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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(128,900 posts)
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 12:53 AM Monday

US must 'universally condemn political violence', Democratic governor Shapiro says

Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro has said Americans must “universally condemn political violence, no matter where it is” after the killing of rightwing youth organizer Charlie Kirk as well as a deadly shootout in Shapiro’s state that left three police officers dead and two others injured.

Hours before Kirk’s funeral, Shapiro said that the nation stands at an “inflection point” and urged Americans to choose shared values over division, pointing to the solidarity shown by Pennsylvanians in the aftermath of the officers’ killings in York county last week.

“I think we’re at an inflection point as a nation, and I think we can go in a number of different ways,” Shapiro told moderator Kristen Welker on NBC News’s Meet the Press. “I hope we go the direction of healing, of bringing people together, of trying to find our commonalities – not just focus on our differences.”

Shapiro told Welker about his own recent experience with political violence: when his gubernatorial mansion was firebombed in April, an act that authorities suspect was carried out by a man unhappy with Shapiro’s support of Israel amid the Israeli war on Gaza.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-must-universally-condemn-political-212520140.html

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Did he happen to point out that the 47 regime is doing the opposite? pat_k Monday #1
You aren't wrong pat.... democratsruletheday Monday #3
I probably overreacted. His was just about... pat_k Monday #5
Right wing Youth Organizer??? rpannier Monday #2
Meh. Sounds like both-siderism n/t leftstreet Monday #4

pat_k

(11,828 posts)
1. Did he happen to point out that the 47 regime is doing the opposite?
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 03:00 AM
Monday

If he didn't call out the fact that the hateful, divisive, incendiary talk is coming from the top -- from 47 and minions of the regime -- then fuck him.

Every Democrat calling for "universal rejection of violence" who does not point out the reality that it is NOT "both sides" who are fomenting division, is propagating a lie. When they speak, there is an implicit assumption they are speaking to "their own people," The corollary to that is that we need to be talked to because we are somehow being "out of line."

I don't think there is a single Democratic elected or leader who HAS NOT universally, repeatedly, and vehemently denounced political violence. So quit talking to "everybody" and talk directly to the ones who ARE OUT OF LINE.

democratsruletheday

(1,580 posts)
3. You aren't wrong pat....
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 08:56 AM
Monday

but you have to try and see Gov. Shapiro's side of it too. He's trying NOT to throw more gas on the fire like Trump and all his MAGA(T)s do every day. That said, I totally disagree with him on Israel and I'd have to say it disqualifies him from being in contention for Dem nomination in '28 because every Dem I KNOW disagrees with him. Just saying.

pat_k

(11,828 posts)
5. I probably overreacted. His was just about...
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 01:09 PM
Monday

...the upteeth similar statement from Democratic electeds that strikes me as wrong-headed because it sounds as if they are talking to "us" Democrats who aren't the ones that have been brainwashed to believe that anyone who doesn't support the Christian Nationalist MAGA agenda are subhuman (from Posobeic), or "animals" or radicals or criminals or whatever else might justify the urge to "wipe them (us) out."

I'm not annoyed by Shapiro, per se. I'm annoyed by calls to turn down the "temperature" from any Democratic leader that don't include a little reality about who is "turning it up" and who superheated "the temperature" the minute they started following fucking Newt Gingrich's playbook. And now MAGA has taken dehumanizing "the other side" to levels that even Gingrich couldn't have imagined way back when.

We need to start recognizing that a vast majority of Americans oppose their shit, and start talking like it.

Our federal election system is so gerrymandered the make up of Congress has nothing to do with the will of the American people.

According to a February 2025 survey from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI), about two-thirds of Americans (66%) oppose Christian nationalism.

The way some of our electeds are talking it sounds to me like they've accepted that we are a majority Christian Nationalist nation and so they feel they need to try to "win over" those people. Give it the f up. There is no appeasing them and a vast majority oppose them!

Sorry for the rant, but sometimes I just want to scream at some* of our Democratic electeds "For Goodness Sake, BE PROUD OF WHO HATES YOU!"**

*I know we have plenty who get it right. But I think the ones who get it wrong stand out to me -- sort of like fingernails on a chalk board.

** A little corollary. If a group hates you and you think they have a point, perhaps rethink what you are doing.


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