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AZ8theist

(7,131 posts)
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 04:53 AM Saturday

I'm putting 2 and 2 together....

The latest set of emails implicated Steve Tisch, co-owner of the NY Giants, with a relationship with Epstein.
To summerize those emails, they spoke about his "presents" which included girls of eastern European decent. Namely Ukranian or perhaps Russian. Asking whether they were "pros" or not. Unclear if these girls were under age or not. Clearly, there was trafficking going on, if you read between the lines.

Now, it has long been alleged Russia uses so-called "honey pot" women for blackmail and espionage activity.

Trump is ALL OVER the Epstein files.

Trump had his "Miss World" event in Moscow.

Trump has been financed from Russia for decades since his creditworthy status in the West is shit.

Allegations of money laundering from Russian oligarchs in Florida real estate. Shady deals overseas. The list is endless.

Does anyone else see where this "could" be going?

Multiple high powered individuals have been shielded from exposure in the TrumpStein files.
Complete anti-Trump flip-flops from Republicans, notably Lindsay Graham, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz, among others.
The NRA taking $$$MILLIONS from Russia.

This is not a "hoax".

This is Vladimer Putin OWNING Donald Trump.
This is Vladimer Putin having compromat on dozens of Republicans.
This is Republicans not lifting a finger to help stop the genocide in Ukraine inflicted by a meglomaniac.
This is Republicans not lifting a finger to stop a clear and present danger to America.

This is Trump kissing Putin's ass at every opportunity.
This is Russia destroying the United States of America from within.

And he didn't have to fire a single shot.

If I'm talking out of my ass, tell me why. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the smell test is pretty damning in my veiw.


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I'm putting 2 and 2 together.... (Original Post) AZ8theist Saturday OP
Oh, you definitely are NOT "talking out of your ass". llmart Saturday #1
I think Trump and Epstein started working with Putin debsy Saturday #11
Ever since we learned of Hillary's campaign Delmette2.0 Saturday #19
No but.... cannabis_flower Saturday #45
Trump and Republicans owned by and working for Putin Jimi du Ranty Saturday #2
I wonder mgardener Saturday #3
Yep! WmChris Saturday #8
Wasn't there a sheriff from Florida that had something to do with Epstein that Buddyzbuddy Saturday #4
Some of us added 2 and 2 and got 4 a long time ago. Irish_Dem Saturday #5
The bank wire transfers ... when they are finally released by Dept. of Treasury ... FakeNoose Saturday #44
Exactly. Irish_Dem Saturday #48
Remember this? 'Seven GOP lawmakers make a misguided trip to Russia' Joinfortmill Saturday #6
They were summoned by Putin debsy Saturday #13
Jeffrey Epstein claims he gave Russians insight into Trump Kid Berwyn Saturday #18
This is probably why he got "Epsteined" a year later FakeNoose Saturday #50
Guided by "Miss"es /nt dickthegrouch Saturday #35
On the Rebl2 Saturday #43
All roads lead to Putin...... lastlib Saturday #7
Vladimir Putin is well known for playing the long game. debsy Saturday #9
I'm going to go further PuraVidaDreamin Saturday #10
They are definitely evil debsy Saturday #14
I think this is ABSOLUTELY global. evolves Saturday #28
I remember being called a conspiracy nut slightlv Saturday #47
Live boys and dead women NBachers Sunday #52
You are on the money. Trueblue Texan Saturday #12
Remember Felix Sater when trump was first running for president..... IcyPeas Saturday #15
I do think the issue is not so much kompromat on Trump, tanyev Saturday #16
Trump was Epstein's business partner. One victim claimed Epstein was subordinate to Trump travelingthrulife Saturday #17
It's all about the math. yellow dahlia Saturday #20
Occam's razor is not talking out of your ass JT45242 Saturday #21
Yes, so much is there. But we can't blame Trump, a snake is a snake....but Dan Saturday #22
i been smelling it for years oldinmtdem92 Saturday #23
If this is what they're releasing imagine what they have not released yet. live love laugh Saturday #24
This is the really scary thing. Scrivener7 Saturday #33
Epstein sent a "model" to the Tisch School of the Arts at NYU Sanity Claws Saturday #25
Think back to the Steele dossier FalloutShelter Saturday #26
Using "talking out of my ass" and "smell test" in the same sentence rzemanfl Saturday #27
Sorry. Maybe one too many whiskeys last night......LOL! AZ8theist Saturday #34
You're forgiven! calimary Sunday #53
U nailed it Cherokee100 Saturday #29
You are making a summary popsdenver Saturday #30
You are definitely NOT... GiqueCee Saturday #31
To the list of high powered individuals who were regulars at Epsteins orgies you can add Autumn Saturday #32
Don't leave out supreme court justice Thomas, he was named too questionseverything Saturday #41
will anyone at warsh's confirmation hearing ask him about epstein rampartd Saturday #42
Duh, this has long been obvious, all so oligarchs, can have EVERYTHING they want....... joanbarnes Saturday #36
Occam's Razor hadEnuf Saturday #37
Why has there been snowybirdie Saturday #38
Here's what an FBI source said SamuelTheThird Saturday #39
Wow! How will we ever get rid of these people? Scrivener7 Saturday #40
You might even set forth the challenge: "Prove me wrong." Beartracks Saturday #46
Saw on threads - Re Rubio JustAnotherGen Saturday #49
Tell me something which wasn't obvious long ago... regnaD kciN Saturday #51
There's not one lawmaker who is able to make this case? Doodley Sunday #54
I think you could be right AZ8theist! FM123 Sunday #55
KGB so-called "honey traps" have been employed since the 1950s. AZ8theist Monday #56
K&R spanone Monday #57
2+2Whore Heftylefty Tuesday #58

