Don't kid yourself. This is the REAL reason Democrats lost 2024

[jmowreader]

Well, two: Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt, or FUD; and four years of Lies.

Trump, his inner circle, and an extremely Trump-friendly media - not just traditional media outlets like Fox News, One America News Network and the Epoch Times, but an extensive network of far-right Internet personalities - spent every second from Election Day 2020 to Election Day 2024 selling the notion that if we elected anyone but Trump your life would become a country song: you'd lose your job, your house, your truck and your guns, the only place you would be able to get food is from one of the taco trucks on every corner, your sons would all become drag queens, your daughters would all be drafted into the infantry and sent to war where they'd all die because Girls Can't Be Warriors, your dog would start shooting up fentanyl and your cat would transition into a rabbit. Or some damn thing like that. Oh, and Biden was so demented he'd sign over the entire country to the President of Lower East Goatfuck for another scoop of ice cream.

Guess what, folks? IT WORKED! It was almost like a Marx Brothers sketch...

RW: "The stock market is collapsing."
America: "Actually, the stock market is higher than it's ever been."

RW: "Biden is a doddering old fool."
America: "He's a lot sharper than guys twenty years younger than him. He's definitely sharper than Trump was."

RW: "Biden is causing the deficit to explode."
America: "The deficit is half what it was when Trump left office."

RW: "Illegals are storming our nation and Biden is doing nothing to stop them."
America: "Biden has expelled far more illegals than Trump did."

RW: "Who are you going to believe, me or your own lying eyes?"
America: "Well, since you put it that way...yeah, Biden was totally ate up. You got any of those hats left?"

All these analyses of "why the Democrats lost" that I keep reading totally leave out the fact that the Republicans spent four years putting their fifty-pound thumb on the scale in an effort to put Trump back in office.

[WarGamer]

1. Don't forget "LibsOfTikTok"

In a nutshell... the Right created a caricature of the Left that "stuck"...

Never let your enemy define you.

[jmowreader]

2. Libs of TikTok is part of the Internet mob

[Initech]

3. Libsoftiktok is a troll who was at January 6th and makes a living doxxing and harassing teachers for fun.

[Arazi]

4. Any explanation that doesn't mention racism and sexism is flawed imo

[senseandsensibility]

5. I agree with the OP

and with you. Sexism and racism made it easier to do what is detailed in the OP. Agism also made it easier to sell a caricature of Biden.

[Scrivener7]

6. I would say the attitudes listed in the OP are covers for sexism and racism. I think many

Taco voters knew full well these things weren't true, but they were great excuses to trot out when you can't say, "I want women and brown people back under the white man's thumb."

[BurnDoubt]

7. (Touching Nose With Forefinger.)

[paleotn]

13. You have them, dead to rights.

[synni]

21. So Obama isn't an African American?

He won 2 terms. Race isn't the issue.

Sexism? I'll get to that in a moment.

But historically, it's rare that any vice president gets elected...and all but one of those vice presidents have been men.

The problem is that the Democrats ignored the fact that the American people were struggling economically. I had been selling online for more than 20 years, and my sales on every platform dried up completely in 2022. Regular customers who stopped buying were telling me that they simply couldn't afford to buy anything that was non-essential.

I, myself, was in huge financial trouble, when my pandemic stimulus savings ran out. I was hitting up community organizations and churches, just to keep my utilities from being shut off. Those resources were reporting much higher numbers of people seeking help...it wasn't just me. Food banks were being stretched to the limit, as well.

I was just VERY lucky that I was finally accepted for disability. I was on the verge of losing my home.

I don't care how many statistics told us that Wall Street was doing fine in 2024. John and Jane Doe we're struggling, and they wanted to hear what the candidates were going to do to change that.

Did Trump lie about how he would help the economy? OF COURSE! But when a liar pretends to be sympathetic, while the honest person ignores the problem...people are going to believe the liar.

Bill Clinton won by saying, "I feel your pain." Kamala Harris lost by acting as if people weren't even in pain. Of course she was right about Trump being a threat to democracy, but not enough people realized that this could ever happen in America. So they were seduced by the lies and the old, flawed reasoning of blaming the current president for the bad economy.

Before you cry sexism, remember that people were turning on Joe Biden before he even dropped out of the race.

Joe Biden is not a woman, and he certainly isn't African-American.

The problem was, our party kept hyping how "great" our economy was under Biden, while people couldn't find jobs, couldn't pay their rent/mortgage or utilities.

Another big blow to Biden was when he caved, and allowed the GOP to impose insane work requirements on SNAP beneficiaries. In my state, the work age was raised from 45 to 60...far beyond the measure that was passed.

I was furious. I nearly lost my SNAP when I was disabled and had NO income. Except that I was "lucky" enough to be in treatment for physical and mental disabilities. That excluded me from the work requirement that Joe Biden DID NOT VETO.

Sure, the GOP could have overridden the veto. But Biden should have resisted that work requirement change until the end! Show the public that you may have lost, but you fought for them!

I still voted for his VP (Kamala), but people remember such betrayals. Yes, I know Trump was hell-bent on making the SNAP program worse, but remember what I just wrote about liars?

You don't hold on to Democratic voters by rubber-stamping the worst Republican policies.

I still remember the day I got that letter, threatening to kick me off SNAP because I was only in my 50's. I remember crying, shaking, literally CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE, because Joe Biden folded like a lawn chair when poor people needed him most.

Things like this are why people have lost faith in the Democrats, and why people fall for FILTHY LIARS who tell them what they want to hear.

If we even have free elections anymore, Dems can win back the public by grasping what Bernie Sanders has been saying, and what the party used to understand so well:

It's the economy.

[MichMan]

25. "But historically, it's rare that any vice president gets elected..."

