked you - and you have yet to answer
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:36 PM
Jun 18

you think they should have gotten physical? Bring up the fists and start swinging?
(doesn't get much mileage with this observer)

AStern

(464 posts)
19. I answered the question. Sounds like you couldn't care less that ICE is getting away with EVERYTHING
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jun 18

NT

stillcool

(34,386 posts)
12. Your word is "allow"
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:32 PM
Jun 18

that was not in the video you posted. Since it's your supposition that they 'allowed' themselves to be denied entry, what would "you" do?

AStern

(464 posts)
14. I answered above.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jun 18

Joyce is still smirking and will likely suffer nothing for it.

stillcool

(34,386 posts)
20. your word, your presumption, your assumption
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jun 18

based on nothing but you. All by yourself.

AStern

(464 posts)
22. What would you do? Are you okay with those assholes just getting away with everything?
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jun 18

nt

stopdiggin

(14,101 posts)
23. no. you're constructing a narrative - based on, and only allowed
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jun 18

to proceed along, your suppositions. And a number of posters are calling you on it.

The reps had no access. You don't surmount that problem by getting into a fight in a hallway.

AStern

(464 posts)
24. Getting into a fight in the hall is better than not doing anything about it.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:45 PM
Jun 18

nt

Prairie Gates

(5,732 posts)
18. Agree with you here: the OP is weirdly finding a way to blame Democrats for this
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jun 18

Bizarre beyond words.

AStern

(464 posts)
21. So ICE's actions are okay?
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jun 18

That's what it sounds like to me.

Prairie Gates

(5,732 posts)
25. I'm pretty comfortable with the pushback you've received here
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:46 PM
Jun 18

And I think anybody reading this thread now will have a pretty good idea of what you mean with your rhetorical choices in the OP. So you go ahead and have a nice day. I've wasted enough time addressing it.

MagickMuffin

(17,834 posts)
13. On blysky someone pointed out
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:32 PM
Jun 18

He’s wearing a knockoff Guinness beer shirt. There’s a pic at the link.

These are the people representing our country. SLOBS one and all.








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