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Bluetus

(1,783 posts)
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:10 PM Yesterday

Is the DNC asking you for money every day without any commitment of purpose? Here is an alternative.

Sorry, I just can't. I can't support a group that fights progressives tooth and nail every damn time. I can't support a group that kicks out a co-chair whose sin was to work to get candidates that aren't already in their late 70s. I can't give money to an organization that thinks their only real job is GOTV in the last 60 days before an election. I can't give money to an organization that can't decide whether to support a disgraced sex-offending Governor over a younger populist, even when that younger guy is kicking the Governor's ass in the polls and the primary by 25 points. Hell, the Governor isn't even running as a Democrat, and the DNC still can't support the Democrat? WTF?

I realize not everybody feels as I do, but in increasing numbers, long-loyal Democrats are realizing we have a major leadership problem, and that's why people like Newsom, Pritzker, Mandani, AOC, Bernie, Jasmine and many others are getting so much love from grass roots Dems these days. Folks, we already have about 100 solid progressives in the House.

2026 can be a wave election. If that wave brings in progressives/populists, people who are far more relatable to Main Street America and the struggles that most Americans are having regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, orientation or anything else (specifically, huge economic issues: the looming recession, the tariff-driven inflation, the GOP efforts to dismantle health care and all other safety nets, dismantling of new energy and the university backbone of R&D that has made this country premiere, and the massive transfer of wealth to the few billionaires at the top), we can make a real change -- the first big change in 50 years. If we elect just 15 more progressives to the House in 2026, the next Speaker can be a real progressive, putting the Democratic Party in a much stronger position to oppose Trump vigorously the rest of his days, and also showing the American public how Democrats really are different and deserve to seat the next president in 2029.

If the DNC is not lining up with where you think we need to be going, then consider the Progressive Caucus PAC. https://weareprogressives.org/

Here is their mission statement:

"The Congressional Progressive Caucus PAC (CPC PAC) has a mission of electing strong, progressive leaders to Congress who share the Congressional Progressive Caucus PAC’s vision for America’s future. Below are just some of the issues CPC PAC will be focusing on in the 2026 election cycle."
and that list includes: budgets that invest in America, raising the minimum wage, expanding Social Security, election reform, trade deals that put American workers first, and health care as a human right.


Personally, that's where most of my contributions will be going in the next 13 months.
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Is the DNC asking you for money every day without any commitment of purpose? Here is an alternative. (Original Post) Bluetus Yesterday OP
More conspiracy theories against the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad DNC. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #1
That's part of the problem adam_vermont Yesterday #2
Lots of untruths out there. MineralMan Yesterday #14
I donate to whomever I want, and then UNSUBSCRIBE when the emails roll in. It's NOT THAT HARD. Hekate Yesterday #3
Good 100,000 post 💙 Deuxcents Yesterday #8
100k posts! MineralMan Yesterday #9
Why thank you Hekate Yesterday #15
Or you can directly donate to candidates Raven123 Yesterday #4
Do Whatever You Want. I'll Do the Same. MineralMan Yesterday #5
Don't put words in my mouth. Bluetus Yesterday #10
LOL! MineralMan Yesterday #12
Sounds serious Torchlight Yesterday #6
If you are getting too many emails, Qutzupalotl Yesterday #7
No, these emails are coming from the DNC -- every day. Bluetus Yesterday #11
Yes, the DNC does share your info. I gave a good alternative. Qutzupalotl Yesterday #13
I understand. I wonder if anybody has any thoughts or insights about Bluetus Yesterday #18
For the longest time, staving off the elements of what is now Project 2025 kept people in the "no matter what" column JHB Yesterday #16
Speaking of tepidness, today, we have people SERIOUSLY considering Bluetus Yesterday #17

W_HAMILTON

(9,753 posts)
1. More conspiracy theories against the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad DNC.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:16 PM
Yesterday


I hope you aren't one of the ones next year we see posting about how the DNC should be blanketing the airwaves in ads with the nonexistent money you and many others that think like you do not contribute to them.

PS - The DNC chair has endorsed Mamdani. I guess the same people that come up with the DNC conspiracy theories are the same people telling everyone that the DNC is somehow undecided between Mamdani and Cuomo.......

adam_vermont

(18 posts)
2. That's part of the problem
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:30 PM
Yesterday

That's part of the problem with the traditional DNC and how they spend their money -- they shouldn't just be blanketing the airwaves, spending what money they have on the same old consultants. They should be adding young people, putting effort into new media, TikTok, YouTube, etc...thinking creatively. They should be making clear that they support Mamdani. Why haven't I heard anywhere that the DNC chair endorsed Mamdani? They need to start doing the right thing before they expect us to donate to them.

