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global1

(26,354 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 09:41 AM 21 hrs ago

Could The 4%+ Rise In Consumer Xmas Spending This Year Over Last Have Anything To Do.....

with tariff's and the resultant higher prices for goods & products of this year's consumer goods over last year's prices.

Maybe the same amount or a lesser amount of goods sold were purchased by consumers this year - but total dollars spent were higher because the prices were higher this year over last because of the cost of tariff's was built into the prices.

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Could The 4%+ Rise In Consumer Xmas Spending This Year Over Last Have Anything To Do..... (Original Post) global1 21 hrs ago OP
That is exactly it. OldBaldy1701E 21 hrs ago #1
You don't need 37 dolls PXR-5 21 hrs ago #2
Its hard to believe the economy grew and no one is hiring Johonny 21 hrs ago #3
Of course, and the data shows it. Happy Hoosier 21 hrs ago #4
Big part of it. We should also ask: Who is doing the spending? Wounded Bear 21 hrs ago #5
I heard that the top 10% earners crud 21 hrs ago #6
There's probably some truth in that. yardwork 21 hrs ago #7
Of course it's due to tariffs Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #8
The median amount spent per household on xmas shopping would be more illustrative than the mean AZJonnie 20 hrs ago #9
It's not Fourth Quarter Christmas shopping. It's for the Third Quarter: July-September. hedda_foil 20 hrs ago #10

OldBaldy1701E

(9,990 posts)
1. That is exactly it.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 09:47 AM
21 hrs ago

They did that so they can then say that things were great because of that misleading number and they will not explain how they got it.

Because that would show just how bad things are compared to last year.

PXR-5

(563 posts)
2. You don't need 37 dolls
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 09:50 AM
21 hrs ago

when 5 higher priced ones will do 😆
And stop it with all those pencils, just sketch in B&W 😆

Johonny

(25,291 posts)
3. Its hard to believe the economy grew and no one is hiring
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:06 AM
21 hrs ago

Wall Street this morning doesn't appear to be buying what they're selling.

Happy Hoosier

(9,385 posts)
4. Of course, and the data shows it.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:13 AM
21 hrs ago

The vaunted rise in Black Friday spending was accompanied by FEWER actual purchases.

Wounded Bear

(63,767 posts)
5. Big part of it. We should also ask: Who is doing the spending?
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:17 AM
21 hrs ago

If the bulk of the spending is done by the top quintile, it means something different than if it was at the bottom.

crud

(1,190 posts)
6. I heard that the top 10% earners
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:18 AM
21 hrs ago

are the ones doing all the buying this year, not so much the rest of us.

yardwork

(68,884 posts)
7. There's probably some truth in that.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:24 AM
21 hrs ago

The very wealthy are buying luxury goods like mad. Conspicuous consumption is all the rage.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,871 posts)
8. Of course it's due to tariffs
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:24 AM
21 hrs ago

Let’s see the stats on the actual revenue generated by retailers, let’s the see the earnings reports on profits made over expenses.

AZJonnie

(2,695 posts)
9. The median amount spent per household on xmas shopping would be more illustrative than the mean
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:44 AM
20 hrs ago

And so would looking at how much was actually received by the consumer, not just how much they spent.

I went to buy a bottle of nice, brand-name fragrance for my partner, something I've done many an xmas. I'm used to seeing prices for the nice stuff for $90-$120. This year the nice stuff was in the $180-200 range. As we waited for our gifts to be wrapped by staff, I chatted with another customer, who was equally chagrined and ready to blame tariffs as I suggested to them.

hedda_foil

(16,896 posts)
10. It's not Fourth Quarter Christmas shopping. It's for the Third Quarter: July-September.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:28 AM
20 hrs ago
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