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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(130,392 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 05:29 PM Oct 21

Newspapers closing, news deserts growing for beleaguered news industry

Some 136 newspapers in the United States have closed in the past year, news deserts are expanding and web traffic to the nation’s top newspapers has dropped markedly this decade, according to a report issued Monday that struggles to find hope for the beleaguered news industry.

While entrepreneurs are launching digital news sites, often backed by philanthropies, they haven’t sprouted at a rate that makes up for the losses, the report from Northwestern University said.

Taking a step back for an even broader look at the industry is even more troubling. Since 2005, the numbers of newspapers published in the United States has dropped from 7,325 in 2005 to 4,490 now, said the Medill State of Local News report. Daily newspaper circulation that averaged between 50 and 60 million people at the turn of the century now stands at just over 15 million.

An estimated 365,460 people worked at newspapers in 2005, and now that number is down to 91,550, the report said. Two decades ago, 71% of journalists worked at newspapers and now just 29% of the nearly 42,000 working journalists are at newspapers.

https://apnews.com/article/newspapers-closing-media-industry-report-traffic-b0a3a14510ffe104da836d46432c2678

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Newspapers closing, news deserts growing for beleaguered news industry (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 21 OP
Wonder if hatred for media is responsible? Silent Type Oct 21 #1
In one part, yes. SouthBayDem Oct 21 #2
Advertising always provided the bulk of newspaper/magazine revenue - while making people pay for newspapers/magazines Midwestern Democrat Oct 22 #9
Young people don't read newspapers Keepthesoulalive Oct 21 #4
"Who needs to read when you've got TikTok and YouTube...?" regnaD kciN Oct 21 #5
As a 90s kid I still count as "young". SouthBayDem Oct 22 #7
I was a news junkie Keepthesoulalive Oct 22 #8
The state of newspapers and the media ... ificandream Sunday #13
The no kings march Keepthesoulalive Sunday #14
That's a good part of it Oeditpus Rex Oct 21 #6
"tailored for them" explains talk radio or social media influencers SouthBayDem Sunday #11
No. Here's why .... ificandream Sunday #12
Enjoyed reading. The problem I see is that people expect journalists to say "trump is a POS," Silent Type Sunday #15
David Simon, former journalist and creator of HBO's "The Wire", warned in 2009: SouthBayDem Oct 21 #3
GOP says "YAY" BlueWaveNeverEnd Oct 22 #10
I live on a cul de sac with 32 units. MineralMan Sunday #16

SouthBayDem

(32,983 posts)
2. In one part, yes.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 05:59 PM
Oct 21

Another is that people (who are otherwise happy to pay for food, electricity, or car insurance) expect news to be given out for free with someone else (advertisers for instance) paying for the labor.

9. Advertising always provided the bulk of newspaper/magazine revenue - while making people pay for newspapers/magazines
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:38 AM
Oct 22

covered some of the costs, it actually served a more important function - it provided proof to the advertisers of the number of readers - the advertisers knew that if people were paying for it, they were reading it. I suppose in the early days of the internet there had been a false hope that advertising revenue on the internet would be comparable to that historically enjoyed by print media, but it wasn't even close - a glossy cigarette ad on the back cover of Newsweek brought in far more revenue than an internet pop up ad.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,987 posts)
4. Young people don't read newspapers
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 05:59 PM
Oct 21

And supposedly they are not enamored of books. Newspapers have been declining for years and if it’s owned by a conglomerate they don’t do local news.
Then you add perceived and real media bias end game.

SouthBayDem

(32,983 posts)
7. As a 90s kid I still count as "young".
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:23 AM
Oct 22

When Clinton won re-election I was in kindergarten.

My family subscribed to the local newspaper in print until 2008. So I've developed a habit of respecting the printed paper - and when I'm traveling and need offline reading material I'll buy the paper.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,987 posts)
8. I was a news junkie
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:50 AM
Oct 22

The newspapers became smaller fewer stories more sketchy adds. Because of consolidation not much local news. I have moved to a smaller town and our local paper is not fit to wrap fish. I get my news from other sources and my purse loves me. Fortunately or unfortunately our children and some adults are being led and deceived. Critical thinking is a thing of the past.

ificandream

(11,518 posts)
13. The state of newspapers and the media ...
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 08:03 PM
Sunday

>Newspapers have been declining for years and if it’s owned by a conglomerate they don’t do local news.<

Some still do, but the number is shriveling.

>Then you add perceived and real media bias end game.<

I could probably write a book on that, but the media isn't as biased as a lot of people think. There is one exception, though: Fox "news" and its ilk are the biggest pieces of media scum in the world. Especially Murdoch. If Fox was out of the picture, the world would be a whole lot better now. Roger Ailes, I hope you are burning in hell, you m.f.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,987 posts)
14. The no kings march
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 08:10 PM
Sunday

Our race for governor and the other races. I am getting more timely news from Reddit and the dems regularly send updates through email . Weather through the national weather service. We have no local news. I have found ways around the surface news.