Only one sitting VP since Martin VanBuren in 1836 has won election; George Bush in 1988. One in 188 years.

[yardwork]

27. Technically, Gore won in 2000 but...

Overall, it's a good point. A lot of voters stupidly think it's a good idea to change things up every cycle for no particular reason.

[yardwork]

26. Thank you for sharing your experience here.

You're making a lot of good points. The fact is that we've experienced forty years of the U.S. economy shifting to benefit the already well off, while leaving millions behind.

It's become a cruel system. Democrats can win if we talk about these problems but I fear the DNC leadership doesn't get it.

[bsiebs]

8. Inflation also played a major role...

It spiked close to 8% partially due to corporations seeing an opportunity to jack up prices “due to supply chain issues”. None of this was Bidens doing and, thanks to his amazing ability to get things right, he got it back down to low levels quickly. But people couldn’t forget the higher prices (thanks to corporate media - EGGS!)… and I believe that swayed a lot of unsure voters.

But I agree with all of your points as well.

[progressoid]

9. No big surprise that DJTACO didn't ban TicToc after he got in office.

They own and manipulate the media that they have been brainwashing the voters with.

Then there's Facebook, X, Parlor, Rumble, Telegram, Fox, OANN, AM radio, etc. ad. nauseam.

[usonian]

10. Now hear this.

[guyfromla]

11. Palestine! Palestine!! Palestine!!!

Don't kid yourself. The ONLY reason why we lost in 2024 is our reluctance to come to aid of the oppressed!! And we will continue to lose if we support this genocide....

[murielm99]

14. This thread is not about genocide.

Go away with your buzzwords.

[EdmondDantes_]

31. They put just as much evidence into their claim as the OP did

Why is one buzzwords and the other isn't? I suspect it's because you want to believe one and not the other.

[murielm99]

37. I will accept the U.N. definition of genocide,

not the creeping anti-Semitism I am seeing online. And don't bother splitting hairs about what is anti-Semitic and what is not.

[bottomofthehill]

34. Giving up our democracy has helped the people of Gaza how

The first step was to defend democracy at home and then we can help the world. Those who stayed home or worse voted for other dipshit candidates over Gaza failed us and the world. USAID, State Department food programs, global money for AIDS, war on vaccines all lost because Hamas attacked Israel and Israel over reacted in response, but Hamas knew that would be the response. And the Trump plan is for the U.S. to take over Gaza for his hospitality empire. If Gaza was the reason….wow. We fucked ourselves

[wiggs]

12. Dems fought with honor, honesty, trust, truth. There's a Game of Thrones clip about just that, too

violent to post here. The honorable fighter lost in that scene too.

[Think. Again.]

15. Oh, and vote tabulators uploading through starlink, too, but yeah.

[bottomofthehill]

35. Please remember VP Harris Internal Polls

Never had her winning.

[Think. Again.]

39. Yeah, polls are wrong a lot...

...but uploading election tabulator results through a private, unsecured internet system that can allow for manipulating those results is a different subject.

[speak easy]

16. 2-4% of voters can't imagine a woman President.

That was enough, as it was in 2016 as well.

[Katinfl]

28. Agree. Let alone a woman of color.

[get the red out]

29. Absolutely!!

I have always thought this was a very big factor!!!! The right spews pure misogyny by tradition, now add the men who view the "Alpha Male", woman-hating YouTube creators and there was no way a woman would be elected. Honestly, no offense to Kamala Harris, but I hope the party doesn't push her as the candidate "to be fair". We need REAL primaries.

[In It to Win It]

17. Inflation was a big one

[Skittles]

18. change America replying "undocumented immigrants" instead of "illegals"

"illegals" is what bigots say to dehumanize these folk

[EnergizedLib]

19. Inflation and delusion

President Biden wrongfully got blamed for inflation. Gen Z somehow fell for the BS, Latinos thought they’d be exempt from the cruelty if they voted for him and Muslims in Dearborn somehow thought he’d be better on Gaza.

It looks like Gen Z has woken up. Too little, too late. I just hope we have a country in a few years. This is a damn nightmare.

[mkp]

20. Responsibility

Since Republicans want all branches of government for the "POWER". I suppose Democrats are totally "BLAMELESS" for any and all things that occur no matter what... I don't guess this shit... I know.
So when things go extremely wrong... laugh at them for fucking it up... if by accident something good happens be thankful for them accidently fucking that up also.

[Joinfortmill]

22. Thank you.

[czarjak]

23. "It's rigged, folks."

For the rich too.
The Donald can be correct in rare circumstances.

[flashman13]

24. The biggest factor was that at least 6 million people sat on their ass in 2024 because

they couldn't bring themselves to vote for a highly qualified black woman. Racism and misogyny won the election for Trump!

[FakeNoose]

30. Did they really stay home? Maybe they tried to vote and their votes were suppressed

That's how the Repukes win anymore, by suppressing the votes for their opponents.

[bottomofthehill]

36. Fair point. Many voter lists were purged.

Now is the time to fix that prior to the next cycle. This is why voter registration drives and checking your registration is so important.

[Kaleva]

38. That doesn't explain why turnout in Dem controlled areas was lower

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There were 60 thousand less votes for Harris in Wayne County then there was for Biden on 2020.

Wayne County Mi is metro Detroit. Controlled by Dems. Also, Michigan had a Dem controlled state legislature , state Supreme Court and the governor, SOS and AG were all Dems.

Prior to the 2024 election, Dems in Michigan made it easier to register and to vote. But despite that, turnout for Harris was much less for Harris then it was for Biden.

[Norrrm]

32. Biden worked for our country. Trump is purely in it for himself.

[Norrrm]

33. Voting against their own best interests to stick it to the libs.