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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBLS Jobs report finally released for September, UE rises to 4.4%, 119,000 jobs created
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htmAugust revised down from +22,000 to -4000. July revised down from 79,000 to 72,000.
It's a bad report, but since everyone is expecting bad reports because of Trump's terrible policies, this won't be received as bad.
Important note, the jobs created were mostly in health care +43K and Food services +37K.
Jobs in transportation and warehousing decreased by 25K.
No manufacturing jobs were created.
mahatmakanejeeves
(67,685 posts)And good morning.
Johnny2X2X
(23,632 posts)There are career and dedicated civil servants producing this data, when it gets corrupted, they will make some noise and resign en masse. Of course, the media will cover it for a few weeks, but then soon after that they'll just report the fake numbers as if nothing happened. Eventually the BLS will be reporting outrageous and obviously made up numbers like 0.2% unemployment and a bigly 1 Million jobs created per month.
Of note, wage growth was a paltry 0.2% for the month, for the first time in years, wage growth is less than inflation.
poozwah
(384 posts)given that the trump administration had all this additional time to fix the numbers, it is surprising that so few jobs were added.
Johnny2X2X
(23,632 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:23 AM - Edit history (1)
SMH. This is another terrible jobs report, if this report had been under Joe Biden the Greatest Jobs President in history, the headlines would be about doom. We're averaging 62,000 new jobs a month over the last 3 months of data, we need to create 125,000 or so just to keep up with new job seekers, 62K a month is catastrophic.
mahatmakanejeeves
(67,685 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(67,685 posts)US labor market gained 119,000 jobs in September as unemployment edged up slightly
Emma Ockerman
Updated Thu, November 20, 2025 at 9:10 AM EST 2 min read
The US economy added 119,000 positions in September, data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed Thursday, an unexpected boost to the labor market that has lately shown signs of a possible slowdown.
Wall Street economists expected a gain of around 50,000 positions, according to data from Bloomberg. But, while the September number beat economists expectations, revisions to prior months data showed Augusts payrolls lost 4,000 jobs, compared to the previously reported gain of 22,000. July also showed a slightly smaller boost of 72,000 positions, instead of 79,000.
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newdeal2
(4,552 posts)No manufacturing jobs created after all of these protective tariffs is abysmal.
If and when the AI bubble bursts, its game over for the stock market.
Johnny2X2X
(23,632 posts)Wont be released until 12/16. And theyre just not going to have data for October.
democratsruletheday
(1,806 posts)it's up over 500 pts. today based on what J2 accurately points out is a crappy jobs report. Such a joke, like you posted....when the AI bubble pops, look out below. Of course, unless you believe the Nvidia CEO at this point, which I don't:
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/19/nvidias-huang-rejects-ai-bubble-we-see-something-very-different.html
RoeVWade
(727 posts)nt*
Johonny
(25,122 posts)Although it feels like bad news the one sector growing jobs, is the one sector the 2026 federal budget absolutely cuts . . .
Johnny2X2X
(23,632 posts)Markets were up big in pre-trading before the jobs report hit.
Takket
(23,376 posts)ADP already published September numbers back in October while rethugs had the government shut down and they showed a 32000 job private sector reduction. So there is simply no way in hell trumps numbers are real.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/adp-report-private-payrolls-32000-decline-september-bls-jobs-report/
The ADP National Employment Report, a measure of private employment in the U.S., said on Wednesday that payrolls at private employers declined by 32,000 jobs last month, signaling the labor market continued to face headwinds in September.
More attention may be given to the ADP data this week because the government's monthly jobs report, scheduled for release on Friday, Oct. 3, could be delayed due to the government shutdown that began today, according to Oxford Economics.
On Wednesday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which issues the federal monthly jobs report, noted in a statement that it has halted data releases "due to the suspension of Federal government services." It added, "The last update to the site was Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2025. Updates to the site will start again when the Federal government resumes operations."
The ADP report, which is based on payroll data from more than 26 million U.S. employees, comes as the U.S. economy expanded at a stronger-than-expected rate in the second quarter. At the same time, the government's monthly jobs reports this summer have shown disappointing job growth as some businesses are holding off on hiring amid economic challenges such as tariffs and artificial intelligence.
JI7
(93,027 posts)and the place I go is usually busy but they haven't been at least in the last month or so.
Not sure if it's part of a larger problem .
democratsruletheday
(1,806 posts)after being up close to 600 pts. to open the day. Wildly fluctuating and unpredictable....just like this shitty excuse for an administration.
Johnny2X2X
(23,632 posts)Fed putting out some signals that inflation is a worry and the job market isn't collapsing as badly from Trump's policies as feared so maybe they won't cut rates next month.
Johnny2X2X
(23,632 posts)The economy is on trouble and people are basically learning to accept that things will be bad.