 

Oeditpus Rex

(43,094 posts)
6. That's a good part of it
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:17 PM
Oct 21

Last edited Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:16 AM - Edit history (1)

On many social media sites that have a political bent -- including this one ‐- you'll find post after post after post criticing "the media" (Newspapers? TV news? News magazines? What?) for not covering issues the posters think should be covered or not writing them as they think they should be written.

There's nothing the least bit new about this. Customers on my paper route more than 50 years ago complained to me about the paper, as if they thought I could do something about it. And 50 years ago the complaints were already very old and tired.

Editors and reporters get it: Everybody wants a newspaper tailored for them. Thry all think it 's an easy job that they could do better, or just as well.snd they want a lot fewer ads.

These complaints were par for the course before political social media multiplied the fuck out of them. Circulation dropped significantly, and when that happens, publishers panic and do exactly the wrong things: lay off news saff, making coverage skimpier; raise subscription and newsstand prices; raise ad rates while telling ad reps to bring in more customers. And, when none of that works, sell out to a cobglomerate that turns, say, five formerly local papers in a 50-mile radius into "McNews," ach with two or three local stories in each issue and the rest of them carbon copies of one another. In short, they save "the product" by destroying it. (They always referred to the paper as "the product" because they were no longer newspaper people, but garden-variety CEOs.)

I was one of the editors who got fired, then watched helplessly as the rest of it happened. It happened because you were never satisfied with what we offered, and the suits couldn't think of another remedy for their losses than to offer you less.

SouthBayDem

(32,983 posts)
11. "tailored for them" explains talk radio or social media influencers
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 07:39 PM
Sunday

People could more easily interact with Rush Limbaugh, Tim Pool, or other "news with opinion added" hosts than a Jim Lehrer or Peter Jennings. Subsequently, the Limbaugh or Pool tells the audience what they want to hear.

ificandream

(11,518 posts)
12. No. Here's why ....
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 07:59 PM
Sunday

Back in 2005, as the post said, there were 365,000 people working at newspapers. I was one of them. When newspapers were sufficiently staffed, you had reporters, a lot of them veteran reporters, who knew how to write and report and editors who knew how to follow through on editing, writing headlines and managing content. Since then, with the numbers down so far (the story says only 29 percent of journalists (many of them inexperienced) are at papers today), newspapers are woefully short staffed. The aggressive reporting has shriveled.

Much of the criticism directed at the media today is because of the inexperience. Though some papers still do the time-honored journalism practices, many falter. Many so-called "pundits" are nothing more than clickbaiters who steal the stories of others and rewrite them without giving credit.

But some of the criticism is just bickering at the media because it seems the thing to do. And to top it off, you now have a president (lower case for that idiot) who hates the media and loves nothing more than spreading that distrust in hopes that those not familiar with the workings of the media will join the rabble rousers.

If the media today was as good as it was 30 years ago, you'd have more reporters digging for the corruption of this administration. A lot of people point to reporting veterans like Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather (who's still with us) as the type of reporting they'd like to see now. So would I. And there are good reporters out there. The NY Times reporting staff does a good job, for one. As do Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell and Ali Velshi on MSNBC. And there are more.

The best thing we as individuals can do is support your local papers. It's there that big things start. Democracy dies in darkness isn't just an empty meme.

Silent Type

(11,726 posts)
15. Enjoyed reading. The problem I see is that people expect journalists to say "trump is a POS,"
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 08:39 PM
Sunday

rather than just reporting on the chit he does that makes him a POS.

Readers aren’t that stupid, they don’t need to be told the obvious, some voters just don’t care or admire trump’s crud.

The media— except for likes of FOX — are doing their job. It’s society, education, religion, families, etc., not doing their job. Maybe even politicians aren’t doing it either.

We are going to miss newspapers. I grew up getting 2 newspapers a day, morning and evening.

Anyway, thanks for comments

SouthBayDem

(32,983 posts)
3. David Simon, former journalist and creator of HBO's "The Wire", warned in 2009:
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 05:59 PM
Oct 21
Content matters. And you must find a way, in the brave new world of digitization, to make people pay for that content. If you do this, you still have a product and there is still an industry, a calling, and a career known as professional journalism. If you do not find a way to make people pay for your product, then you are—if you choose to remain in this line of work—delusional.

I know that content wants to be free on the Internet. I know that the horse was long ago shown the barn door and that, belatedly, the idea of creating a new revenue stream from online subscriptions seems daunting and dangerous. I know that commentary—the froth and foam of print journalism—sells itself cheaply and well on thousands of blogs. I know that the relationships between newspapers and online aggregators—not to mention The Associated Press and Reuters—will have to be revisited and revised. True, all true.


From an essay "Build the Wall", in the July/Aug. 2009 Columbia Journalism Review.

MineralMan

(150,072 posts)
16. I live on a cul de sac with 32 units.
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 08:46 PM
Sunday

I am the only subscriber to a daily paper. Minneapolis Star Tribune. That's why.

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