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applegrove

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Sat Dec 6, 2025, 05:59 PM Saturday

Thomas L. Friedman: The 'Useful Idiots' From America Whom Putin Is Playing Like a Flute

🚨 '...on top of that an arbiter who tries to make a profit from each side in the process — as Trump has done. This is one of the most shameful episodes in American foreign policy, and the entire Republican Party is complicit in its perpetuation.'
🎁 link www.nytimes.com/2025/12/04/o...

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Thomas L. Friedman: The 'Useful Idiots' From America Whom Putin Is Playing Like a Flute (Original Post) applegrove Saturday OP
behind a paywall but... Skittles Saturday #1
It went into how war wasn't the same thing as real estate. applegrove Saturday #2
this is TRUMP we're talking about Skittles Saturday #3
The article says real estate is a positive sum game. War with an aggressor is zero sum. applegrove Saturday #5
Spreading that Friedman quote. blm Saturday #4
Unpaywalled version from a different syndicated outlet: Emrys Saturday #6
Thanks. applegrove Saturday #7
My pleasure Emrys Saturday #8

applegrove

(129,638 posts)
5. The article says real estate is a positive sum game. War with an aggressor is zero sum.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 06:14 PM
Saturday

blm

(114,395 posts)
4. Spreading that Friedman quote.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 06:05 PM
Saturday

Thomas Friedman:
'...on top of that an arbiter who tries to make a profit from each side in the process — as Trump has done. This is one of the most shameful episodes in American foreign policy, and the entire Republican Party is complicit in its perpetuation.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/04/opinion/putin-russia-ukraine-trump.html

Emrys

(8,885 posts)
6. Unpaywalled version from a different syndicated outlet:
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 06:57 PM
Saturday
Friedman: The ‘useful idiots’ from America whom Putin is playing like a fiddle

‘This is one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. foreign policy, and the entire Republican Party is complicit in its perpetuation.’


I am sure President Donald Trump and his envoys to Russia, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, sincerely want to stop the killing in Ukraine, but they are failing and will continue to fail as long as they persist in their naive view that this is just a big real estate deal and that their backgrounds in real estate give them an advantage. It is utter nonsense on multiple levels.

For starters, yes, you could say that Russian President Vladimir Putin is in the real estate business in Ukraine, but not in the way Trump or Witkoff or Kushner have been in the business. Putin is in the real estate business in Ukraine the same way Adolf Hitler was in the real estate business in Poland. Hitler coveted territory not to build a hotel or housing for profit to benefit the local residents. He, instead, coveted real estate to fulfill a nationalist fantasy. Ditto Putin. He has shown no interest in the welfare of Ukraine’s people.

In that kind of situation, having a bunch of “real estate deal guys” as America’s negotiators is a liability, not an advantage. You want a Henry Kissinger or James Baker-type statesman who understands the difference between real estate and war and peace. Real estate is a positive-sum game — both sides can profit from a well-struck transaction. And that is the goal. In war and peace, when one side holds fascist views and is the clear aggressor and the other side holds democratic views and is the clear victim, you are in a zero-sum game.

Or as Ronald Reagan famously put it when asked how the Cold War should end: “We win, they lose.”

https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/12/05/friedman-the-useful-idiots-from-america-whom-putin-is-playing-like-a-flute/
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