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mopinko

(72,791 posts)
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 09:21 AM Jul 15

so, who's being blackmailed? that's the important question here.

so many times we’ve wondered what makes so many formerly ‘sane’ rethuglicans kowtow to the mango menace. threats of physical violence r rampant now, but in his 1st term, we were in a different place.
the combo of blackmail and bribery has been tsf’s m.o. forever. david pecker was his accomplice back in nyc. he had a safe full of stories that he ‘caught and killed’ on the movers and shakers in town. they probably targeted many w honey pots. the contents of his safe went missing when he quit the enquirer. they didnt evaporate.
likewise, putler is known to surveil ppl, sending prostitutes to visitors to moscow and recording them. and to send the likes of maria butino to american pols, nra laundered cash in hand.

we’ve speculated much about what happened to lindsey graham, and generally agree that he has something on him that is worse than his obvious sexual orientation.
even tho slobby and jeffy had broken up long b4 he died, no doubt he knows many prominent ppl who had been partying w the sicko. and what happened to the contents of jeffy’s safe? michael wolf says he had polaroids of mango that he showed him. no doubt there were more. the fbi emptied that safe under sicko’s watch. no 1 knows where they went.

the only dems i can think of that bent the knee were sinemanchin. but the entire gqp has bent the knee.
imho, they werent afraid of a mean tweet. they were afraid of the pics. and now they’re shaking in their boots.
and that’s y they r voting to keep it all dark.

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so, who's being blackmailed? that's the important question here. (Original Post) mopinko Jul 15 OP
I disagree. Bill Barr knows where all of that johnnyfins Jul 15 #1
entirely possible. mopinko Jul 15 #2
I imagine: The party itself, led by McConnell, has so much Russian and NRA baggage that the wiggs Jul 15 #3
So many that one might better ask "Who ISN'T being blackmailed?" usonian Jul 16 #4
It's Always Been About Leverage, Not Loyalty nick william Jul 16 #5
i just picked on lindsey cuz it's so obvious. mopinko Jul 16 #7
Mr. Wolf says H2O Man Jul 16 #6
Three nation-states notorious for government-sponsored crime... pecosbob Jul 16 #8

johnnyfins

(2,466 posts)
1. I disagree. Bill Barr knows where all of that
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jul 15

Epstein stuff went. I wouldnt be surprised if Barr still has some of it. You know, sentimental reasons...

wiggs

(8,305 posts)
3. I imagine: The party itself, led by McConnell, has so much Russian and NRA baggage that the
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:00 AM
Jul 15

current GOP believe they are fighting for survival of the party. Win at all costs because exposure means extinction.

?

usonian

(19,213 posts)
4. So many that one might better ask "Who ISN'T being blackmailed?"
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 01:48 AM
Jul 16

Try to tell me that these complete zombie bullshit legislative, executive and judicial brances are anything but some dystopian nightmare either from Neal Stephenson, Fyodor Dostoevsky, Paddy Chayefsky or Franz Kafka.

I hope they all settle it "like men"

nick william

(2 posts)
5. It's Always Been About Leverage, Not Loyalty
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 01:53 AM
Jul 16

You’re absolutely right to point the spotlight on blackmail and leverage—because that’s the throughline connecting all the confusion around GOP loyalty to Trump. It’s not just ideology. It’s not just fear of mean tweets. It’s the quiet terror of being exposed.

Trump and Epstein operated in parallel worlds of access, secrets, and control. Epstein used sex and status to trap people; Trump, with help from figures like David Pecker, hoarded dirt on the powerful like currency. That National Enquirer "safe" of stories didn’t vanish—it just found a new owner or got split among those who know how to use silence as a tool.

As for Epstein’s own files—let’s be real: if that safe held names, dates, and images (and we have every reason to believe it did), then someone, somewhere, is holding them now. And they’re not using them for justice—they’re using them for influence. Who gets indicted, who doesn’t. Who speaks out, who stays quiet. Who votes their conscience, and who folds like paper.

Putin’s playbook is the same. Surveillance, honeytraps, kompromat. And it’s not far-fetched to think Trump, a man obsessed with dominance and loyalty, admired and adopted those tactics long before 2016.

Lindsey Graham’s sudden transformation isn’t unique. The entire GOP shift—from skepticism to sycophancy—can’t be explained by political strategy alone. Something happened. And it wasn’t just an epiphany about tariffs or tax cuts. It was pressure, plain and simple. It’s not that they like Trump—it’s that they fear whoever’s holding the files.

The push to suppress the Epstein files isn’t about protecting victims—it’s about shielding the powerful. The fear isn’t about public outrage—it’s about losing control of a narrative built on threats, secrets, and silence.

Until the full Epstein case is exposed—not just to prosecutors, but to the public—we’re not dealing with a justice system. We’re dealing with a protection racket.

mopinko

(72,791 posts)
7. i just picked on lindsey cuz it's so obvious.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 09:44 AM
Jul 16

govt by kompromat. it has to come out. all of it.

H2O Man

(77,391 posts)
6. Mr. Wolf says
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 02:42 AM
Jul 16

he saw two photographs of the felon poolside, on the island, with two topless underaged girls sitting on his lap. There is a reason that Rep. Jamie Raskin is working so hard on this. Keep in mind that he connected, when talking to the press, with part two of Jack Smith's report -- which focuses on the felon's stealing classified documents. I am confident that he knows that several have to do with Epstein's connections with the felon.

pecosbob

(8,038 posts)
8. Three nation-states notorious for government-sponsored crime...
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jul 16

1) Crypto...North Korea

2) Spyware...China

3) Extortion...Russia

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