MineralMan

(150,068 posts)
14. Lots of untruths out there.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:55 PM
Yesterday

I don't want the DNC taking sides in local elections in any case. And I include the Mayor of NYC as a local election. Feh!

Hekate

(100,016 posts)
3. I donate to whomever I want, and then UNSUBSCRIBE when the emails roll in. It's NOT THAT HARD.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:32 PM
Yesterday

I know where they are, and I can very easily find them when I want to donate again.

Hekate

(100,016 posts)
15. Why thank you
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:57 PM
Yesterday

I was looking for something more meaningful to say, but I think I did that the other night. At least this wasn’t a KnR.

MineralMan

(150,068 posts)
5. Do Whatever You Want. I'll Do the Same.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:49 PM
Yesterday

But, don't come here to tell us not to donate to the DNC or any other Democratic organization. Nope.

I see a lot of ads from organizations and candidates because I donate. I'm on lists of active donors. Guess what, though. I don't see many requests to donate in my emails or texts. The emails go automatically to my spam folder and the texts are automatically blocked because their numbers aren't on my list of contacts.

I donate to individual candidates and to a very select group of organizations. I don't recommend those recipients to others necessarily, nor do I ever tell anyone who NOT to donate to. That would be beyond rude, actually.

Donate as much as you can to whomever you think will actively turn your donations into votes. Don't donate to organizations that work on projects with which you disagree.

But don't come here and tell other Democratic and Progressive voters who should get their donations. Like I said, that's rude. It assumes that you know more than they do. I doubt that very much.

If you don't like what I'm saying, you can put me on ignore, because I'm going to keep right on doing what I do.

Bluetus

(1,783 posts)
10. Don't put words in my mouth.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:37 PM
Yesterday

I said *I* cannot donate to them. I am simply listing this constructive alternative for anybody else who is wondering where they can contribute in a way that fits their values. You don't need to explain to me that you don't require my permission. Everybody here understands that, and I acknowledged that very plainly.

But if you are trying to bully me, I won't have that.

Qutzupalotl

(15,583 posts)
7. If you are getting too many emails,
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:59 PM
Yesterday

it's possible some group such as ActBlue has shared or sold your contact info. I don't know whether the PAC the OP mentioned will do the same. I can handle a few unsubscribes; but during campaign season, they seem to proliferate beyond a reasonable level IMO, including out-of-state candidates I have never heard of.

So my advice to any who care enough to donate but want to limit solicitations is to donate through http://oath.vote. They don't sell or share your info. They survive on tips but are transparent about it.

Bluetus

(1,783 posts)
11. No, these emails are coming from the DNC -- every day.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:38 PM
Yesterday

I understand I can unsubscribe. My point is to find an outlet that is likely to lead to a better result than we have seen with the DNC.

Qutzupalotl

(15,583 posts)
13. Yes, the DNC does share your info. I gave a good alternative.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:55 PM
Yesterday

(I was using the royal “you,” meaning I'm addressing anyone who is getting bombarded.) Check it out. http://oath.vote

Bluetus

(1,783 posts)
18. I understand. I wonder if anybody has any thoughts or insights about
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 09:23 PM
Yesterday

the progressive caucus PAC.

From my POV, sending money to the DNC is at best, paying for a ground game starting 11 months from now and little else. That's not necessarily bad, but it isn't strategic and will definitely not meet the opportunity of a real wave election.

And at worst, it is just sending good money after bad.

I don't know how organized or effective the progressive caucus PAC is, but it certainly talks about more strategic things I'd prefer to invest in.

Has anybody looked into this?

JHB

(37,849 posts)
16. For the longest time, staving off the elements of what is now Project 2025 kept people in the "no matter what" column
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:03 PM
Yesterday

Now? That strategy has already failed. Tepidness will not do.

Bluetus

(1,783 posts)
17. Speaking of tepidness, today, we have people SERIOUSLY considering
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 09:16 PM
Yesterday

Agreeing to ending the shutdown in order to restore SNAP payments.

In other words, letting the GOP take two hostages (food assistance and health care) and killing one of them. That is what some call being bipartisan and meeting Republicans halfway.

And I would point out that they didn't take 2 hostages. They took 100 hostages, such as killing half the IRS enforcement budget (the half that audits billionaires, you can be sure), new energy programs, lots of infrastructure and many other things.

We never should have said "OK you can kill all those other hostages as long as you give us the ACA subsidies back." And let's hope nobody caves in with this latest trick.

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