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Miles Archer

(21,173 posts)
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 01:53 AM Saturday

Alcoholic Sexually Abusive Murderous Tattooed Performance Artist NOT COVERED BY Trump's "Total Immunity"

Pete Hegseth could face a possible war crimes prosecution over a claim that he ordered a second strike to kill survivors of a U.S. missile attack on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean.

The Pentagon chief insisted that all 11 people on board the boat should be killed, according to The Washington Post.

“The order was to kill everybody,” alleged two people with direct knowledge of the SEAL Team 6 operation targeting the waterborne drug smugglers.

Two people were reportedly clinging to the burning deck of the vessel destroyed by a U.S. rocket fired off the coast of Trinidad on Sept. 2.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pentagon-pete-in-legal-peril-over-kill-them-all-orders/

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Alcoholic Sexually Abusive Murderous Tattooed Performance Artist NOT COVERED BY Trump's "Total Immunity" (Original Post) Miles Archer Saturday OP
Why is Hegseth hell bent on killing the survivors? Irish_Dem Saturday #1
"Makes great TV," I guess. Miles Archer Saturday #3
Exactly. The story about shooting her puppy was a sales pitch for Trump. Irish_Dem Saturday #6
A 2-sided coin Miles Archer Saturday #7
Two reasons she was not VP: She is better looking than Trump. Irish_Dem Saturday #13
It proves his loyalty to the fuehrer. Conjuay Saturday #4
No one left to talk Mz Pip Saturday #8
Supposedly these boats were taking drugs to Europe, not here. Uncle Joe Saturday #12
Dead men tell no tales. Buns_of_Fire Saturday #2
The question before me is such: no_hypocrisy Saturday #5
pardoned by Trump edhopper Saturday #10
Trump holds no sway at The Hague. no_hypocrisy Saturday #11
He is not going to be edhopper Saturday #17
Covered by edhopper Saturday #9
The Seal team members who carried out these orders are just as liable as Hegseth. Rafi Saturday #14
This stood out to me MagickMuffin Saturday #15
Hegseth has multiple roles in the Trump Administration: Yes Man and Fall Guy thought crime Saturday #16
WELL, if I ever have authority over seal team six, or over 500 newly deployed to DC national guardsmen--- Jack Valentino Saturday #18

Miles Archer

(21,173 posts)
3. "Makes great TV," I guess.
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 07:11 AM
Saturday

It's the same as Noem saying that shooting her puppy in the face means she's willing to do what others won't.

People like Noem and Hegseth will create a narrative for their mental illness that not only "justifies it," it also makes them a hero (a "legend in their own mind" ).

The cricket story cost Noem the VP gig, but she stil got a spot at the top. And she got two "FREE" luxury jets from taxpayers!

Trump VP contender Kristi Noem responds to backlash over story about killing her dog
April 27, 20245:53 PM ET

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/27/1247666219/kristi-noem-dog-controversy-trump-vp

During a pheasant-hunting trip, the dog went "out of her mind with excitement," and later attacked another family's chickens. And when she went to grab Cricket, Noem says, the dog bit her.

"I hated that dog," Noem wrote in the excerpt. The dog was "dangerous to anyone she came in contact with" and "less than worthless" as a hunting dog.

"I realized I had to put her down," she wrote. The newspaper did not say when Noem said the incident occurred.

According to The Guardian, Noem said she included the grisly story to demonstrate her readiness in politics to do what needs to be done, even if it's "difficult, messy and ugly."

Irish_Dem

(78,440 posts)
6. Exactly. The story about shooting her puppy was a sales pitch for Trump.
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 09:16 AM
Saturday

He loved it and hired her for a top spot in his crime syndicate.

Miles Archer

(21,173 posts)
7. A 2-sided coin
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 09:21 AM
Saturday

1). The relentless blow-back with Noem as VP would have been "too close for comfort."

2). On the other hand, it's a troll's dream come true. Trump swoons over anything that angers and upsets people. He knew he'd be hearing about Cricket for four years, and Lewandowski. You have to wonder how upset a guy who has cheated on all three of his wives would be when given the choice to appoint an adulteress to his cabinet. Also, we know that Trump has no pets, and that animals don't seem to like him any better than he likes them.

So he wanted her around to keep people agitated and angry, just not within walking distance of him in the White House.

Irish_Dem

(78,440 posts)
13. Two reasons she was not VP: She is better looking than Trump.
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 10:16 AM
Saturday

Theil paid a huge sum to Don Jr to get Vance on the ticket.

Uncle Joe

(63,837 posts)
12. Supposedly these boats were taking drugs to Europe, not here.
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 10:10 AM
Saturday

So who in global organized crime would have an interest in seeing a competitor wiped out or diminished so as to be able to take up the slack for themselves.

Sort of like the St. Valentine's Day Massacre, two of Al Capone's killers were dressed as police, they pretended to be law enforcement, just as the *rump administration pretends this is about crime.

I imagine Hegseth doesn't want witnesses to tell what they were actually doing, and if they are/were transporting drugs, who is their main competitor if they have one?

Usually there seems to be more than one gang or cartel, especially on a global level.

That's my two cent take on it.





Buns_of_Fire

(18,942 posts)
2. Dead men tell no tales.
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 06:51 AM
Saturday

Besides, it's the manly-man, warrior thing to do, when his alcohol-fueled fantasies tell him that he's a modern-day Conan the Barbarian.

no_hypocrisy

(53,931 posts)
5. The question before me is such:
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 08:20 AM
Saturday

Which should come first?

A) Trial in the federal courts,

B) Trial at The Hague, or

C) Remove his citizenship, put in an ICE facility, and then sent to Somalia.

Rafi

(258 posts)
14. The Seal team members who carried out these orders are just as liable as Hegseth.
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 10:27 AM
Saturday

These are exactly these are exactly the kind of orders Kelly and the others were talking about in their video.

MagickMuffin

(18,033 posts)
15. This stood out to me
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 01:47 PM
Saturday


“The order was to kill everybody,” alleged two people with direct knowledge of the SEAL Team 6 operation targeting the waterborne drug smugglers.


Why isn’t the word allegedly not used in this sentence?

“The order was to kill everybody,” alleged two people with direct knowledge of the SEAL Team 6 operation targeting the allegedly waterborne drug smugglers.

There is no proof whatsoever that any of these boat murders are drug smugglers. No one with enforcement boarded the boats to determine if there were any drugs involved.

More of the shoddy reporting from the press, that used to make certain they covered their asses by inserting allegedly into every article to protect themselves from lawsuits.





Jack Valentino

(4,115 posts)
18. WELL, if I ever have authority over seal team six, or over 500 newly deployed to DC national guardsmen---
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 06:27 PM
Saturday

on a target of my choice--

ok, I'll stop right here.


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