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dalton99a

(90,938 posts)
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:53 PM 13 hrs ago

King Charles III strips Prince Andrew of titles and evicts him from royal residence

https://apnews.com/article/king-charles-prince-andrew-strips-royal-titles-7fad76a46a211ae24b605cbd24e80748

King Charles III strips Prince Andrew of titles and evicts him from royal residence
By BRIAN MELLEY and JILL LAWLESS
Updated 3:51 PM CDT, October 30, 2025

LONDON (AP) — King Charles III on Thursday stripped his disgraced brother Prince Andrew of his remaining titles and evicted him from his royal residence after weeks of pressure to act over his relationship with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Buckingham Palace said the king “initiated a formal process to remove the Style, Titles and Honours of Prince Andrew.”

Effective immediately, Andrew will be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and not as a prince, and he will move from his Royal Lodge residence into “private accommodation.”

Demand had been growing on the palace to oust the prince from Royal Lodge after he surrendered his use of the title Duke of York earlier this month over new revelations about his friendship with Epstein and allegations by one of Epstein’s victims, Virginia Roberts Giuffre.

But the king went even further to punish him for serious lapses of judgment by removing the title of prince that he has held since birth as a child of a monarch, the late Queen Elizabeth II.

“These censures are deemed necessary, notwithstanding the fact that he continues to deny the allegations against him,” the palace said. “Their Majesties wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost sympathies have been, and will remain with, the victims and survivors of any and all forms of abuse.”

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King Charles III strips Prince Andrew of titles and evicts him from royal residence (Original Post) dalton99a 13 hrs ago OP
Well, to be fair, it didn't seem as if Queen Elizabeth had it in her to no_hypocrisy 13 hrs ago #1
He was her favorite LittleGirl 12 hrs ago #15
It is a damn shame that our President and wannabe king has less honor than he actual King of England. Moostache 11 hrs ago #21
Charles is not a fan of Trump either SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #34
The perv formally known as Prince! El Supremo 13 hrs ago #2
I now crown you, Perv Andrew! Publish it throughout the land! n/t Jacson6 13 hrs ago #6
He may not be a prince MurrayDelph 11 hrs ago #28
Wonder if "King Donald I" will do the honorable thing and resign? walkingman 13 hrs ago #3
Damn. Has the Royal Family seen this kind of internal drama since... Volaris 13 hrs ago #4
Yes more info to drop? Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #9
The book was published Oct 21st LittleGirl 12 hrs ago #16
Nobodys Girl? or the british one? Volaris 11 hrs ago #22
Nobody's Girl. nt LittleGirl 8 hrs ago #41
Im half done with it. Its a pretty rough read. Volaris 6 hrs ago #43
There are some things I need to read LittleGirl 5 hrs ago #45
I think this was caused by the email hoping to "play some more soon" with Epstein, after Andrew claimed he had cut off muriel_volestrangler 12 hrs ago #18
I'm sure it's about the book pinkstarburst 11 hrs ago #19
That makes sense, but does william even want the job, at this point? Volaris 11 hrs ago #23
Yes William is fully committed to doing the job he was trained to do. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #38
Got it. Volaris 6 hrs ago #42
I am on a couple of British forums. Irish_Dem 2 hrs ago #47
Edward VIII? SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #35
Oh for sure! hedda_foil 10 hrs ago #36
Yes canetoad 6 hrs ago #44
Mary Ii and Anne overthrowing their father Retrograde 4 hrs ago #46
Thats gonna hurt. Apprently he likes to say "im a prince born" and has DOY license plates BlueWaveNeverEnd 13 hrs ago #5
He is entitled, arrogant, obnoxious. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #10
Not nearly enough, though. 2naSalit 12 hrs ago #17
Yes he belongs in prison. Irish_Dem 11 hrs ago #24
Slap on the fucking wrist. Brenda 13 hrs ago #7
If its this bad in the UK, what does this mean for donnie t? RT Atlanta 13 hrs ago #8
Randy Andy's hittin the bricks. BannonsLiver 13 hrs ago #11
Good, sounds like they are moving to other homes within the Crown Estates...Still quite roomy and free of charge so, meh wcmagumba 13 hrs ago #12
Recall the relationship Charles and other royals had with Jimmy Savile. nt PufPuf23 12 hrs ago #13
Savile sounds like the u.k. version of epstein. mwmisses4289 11 hrs ago #30
Makes you wonder what new revelations are going to come out Warpy 12 hrs ago #14
Does he have any means of making a living? question everything 11 hrs ago #20
He may get a small allowance as long as he shuts up and keeps his head down. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #39
I just read comments by UK citizens and they HATE him BigmanPigman 11 hrs ago #25
I would like to see Andy Windsor.... mwooldri 11 hrs ago #27
That would be a step in the right direction BigmanPigman 11 hrs ago #29
Yes there are four royals the Brits hate with a passion. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #40
I wouldn't give Charles too much credit. nycbos 11 hrs ago #26
And yet King Charles just hosted trump at windsor castle. He should've IcyPeas 10 hrs ago #31
He can't do that SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #37
He'll write the tell-all books of tell-all books. I can't wait Buckeyeblue 10 hrs ago #32
This story makes me wonder. Collimator 10 hrs ago #33
This message was self-deleted by its author mucholderthandirt 1 hr ago #49
Woah! I didn't think they could remove his title as a prince, since he was born to a monarch. mucholderthandirt 1 hr ago #48

