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Bill and Hillary Clinton are in House Republicans crosshairs and the Democratic Party they once led isnt coming to the rescue.
A youthful vanguard of progressive office-holders unlikely to even recall the Clinton presidency, let alone defend the former presidents foibles, have largely opted against defending the once formidable pair, even as many regard the GOP effort to compel their testimony blatantly hypocritical and politically driven. Last week, in fact, nine Democratic lawmakers joined Republicans and voted in favor of holding the two-term president in contempt for defying a subpoena to testify as part of the panels investigation into the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Just three broke ranks on a similar vote against the former secretary of State.
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Its a remarkable rejection of The Comeback Kid, who was heartily cheered 18 months ago during the Democratic National Convention, as well as the partys 2016 presidential nominee, and demonstrates the lack of clout the two have inside the current Democratic Party. The partys effective abandonment of its longtime standard bearers provides a vivid illustration of how many members are eager to disassociate themselves from the Clinton brand. Both Clintons have said they had no knowledge of Epsteins crimes and they argue the subpoenas were not tied to a legitimate legislative purpose, rendering them invalid.
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The Clintons have accused Comer of pursuing partisan antics designed to put them in prison. In a post on X on Monday responding to the Oversight Committee, Clinton spokesperson Angel Ureña wrote that the former president and former secretary of State had negotiated in good faith and already told you under oath what they know, but you dont care.
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Still, several of Clintons contemporaries acknowledged a generational shift in loyalties as the political pressure of Comers subpoenas grew in recent weeks. There are fewer people in politics who were there during the Clinton years and during the Clinton revival of the Democratic Party. So there's less loyalty there, said Bill Daley, who served as Clintons secretary of Commerce and acknowledged that the former presidents ties to Epstein has been a problem
for a number of years.. That said, Daley didnt look kindly upon Democrats abiding by constitutional norms at a time when a Republican administration is frequently ignoring them.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/republicans-again-target-clintons-democrats-094500286.html
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Many forget that Clinton was the first Democrat to be re-elected since FDR. Should at least consider this
Easterncedar
(5,756 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:46 AM - Edit history (1)
And don't care to have their lives further wasted by these malicious morons. After all the hours of torture they have both spent being investigated over the years, with virtually nothing found, except ordinary adultery (not to excuse that, but not my business). FFS. If the files had anything real on Clinton that would have been released a year ago. In big bold unredacted headlines.
rampartd
(4,237 posts)i think the clintons deserve an opportunity to testify, in public, under oath.
comer and jordan might regret this.
if any dems are guilty of this stuff, or of covering up for these guys, now is the time to come clean or announce your retirement.
electric_blue68
(26,400 posts)EarlG
(23,488 posts)I'm not sure this is simply a case of Democrats deciding that they don't want to defend the Clintons and they're basically throwing them under the bus. I don't have any insider info that would prove otherwise, but here's another story from today that seems relevant:
(NBC News) WASHINGTON Facing the threat of being held in contempt of Congress, Bill and Hillary Clinton agreed Tuesday to testify before the House Oversight Committee about convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Democrats now say Republicans have established a precedent when it comes to Congress ability to subpoena and haul in past presidents, first ladies and family members under threat of criminal charges if they refuse a precedent they warn the GOP and Oversight Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., will soon regret.
"We are absolutely going to have Donald Trump testify under oath" when Democrats take back power, California Rep. Ted Lieu, a member of Democratic leadership who for years has been highlighting Donald Trump's ties to Epstein, told NBC News on Tuesday.
https://democraticunderground.com/1016422730
It seems to me that the Clintons genuinely feel like they don't have anything to hide here, and that by appearing they are setting a new bar -- they are going to have people, including people in the media, wondering why the Clintons are the only people being forced to do this, when people like Elon Musk (who is literally in the Epstein files begging to come and party on Epstein's pedo island) are not.
Donald Trump was out there yesterday telling reporters to move on from the Epstein files. By forcing the Clintons to testify, House Republicans are ensuring that the Epstein story is going to keep rolling along.
newdeal2
(5,037 posts)But not legally. If the Clintons do it willingly, dont expect Trump to do the same. SCOTUS will bail him out.