llmart

(17,454 posts)
1. Oh, you definitely are NOT "talking out of your ass".
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 06:00 AM
Saturday

Hillary tried to warn us. What I still don't understand is why almost all Republicans in Congress would go along with every single thing Trump does since he doesn't have kompromat on all of them.

debsy

(816 posts)
11. I think Trump and Epstein started working with Putin
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 07:54 AM
Saturday

Because Putin has kompromat on both of them and used it to lure them in and train them to do what he does.

Putin: “see, donald and Jeffrey, how easy it is to obtain blackmail material from wealthy, powerful individuals? All you need are hotel rooms with hidden cameras and underage girls ( or boys, if they prefer)!”

That scenario is absolutely plausible and, in fact, likely what happened.

Delmette2.0

(4,478 posts)
19. Ever since we learned of Hillary's campaign
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 11:10 AM
Saturday

being hacked but the Republicans were left alone, I suspected Russia. I felt positive when Donald said"Russia if you are listening". Then someone on DU said something to the effect "everytime you shake Trump's tree, a Russian falls out."
It went from "Oh that's just Donald" to "What the f@ck".pretty fast I even signed up for the website "What the F*** happened today"
So, much of Russia, Russia, Russia has been not surprising to me.

cannabis_flower

(3,920 posts)
45. No but....
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 08:14 PM
Saturday

Some of them worried about losing campaign money or getting the kind of commercials Chip Roy is having run against him in Texas. I wonder if Trump’s name is still enough to get votes, even in Texas.

Jimi du Ranty

(45 posts)
2. Trump and Republicans owned by and working for Putin
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 06:04 AM
Saturday

This is stark evidence which bears repeating, and supports all the other evidence.

Thanks for the illumination!

WmChris

(664 posts)
8. Yep!
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 07:43 AM
Saturday

I've always thought she was a Putin plant. Why else would she attach herself to the orange train wreck. He has the appearance of wealth but many others with real wealth would pay for her arm candy and other talents without the obnoxious baggage he extudes.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,306 posts)
4. Wasn't there a sheriff from Florida that had something to do with Epstein that
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 06:11 AM
Saturday

was either under investigation or indicted for something and then ran off to live in Russia and is pushing MAGA talking points from Russia?
I'm sorry but my recollection is very vague about this but there may be somebody reading this that has more details and facts.

Somebody got into the Epstein mansion in FL. and cleared evidence out, flash drives, photos, and journals following that big raid when law enforcement left all of the evidence behind. That info is worth a lot of money and power.

Irish_Dem

(80,391 posts)
5. Some of us added 2 and 2 and got 4 a long time ago.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 06:28 AM
Saturday

Of course Epstein was being funded and assisted by others.
Of course Trump was supplying girls from eastern Europe and Russia.
Of course Putin gave him access to the pageants and girls.
Of course Putin already had his own sex and drug ring going.
Of course Epstein was videotaping all the rapes, sex, drugs.
Just like Putin does.

Of course rich powerful white males took part in the action
and now are beholden to Trump and Russia. And will cover it all up.

FakeNoose

(40,649 posts)
44. The bank wire transfers ... when they are finally released by Dept. of Treasury ...
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 07:19 PM
Saturday

... will also show multiple transactions between Epstein and various Russian oligarchs. They went through Russian banks and were never recorded by US banks until after Epstein received the cash.

He did business with oligarchs (and probably Putin) and handled their US investments for many years. Epstein also might have been the go-between for Putin to hand-off money to Chump .... if it ever went that far. We need to see those transactions, including the wire transfer memos. Epstein was in deep, we know that, but eventually he will lead us to Chump.

Irish_Dem

(80,391 posts)
48. Exactly.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:07 PM
Saturday

I think most of the documents have been destroyed.

