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Johnny2X2X

(23,632 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:30 AM Nov 20

BLS Jobs report finally released for September, UE rises to 4.4%, 119,000 jobs created

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

August revised down from +22,000 to -4000. July revised down from 79,000 to 72,000.

It's a bad report, but since everyone is expecting bad reports because of Trump's terrible policies, this won't be received as bad.

Important note, the jobs created were mostly in health care +43K and Food services +37K.

Jobs in transportation and warehousing decreased by 25K.

No manufacturing jobs were created.
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BLS Jobs report finally released for September, UE rises to 4.4%, 119,000 jobs created (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Nov 20 OP
It has that BLS lack-of-style style, so the usual gang must have put this together. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 20 #1
We'll know when they start faking the numbers Johnny2X2X Nov 20 #2
surprised poozwah Nov 20 #3
Yahoo Finance: "Jobs report blows past hiring estimates" Johnny2X2X Nov 20 #4
That's from ABC, the fake news network. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 20 #9
US labor market gained 119,000 jobs in September as unemployment edged up slightly mahatmakanejeeves Nov 20 #5
They will only be able to fake it for so long newdeal2 Nov 20 #6
They're delaying the November data Johnny2X2X Nov 20 #7
SPEAKING of the Dow.... democratsruletheday Nov 20 #10
Report will have revised numbers like it always does as more people still reporting. So not really final. RoeVWade Nov 20 #8
Wall Street liked the number Johonny Nov 20 #11
Wall Street liked the Nvidia earnings report Johnny2X2X Nov 20 #12
That number is a total fabrication. Trump just made it up Takket Nov 20 #13
I needed to get my car serviced JI7 Nov 20 #14
As of Noon....now the Dow is down 75 pts and falling democratsruletheday Nov 20 #15
Rate cuts Johnny2X2X Nov 20 #16
Down 300+ now Johnny2X2X Nov 20 #17

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,685 posts)
1. It has that BLS lack-of-style style, so the usual gang must have put this together.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:34 AM
Nov 20

And good morning.

Johnny2X2X

(23,632 posts)
2. We'll know when they start faking the numbers
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:40 AM
Nov 20

There are career and dedicated civil servants producing this data, when it gets corrupted, they will make some noise and resign en masse. Of course, the media will cover it for a few weeks, but then soon after that they'll just report the fake numbers as if nothing happened. Eventually the BLS will be reporting outrageous and obviously made up numbers like 0.2% unemployment and a bigly 1 Million jobs created per month.

Of note, wage growth was a paltry 0.2% for the month, for the first time in years, wage growth is less than inflation.

poozwah

(384 posts)
3. surprised
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:41 AM
Nov 20

given that the trump administration had all this additional time to fix the numbers, it is surprising that so few jobs were added.

Johnny2X2X

(23,632 posts)
4. Yahoo Finance: "Jobs report blows past hiring estimates"
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:50 AM
Nov 20

Last edited Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:23 AM - Edit history (1)

SMH. This is another terrible jobs report, if this report had been under Joe Biden the Greatest Jobs President in history, the headlines would be about doom. We're averaging 62,000 new jobs a month over the last 3 months of data, we need to create 125,000 or so just to keep up with new job seekers, 62K a month is catastrophic.

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,685 posts)
5. US labor market gained 119,000 jobs in September as unemployment edged up slightly
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:17 AM
Nov 20
Yahoo Finance
US labor market gained 119,000 jobs in September as unemployment edged up slightly

Emma Ockerman
Updated Thu, November 20, 2025 at 9:10 AM EST 2 min read

The US economy added 119,000 positions in September, data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed Thursday, an unexpected boost to the labor market that has lately shown signs of a possible slowdown.

Wall Street economists expected a gain of around 50,000 positions, according to data from Bloomberg. But, while the September number beat economists’ expectations, revisions to prior months’ data showed August’s payrolls lost 4,000 jobs, compared to the previously reported gain of 22,000. July also showed a slightly smaller boost of 72,000 positions, instead of 79,000.

{snip}

newdeal2

(4,552 posts)
6. They will only be able to fake it for so long
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:28 AM
Nov 20

No manufacturing jobs created after all of these protective tariffs is abysmal.

If and when the AI bubble bursts, its game over for the stock market.

Johnny2X2X

(23,632 posts)
7. They're delaying the November data
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:38 AM
Nov 20

Won’t be released until 12/16. And they’re just not going to have data for October.

democratsruletheday

(1,806 posts)
10. SPEAKING of the Dow....
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:20 AM
Nov 20

it's up over 500 pts. today based on what J2 accurately points out is a crappy jobs report. Such a joke, like you posted....when the AI bubble pops, look out below. Of course, unless you believe the Nvidia CEO at this point, which I don't:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/19/nvidias-huang-rejects-ai-bubble-we-see-something-very-different.html

RoeVWade

(727 posts)
8. Report will have revised numbers like it always does as more people still reporting. So not really final.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:41 AM
Nov 20

nt*

Johonny

(25,122 posts)
11. Wall Street liked the number
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:36 AM
Nov 20

Although it feels like bad news the one sector growing jobs, is the one sector the 2026 federal budget absolutely cuts . . .

Johnny2X2X

(23,632 posts)
12. Wall Street liked the Nvidia earnings report
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:54 AM
Nov 20

Markets were up big in pre-trading before the jobs report hit.

Takket

(23,376 posts)
13. That number is a total fabrication. Trump just made it up
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 11:23 AM
Nov 20

ADP already published September numbers back in October while rethugs had the government shut down and they showed a 32000 job private sector reduction. So there is simply no way in hell trump’s numbers are real.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/adp-report-private-payrolls-32000-decline-september-bls-jobs-report/

The ADP National Employment Report, a measure of private employment in the U.S., said on Wednesday that payrolls at private employers declined by 32,000 jobs last month, signaling the labor market continued to face headwinds in September.

More attention may be given to the ADP data this week because the government's monthly jobs report, scheduled for release on Friday, Oct. 3, could be delayed due to the government shutdown that began today, according to Oxford Economics.

On Wednesday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which issues the federal monthly jobs report, noted in a statement that it has halted data releases "due to the suspension of Federal government services." It added, "The last update to the site was Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2025. Updates to the site will start again when the Federal government resumes operations."

The ADP report, which is based on payroll data from more than 26 million U.S. employees, comes as the U.S. economy expanded at a stronger-than-expected rate in the second quarter. At the same time, the government's monthly jobs reports this summer have shown disappointing job growth as some businesses are holding off on hiring amid economic challenges such as tariffs and artificial intelligence.

JI7

(93,027 posts)
14. I needed to get my car serviced
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 11:36 AM
Nov 20

and the place I go is usually busy but they haven't been at least in the last month or so.

Not sure if it's part of a larger problem .

democratsruletheday

(1,806 posts)
15. As of Noon....now the Dow is down 75 pts and falling
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 12:09 PM
Nov 20

after being up close to 600 pts. to open the day. Wildly fluctuating and unpredictable....just like this shitty excuse for an administration.

Johnny2X2X

(23,632 posts)
16. Rate cuts
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 12:11 PM
Nov 20

Fed putting out some signals that inflation is a worry and the job market isn't collapsing as badly from Trump's policies as feared so maybe they won't cut rates next month.

Johnny2X2X

(23,632 posts)
17. Down 300+ now
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 12:53 PM
Nov 20

The economy is on trouble and people are basically learning to accept that things will be bad.

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