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"The failure of SNAP payments symbolizes a deeper national sickness: a society that has never fully committed to economic justice because it has never fully confronted the roots of inequality.Feeding the poor is not charityit is a test of civilization."
That last line sums it up perfectly.
wendyb-NC
(4,512 posts)It is the truth.
And for all those Trump supporting Christians, this is something that reinforces the teachings of Jesus (the parts of the bible that they conveniently ignore).
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BurnDoubt
(1,181 posts)Haggard Celine
(17,521 posts)wonder how you manage to make ends meet. Looks like Lady Madonna is going to have an even harder time making ends meet.
BurnDoubt
(1,181 posts)FakeNoose
(39,213 posts)SNAP payments were working, they were doing their job efficiently and well.
The Chump administration has cancelled them without any authority or legal mandate to do so. It's just one more presidential failure and proof of negligence on his part.
On top of all this, the cancellation of SNAP is very bad for our economy, as well as for the children and families who are being denied the benefits. Even if he doesn't care about "poor hungry children," Chump had better care about the American merchants and grocers who have the legal and economic power to fight this. He ignores them at his own peril.
KS Toronado
(21,783 posts)it hurts our economy, wish more voting Rs understood this.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,123 posts)It is part of his cabal's deliberate,planned intentional destruction of our country.
I no longer think of trump being the key behind these months of destruction of our system.
He's just the dimwitted puppet figurehead.
FakeNoose
(39,213 posts)PatSeg
(51,358 posts)SNAP is a highly successful program that serves the community, farmers, and the economy as well as individual families.
This was not only cruel, it was exceedingly stupid.
tblue37
(67,522 posts)progressoid
(52,240 posts)*depending on your definition of civilization.
Bernardo de La Paz
(59,938 posts)41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)and actually most of the new testament. They like the violence and cruelty of the old testament, especially the eye-for-an-eye parts.
Bernardo de La Paz
(59,938 posts)PatSeg
(51,358 posts)to a whole new level. They just cherry-pick the parts that fit their prejudices and then proclaim, "But the bible says".
One Baptist minister who opposed alcohol consumption told me Jesus never drank wine. It was really fruit juice. Well, imagine that! Where they don't like what the bible says, they put it down to a bad translation, but everything else is the word of god. By the time I was done with the guy, he left quite unsettled, probably sure he'd entered the devil's lair. I guess I must have gotten tagged 'heathen' and 'unconvertable' as he never returned.
One thing you can say about Jesus, whether he was a real person or not, is he was very clear in his message. There is no reading between the lines. Hence we rarely hear fundamentalists quoting the new testament, though they do and say a whole lot in the name Jesus.
progressoid
(52,240 posts)It was one of my faves to to use when I used to spar with them. It often ended with them finding a different verse to counter like "get your house in order" (Isaiah 38:1) Or they'd simply shut down the conversation.
KS Toronado
(21,783 posts)"Feeding the poor is not charityit is a test of civilization."
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)I may change my tagline to it.
rustbeltvoice
(471 posts)Feeding the hungry is not charity, it is justice. It is recognising the dignity of the person, food is necessary for life. Denying people food is anti-life, and cruel, it is sinful, and evil. In America people who work at low paying jobs qualify for governmental food aid, because the employers are being in effect subsidised. Some get aid, because they are ill, sick, shut-in, aged, and others are children.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)And as the quote says, it is what civilized people do.
Food, shelter, clothing, and medicine are not privileges, they are basic human rights.
Haggard Celine
(17,521 posts)it is sinful and evil." I agree, and I think that doesn't just apply to Americans. People are hungry all over the world despite there being adequate food. Farmers and others need to make a profit on the food they raise, so food often gets denied to the people who need it most. Also, some countries' leaders take the food available to them and give it to their supporters and deny food to others. The UN should work on that problem. That's something they might be able to do.
LT Barclay
(3,130 posts)PatSeg
(51,358 posts)We have a new type of aristocracy today, but it is the same concept that we've seen throughout history. These people feel they are better than everyone else and as such, entitled to rule over us inferior peons.
surfered
(10,051 posts)PatSeg
(51,358 posts)unless it serves them. The words of Jesus mean very little to these people.
liberalla
(10,727 posts)Those qualities probably overlap, but those are the words that immediately came to mind.
The "roots of inequality" could be it's own thread.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(89 posts)Farmers were dumping their produce and dairy because due to decreased market demand (not human demand) prices dropped so farmers decreased supply. By giving people food stamps, they could buy food to survive and increase demand so farmers had a market. On top of the tariffs, cutting SNAP also screws farmers once again. And, Vice President J.D. Vance has a past investment in AcreTrader, a financial technology platform that allows investors to buy shares of agricultural land. If more farmers go under because there's fewer buyers, there's more land available to buy.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)buying up agricultural land.
Pretty soon, they are going to run out of people to screw over. I wonder if someone has a checklist.
ChicagoTeamster
(89 posts)The agro business conglomerates were buying up failing family farms and Farm aid raised money to help them keep their farms. What happened to that spirit?
cer7711
(584 posts)Indeed! Well said.
Diamond_Dog
(38,940 posts)And his sheeple parrot that line.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)for his own illegal and corrupt behavior. And anyone who opposes him is a crook and a liar.
Diamond_Dog
(38,940 posts)LittleGirl
(8,870 posts)To receive any government assistance. They take it away Willy nilly and the farmers suffer too I just cant anymore.
RVN VET71
(3,089 posts)Even if, by some miracle, we manage to restore democracy and self-respect as a nation, America will always carry the taint of Trump (and, yes, I mean both meanings of the word). It would take a major force of will and determination to get back to where we once belonged -- among the decent nations, that is -- much like Germany after WWII.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)for fighting authoritarianism and winning. I'd like to be optimistic, but right now I'm not sure. We've been heading in this direction for so long it seems, I'm not sure we can reverse direction. Of course, I don't think there is any 'getting back to where we once belonged'; we may survive, but we'll never be the same.
On a more positive note, perhaps Trump is the catalyst that we needed to overcome so many socioeconomic issues that we keep backsliding on. Maybe things had to get so bad in order for people to truly wake up from their lethargy and realize we must change or perish.
Farmer-Rick
(12,241 posts)But on how they treat the weakest among them.
No one but idiots look at the Nazi regime and think how wonderful that Hitler and his generals got all that wealth to enjoy. No, what every person remembers about Nazi society is how they murdered millions of innocent people.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)If Trump had any grasp of history at all, he'd realize that.