no_hypocrisy

(53,608 posts)
1. Well, to be fair, it didn't seem as if Queen Elizabeth had it in her to
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:03 PM
13 hrs ago

strip her second son of his titles and status.

Hope you think it was worth it Andy . . . . .

Moostache

(10,877 posts)
21. It is a damn shame that our President and wannabe king has less honor than he actual King of England.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:49 PM
11 hrs ago

Trumpstein is tattooed to his ugly orange ass forever, but in the here and now, only the King if England has shown the grace to act in accordance to the victims' suffering and harm without regard to personal impact or relations.

walkingman

(10,021 posts)
3. Wonder if "King Donald I" will do the honorable thing and resign?
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:06 PM
13 hrs ago

A man without honor is worse than dead.

Volaris

(11,204 posts)
4. Damn. Has the Royal Family seen this kind of internal drama since...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:08 PM
13 hrs ago

I dunno...queens Mary and Elizabeth??

That's one hell of a statement from the palace..NO sympathy for Andy, just for the victims. Something else must have happened we don't know about just yet to seriously SERIOUSLY piss off Charles.

LittleGirl

(8,867 posts)
16. The book was published Oct 21st
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:21 PM
12 hrs ago

The whole world will hear all the details so enough.

Volaris

(11,204 posts)
43. Im half done with it. Its a pretty rough read.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 11:51 PM
6 hrs ago

I ordered a second copy to drop at my republican congresswomans office.

That copy won't get read, but I figure that's the point.

LittleGirl

(8,867 posts)
45. There are some things I need to read
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 12:37 AM
5 hrs ago

And AVOID. I might read a section but it might be triggering for me.

Thanks for the caution. It’s appreciated.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,091 posts)
18. I think this was caused by the email hoping to "play some more soon" with Epstein, after Andrew claimed he had cut off
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:25 PM
12 hrs ago

contact.

Prince Andrew told Jeffrey Epstein in an email “we are in this together” after a picture of the British royal with his arm around a teenage Virginia Giuffre was first published in 2011.

The email will pile further pressure on the Duke of York and the royal family because he previously told the BBC he had ceased contact with the convicted child sex offender by that point.
...
Andrew emailed Epstein on 28 February 2011, the day after the well-known photograph of the duke, Giuffre and Ghislaine Maxwell was made public. He told Epstein to “keep in close touch” and expressed a wish to “play some more soon”.
...
But he wrote to Epstein in the message after the photo was published: “I’m just as concerned for you! Don’t worry about me! It would seem we are in this together and will have to rise above it. Otherwise keep in close touch and we’ll play some more soon!!!!”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/12/prince-andrew-told-jeffrey-epstein-were-in-this-together-in-2011-email

So this shows that his claim that he'd gone to New York to say he would break all contact with Epstein (when they were photographed in Central Park) was a tissue of lies; and the "play some more soon" is, in the context of Epstein, depraved. Whether they have any more as yet unpublished evidence, that really was enough for them to need to push him as far away as they could.

I wouldn't put this quite on the Mary and Elizabeth scale (and I'd say that Mary II and her husband William III invading to depose her father James II/VII was more dramatic in 1689, while being "internal" in a sense). It's at the scale of Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson; on the face of it, more dramatic, since they hadn't done anything wrong, though him being later seen as Nazi-curious gave that a lot of importance after the fact.

pinkstarburst

(1,814 posts)
19. I'm sure it's about the book
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:39 PM
11 hrs ago

But also, Charles may know that given his health he only has a finite amount of time left. Andrew is only 65. Elizabeth was never willing to do the right thing re: Andrew because he was her son and she coddled him. Charles may be thinking he needs to take more decisive action due to the bad press they're about to get, and also be thinking of William, and not want this to be hanging over his head when the monarchy eventually passes to him.