But usually at least one clever person hangs on to a copy and puts it in a safe somewhere.
It is either worth a lot of money or a death sentence.

debsy

(816 posts)
13. They were summoned by Putin
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 07:57 AM
Saturday

So he could show them the footage of whatever deranged acts they performed that his network of criminals filmed.

Kid Berwyn

(23,605 posts)
18. Jeffrey Epstein claims he gave Russians insight into Trump
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:29 AM
Saturday

Newly released emails show the late convicted sex offender’s extensive network of foreign contacts, whom he corresponded with about Trump’s policy decisions.

By KYLE CHENEY and NAHAL TOOSI
Politico , November 12, 2025

Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.

In the email exchange, one of hundreds released Wednesday by congressional investigators, Epstein indicated he had previously talked about Trump with Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s forceful ambassador to the United Nations, before Churkin died in 2017.

“Churkin was great,” Epstein, the late convicted sex offender, wrote. “He understood trump after our conversations. it is not complex. he must be seen to get something its that simple.”

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-russia-emails-00648919

lastlib

(27,769 posts)
7. All roads lead to Putin......
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 07:23 AM
Saturday

As a former KGB agent, he would have access to intelligence on American elites (damn, it's hard to think of The Felon as an "elite".......), and he wouldn't be at all chary of using it to his advantage. Yes, Putin OWNS the US "president." And WE are paying the rent.......

debsy

(816 posts)
9. Vladimir Putin is well known for playing the long game.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 07:47 AM
Saturday

There is no Russia hoax. All these events that date back to the 1980’s weave a thick, smelly, orange, winter quilt!

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,493 posts)
10. I'm going to go further
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 07:54 AM
Saturday

It's a global cabal.

To consolidate power over!

It was likely entrapment over some who found their way onto 'the list' or material.

There was likely drugging of some 'innocent' powerful or famous at parties. Ruffie's or
something slipped into a drink. Inhibition gone. Girls or boys instructed (forced) to perform
or else. Photos/Videos taken. Powerful shown the evidence after the 'party'.

The blackmail follows.

Blackmail orders include bringing another 'innocent' into the fold.
And/Or VOTE this way or the blackmail material will be released,
Or whatever vile bidding the cabal demanded.

THEY are that evil!

evolves

(5,777 posts)
28. I think this is ABSOLUTELY global.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 01:31 PM
Saturday

It's why there is so much energy being put into the coverup...

slightlv

(7,561 posts)
47. I remember being called a conspiracy nut
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 08:39 PM
Saturday

when I used to bring up the fact it's a global cabal. Funny, it doesn't seem so much like CP now days, does it? Maybe people are finally opening their eyes?

Trueblue Texan

(4,258 posts)
12. You are on the money.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 07:55 AM
Saturday

I have been saying it and saying and have gotten all kinds of responses, but I still believe it is true. TSF was put into office to destroy the nation as Putin ordered.

IcyPeas

(25,141 posts)
15. Remember Felix Sater when trump was first running for president.....
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 08:33 AM
Saturday

... he told Michael Cohen that they could engineer it so trump would get elected as president.

So much of this information was available at the time I don't know he even became the nominee. Some shenanigans there. There's no way he won and not Hillary.

This is from Democracy Now from 8 years ago:

tanyev

(48,856 posts)
16. I do think the issue is not so much kompromat on Trump,
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 08:40 AM
Saturday

but who else do they have kompromat on? Trump’s personality does not react to threats of blackmail like normal people would. He is convinced he can get away with anything. And to be fair, his tactics of deny deny deny/retaliate retaliate retaliate have allowed him to get away with an astonishing amount of offenses that would have put other people behind bars for a very long time.

travelingthrulife

(4,799 posts)
17. Trump was Epstein's business partner. One victim claimed Epstein was subordinate to Trump
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:19 AM
Saturday

in the business.

Bessent is sitting on the financial records over at Treasury. Senator Wyden has been repeatedly requesting them.

yellow dahlia

(5,179 posts)
20. It's all about the math.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 11:49 AM
Saturday

That is one of my go to phrases.

It is about deductive reasoning and the ability to connect the dots. But ultimately it comes down to the math.

JT45242

(3,909 posts)
21. Occam's razor is not talking out of your ass
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 12:15 PM
Saturday

You only refuse to release sex trafficking files if you or someone that you owe favors to is in them.

Republicans have been screaming about Democrats having sex with men or underage girls ...always deflection of admissions of guilt.

Dan

(5,025 posts)
22. Yes, so much is there. But we can't blame Trump, a snake is a snake....but
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 12:18 PM
Saturday

We definitely should highlight the role of the GOP and their supporters in this mess we find ourselves in. Putin will be successful because of the GOP and the MAGA crowd - that we should never forget. There will come a day of accountability for all of them, the only question is before or after a revolution to claim our Country back.

