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highplainsdem

(59,339 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 04:05 PM Saturday

Elon Musk and Dmitry Medvedev call for the abolition of the EU (+ background from Peter Jukes of Byline Times)

Elon Musk and his Russian friends call for the abolishment of the EU

European News (@eunews.social) 2025-12-06T17:34:13.137Z




From Byline cofounder Peter Jukes:


Musk, Medvedev and the Long War on Europe

Dmitry Medvedev joining Elon Musk in a call for the abolition of the EU captures fifteen years of Kremlin information warfare since Ukraine’s EU Maidan, and encapsulates the story of Trojan Horses

pdjukes.substack.com/p/musk-medve...

Peter Jukes (@peterjukes.bsky.social) 2025-12-06T18:21:33.549Z

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Elon Musk and Dmitry Medvedev call for the abolition of the EU (+ background from Peter Jukes of Byline Times) (Original Post) highplainsdem Saturday OP
Well, that sounds like the end right there The Madcap Saturday #1
The EU is a bloated mass of bureaucrats constantly thinking up new rules to make life difficult for its citizens DFW Saturday #2
Yes break them into more bite size bits so the autocrats can band together ToxMarz Saturday #3
Musk, Medvedev, and their allies running the Trump regime - see the "National Security Strategy" muriel_volestrangler Saturday #4

DFW

(59,594 posts)
2. The EU is a bloated mass of bureaucrats constantly thinking up new rules to make life difficult for its citizens
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 04:20 PM
Saturday

And The New Soviets (if I say "NS" for short, the coincidence is NOT a coincidence, see 1923-1945) want to put a STOP to it? EU bureaucratic inefficiency is about the only thing left standing between a Europe ready to stand up to Putin and Trump and the bureaucratic mess they have now. Musk and Putin (Medvedyev) should give thanks for the mess of n opposition they have now, and not a an alliance of loosely federated countries small enough to really want to do something about them.

ToxMarz

(2,695 posts)
3. Yes break them into more bite size bits so the autocrats can band together
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 04:22 PM
Saturday

and swallow them whole.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,402 posts)
4. Musk, Medvedev, and their allies running the Trump regime - see the "National Security Strategy"
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 04:30 PM
Saturday
Trump lays bare his contempt for Europe in blistering new national security plan

But the paper’s most disturbing thinking is reserved for the US’ favorite bete noir: Europe. The echoes of Vice President JD Vance’s corrosive speech in February at the Munich Security Conference run through two pages which accuse – without evidence – European allies of suppressing free speech and democracy, while crippling their own economies through over-regulation. It claims a majority of Europeans are denied democratic expression of their desire for peace with Russia – a reductive take on a continent eager to avoid another conflagration, and seeing the Russian threat manifest itself in sabotage across their capitals.

The strategy borrows from those on Europe’s extremities when it dips into the racist “great replacement” theory to state that Europe faces “civilizational erasure.”

“It is more than plausible that within a few decades at the latest, certain NATO members will become majority non-European.” In other words, Europe will be less White, will therefore turn on America’s alliances when they are “unrecognizable in 20 years or less” and not necessarily “strong enough to remain reliable allies.” It goes further, to suggest the remedy of “cultivating resistance to Europe’s current trajectory within European nations” – a nod to overt interference.

Russia is spared, unsurprisingly, similar criticism, and deemed a relationship worthy of “strategic stability.” The US is familiarly cast not as a NATO ally to Europe, but a mediator “to mitigate the risk of conflict between Russia and European states.” It slams “European officials who hold unrealistic expectations for the war perched in unstable minority governments,” where popular desire for peace is trampled by censorship and the suppression of democracy (a false premise).

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/05/europe/trump-national-security-plan-europe-latam-intl

“The larger issues facing Europe include activities of the European Union and other transnational bodies that undermine political liberty and sovereignty, migration policies that are transforming the continent and creating strife, censorship of free speech and suppression of political opposition, cratering birthrates, and loss of national identities and self-confidence,” the document continues.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/europe-will-unrecognizable-20-years-due-immigration-white-house-strate-rcna247534

The mention of "migration" there points to Miller being a lead author.
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