Irish_Dem

(77,027 posts)
38. Yes William is fully committed to doing the job he was trained to do.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 09:06 PM
9 hrs ago

And making necessary changes to slim the monarchy and cut out the dead damaging branches.

hedda_foil

(16,859 posts)
36. Oh for sure!
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:53 PM
10 hrs ago

Check out the Plantagents. They went in for murdering their kingly cousins if they didn't like their style. Or the Stewarts! The English Royal families have tended to be disastrous from the get-go.

canetoad

(19,747 posts)
44. Yes
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 11:59 PM
6 hrs ago

The abdication of Edward VIII in 1936 and everything that Edward VII did, but there was no internet then, so people only found out years later.

Retrograde

(11,329 posts)
46. Mary Ii and Anne overthrowing their father
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 01:58 AM
4 hrs ago

and getting him and their newborn brother out of the country? OK, parliament helped, but the British royals are big on petty dramas, feuds, and squabbles

2naSalit

(98,449 posts)
17. Not nearly enough, though.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:24 PM
12 hrs ago

I think there's going to be more.

It's telling that his mother protected him.

Brenda

(1,858 posts)
7. Slap on the fucking wrist.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:17 PM
13 hrs ago

Dude should have had all of these entitlements stripped years ago AND

prosecuted for knowingly participating in human sex trafficking AND

gone to prison.


RT Atlanta

(2,660 posts)
8. If its this bad in the UK, what does this mean for donnie t?
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:19 PM
13 hrs ago

Trusting the slow build will eventually reveal something verifiable from those 'files' - over and above all the pics of donnie and friends side by side with the epstein monster.

wcmagumba

(5,020 posts)
12. Good, sounds like they are moving to other homes within the Crown Estates...Still quite roomy and free of charge so, meh
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:28 PM
13 hrs ago

Pedo still at large, much the same as the US Pedo in Chief...

Warpy

(114,122 posts)
14. Makes you wonder what new revelations are going to come out
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:17 PM
12 hrs ago

because it looks like they want to brush his butt out of the country, altogether but can't think of a way to do it to a citizen.

Irish_Dem

(77,027 posts)
39. He may get a small allowance as long as he shuts up and keeps his head down.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 09:07 PM
9 hrs ago

His attempt to get front page press and make jokes to William at a recent family funeral was
the final straw.

BigmanPigman

(54,229 posts)
25. I just read comments by UK citizens and they HATE him
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:07 PM
11 hrs ago

and they don't think this "punishment" is adequate. Basically King Charles was heckled at a recent event over Andrew and that is why he finally did something but it definitely not nearly enough for the citizens. They want a full investigation, prison, no $$$ for his living arrangements, etc.

No $$$, no paid for living accommodations for both him and Fergie and they pretty much think the whole monarchy needs to be nullified. It serves no purposes and costs England big bucks to keep this clown/crown show afloat.

mwooldri

(10,749 posts)
27. I would like to see Andy Windsor....
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:21 PM
11 hrs ago

... face charges, be convicted... And he can stay at His Majesty's Pleasure.

But the whole monarchy being nullified? I don't think we're there yet. I'm not a small R republican - the constitutional monarchy is working OK for the UK. The one change I would make is get rid of first past the post Westminster elections and use a form of proportional representation. This would help ensure extremists like Reform don't ever get to taste power in Westminster.

nycbos

(6,631 posts)
26. I wouldn't give Charles too much credit.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:18 PM
11 hrs ago

I think it’s more about the fact that he got caught than when he did. And Andrew will still live more luxurious life than 99% of the UK population

IcyPeas

(24,522 posts)
31. And yet King Charles just hosted trump at windsor castle. He should've
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:38 PM
10 hrs ago

canceled that visit and stated the reason publicly.

Buckeyeblue

(6,070 posts)
32. He'll write the tell-all books of tell-all books. I can't wait
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:41 PM
10 hrs ago

He has no reason to hold back. While I think he is deplorable, I'm guessing much of the royal family is.

Collimator

(2,026 posts)
33. This story makes me wonder.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:45 PM
10 hrs ago

Here, in America, we have the Republican powers-that-be holding back the Epstein Files. But maybe ours are not the only Epstein Files. Other countries may have information (I imagine Russia sure as hell does) and their firewalls may crumple more easily on this story.

Response to Collimator (Reply #33)

mucholderthandirt

(1,703 posts)
48. Woah! I didn't think they could remove his title as a prince, since he was born to a monarch.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 05:17 AM
1 hr ago

That's got to sting. But good on King Charles, he stood up and did what's right. America could learn from this, if they would.

I hate nasty child molesters. Oh, now that's two groups of people I hate in total. MAGA and child molesters, though I'd guess there's a lot of crossover between those groups.

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