Sanity Claws

(22,361 posts)
25. Epstein sent a "model" to the Tisch School of the Arts at NYU
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 12:58 PM
Saturday

Michael Popok interviewed Epstein survivor Lisa Phillips and Lisa talked about Epstein sending her to NYU and specifically the Tisch School of the Art, without showing qualifications, IIRC.


Steve Tisch is the son of Preston Tisch who donated mega bucks to create the school. Steve still donates to fund the school and is on its Board of Advisors.

This cabal has their hands in everything.

FalloutShelter

(14,264 posts)
26. Think back to the Steele dossier
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 01:04 PM
Saturday

and the secret server in Trump Tower....
He wasn't just a John he was a partner.

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
27. Using "talking out of my ass" and "smell test" in the same sentence
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 01:16 PM
Saturday

must violate some rule of writing, but you are dead on about everything,

popsdenver

(1,851 posts)
30. You are making a summary
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 01:48 PM
Saturday

of TRUTHS that everyone should have been paying attention to........but obviously weren't.

Complete compilation of everything Trump/Epstein/Putin.......and especially all the creepy oligarchs and politicians. Don't forget that Rush Limbaugh was doing much the same thing, but on a much smaller scale with his Jet taking people to Thailand....

GiqueCee

(3,606 posts)
31. You are definitely NOT...
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 01:58 PM
Saturday

... talking out of your nether portal. The proof of Trump's treachery and betrayal of his Oath of Office is voluminous, and much of it is the publicly recorded self-owns of a witless imbecile who's too stupid the realize that he's finally reached the end of his ability to bully and bullshit his way out of everything. He's going down, and he knows it, so he's going to take the entire country down with him out of pure, vengeful spite. His entire mis-administration is jam-packed with the most malevolent scum that the nation's Dark Side of malice and depravity could produce. When they are taken down, there had better not be a peep about "Truth & Reconciliation" with these traitors; they'd only turn around and do it all again. They have to be rendered so toxic that they can't get a gig scooping up poop in a dog park. That's after they get out of prison, if they ever do. As for ICE agents, not a one should ever see the light of day again. That goes double for Homan, Miller, Noem, and "Pinkie" Bovino.

Autumn

(48,855 posts)
32. To the list of high powered individuals who were regulars at Epsteins orgies you can add
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 02:04 PM
Saturday

William Barr, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Kevin Warsh, Trumps appointment to the Fed as of yesterday, and a few other pigs names that were released yesterday

rampartd

(4,153 posts)
42. will anyone at warsh's confirmation hearing ask him about epstein
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 05:08 PM
Saturday

bless 'em, but bernie and liz will want to ask this guy about interest rates.

joanbarnes

(2,100 posts)
36. Duh, this has long been obvious, all so oligarchs, can have EVERYTHING they want.......
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 02:19 PM
Saturday

INCLUDING the only thing that is really still taboo, dominating children for sexual pleasure.

hadEnuf

(3,561 posts)
37. Occam's Razor
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 02:42 PM
Saturday

It was clear at the beginning of this that Trump was a Russian asset. That has not changed, only the atrocities he has committed as a Russian asset have varied.
The 2016 election, the 2020 "stolen" campaign and the the highly improbable 2024 win all stink of more than just America's underbelly eaking out wins. "Russia" always seem to be a common denominator with Trump, Musk, several billionaires and many, many Republicans. Even a few Dems too, I believe?

Point is, it is Russia, Russia, Russia more than we realize.

snowybirdie

(6,606 posts)
38. Why has there been
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 03:18 PM
Saturday

no media attention to the Barron Trump phone call to London and an on line Russian girlfriend? He supposedly reported she was being attacked by her Russian boyfriend during the call. The next generation complicit too? Ed

JustAnotherGen

(37,764 posts)
49. Saw on threads - Re Rubio
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:09 PM
Saturday

His campaign funded the Steele Dossier. Email from Michael Wolfe to JE.

FM123

(10,344 posts)
55. I think you could be right AZ8theist!
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 05:22 PM
Sunday

So while I don't usually quote the British tabloids as a source (was reading another article about dear Catherine O'Hara) but one of their headlines did grab my attention: Epstein's sex empire was 'KGB honeytrap .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15516349/Epsteins-sex-empire-KGB-honeytrap-Paedophile-financier-Putin-Russian-girls.html

AZ8theist

(7,131 posts)
56. KGB so-called "honey traps" have been employed since the 1950s.
Mon Feb 2, 2026, 05:08 AM
Monday

No need to quote British tabloids. This is a well established KGB (now GRU) technique.

Heftylefty

(35 posts)
58. 2+2Whore
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 01:46 PM
Tuesday

Just a thought about honeypots: Ever notice that Wife #1 and Wife #3 were/are from former Soviet bloc countries?

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