Raven123
(7,651 posts)My take is the Clintons can protect themselves. They called for the files to be released, so I assume they do not think they are at risk by what is contained. Whats to protect? There is no upside to getting in the middle of this. The GOP is going back to the boogie man/woman. It just shows they have no strategy.
Have a public hearing. Dems can use their time to show how often Trump is in the files. Go for it.
Kid Berwyn
(23,640 posts)The GOP will rue the day they tried to use trump's best friend to smear them.
AZJonnie
(3,214 posts)Where the stated theme is basically "Why did the DoJ let Epstein Get Away With Everything For So Long".
Along w/the Clintons, the presence has also been requested of: Alberto Gonzalez, Comey, Mueller, Holder, Lynch, Sessions, Barr, and Garland. I'm not sure who all has agreed thus far, how many were actually subpoenaed like B&H, but that was their list of who they want to see before them.
I have to admit, I'm interested to see what threads Democrats pull at. The GQP will be all about establishing that the DoJ is "weaponized" and "playing politics" and "protecting Democrats", and getting each of them to admit they never had real cause to ever go after Trump over his involvement with Epstein, but the Democrats are likely going to ask some good faith and illustrative questions.
lostincalifornia
(5,095 posts)critical of Clinton during his impeachment, and during this Epstein fiasco they have as a whole consistently said expose everyone involved with Epstein, unlike most of the republicans who have done everything in their power to delay and prevent release of any information of who has been involved with Epstein.
What would be refreshing is if Politico actually produced a piece explaining how the republicans in Congress have been going out of their way not only to carry the water for the sociopath in the white house, but to push the same lies and misinformation from the White House.
No Politico, THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, AND HAVE NEVER BEEN, IT IS THE REPUBLICANS, AND PUBLICATIONS LIKE YOURS THAT HAVE BEEN DISTORTING THE FACTS SINCE THE ATTEMPTED INSURRECTION AGAINST OUR DEMOCRACY SINCE JANUARY 6.
betsuni
(28,890 posts)lostincalifornia
(5,095 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,446 posts)Hillary held her own with Congress for 11 hours back in 2015, and there's absolutely no one better in politics at explaining complex situations in plain, understandable English than Bill.
Of course, there's no way around the fact that a man they did some business with in the early 2000s was in fact a sexual deviant. That doesn't imply any sort of guilt on their own behalf, and I haven't seen anything to date yet that indicates they were in any way complicit.
I really don't care much one way or another what some of the younger members of the party might take on it. But the Clintons themselves will be fine.
leftstreet
(39,509 posts)@JakeSherman
18h
"I think it's a shame," Trump says, of the House bringing Bill and Hillary Clinton into testify.
"I always liked him," Trump says of Bill Clinton.
"She's a very capable woman," Trump on Hillary Clinton.
"I hate to see it in many ways," Trump says.
Link to tweet
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Qutzupalotl
(15,743 posts)I wish her well. Like, I barely know her, but I wish her well.
Trump knows her bare-ly, but wouldn't recognize her with clothes on.
Prairie Gates
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It's like if people kept talking about the fucking Eisenhower administration in the early 90s.
Let it go.
Fuck's sake.
JHB
(38,059 posts)My own opinion is that Clinton had contact with Epstein because Epstein drew people with lots of money, which made Clinton's fundraising radar start pinging ka-ching, but if he took part in any of the other goings-on, he can roast.
And frankly, if that latter is the case, we'd actually gain votes by selling tickets to brush sauce on him.
Like I said, I don't think it goes there for him, but if I'm mistaken I'm not the least bit inclined to defend him. Wasn't thrilled with what he did in the 90s (WHILE REPUBLICANS MADE NO SECRET THEY WERE HUNTING FOR THINGS TO PIN ON HIM), but Monica was an adult and the Republicans were so painfully hypocritical.
Lovie777
(22,263 posts)but they still have strong support.
I would not be surprised if all of this, on the Dems side is a trap regarding the orange one.
comradebillyboy
(10,944 posts)If there was anything incriminating the pukes would have released it long ago. Bill was a womanizer but he seemed to prefer actual adult women.
JCMach1
(29,141 posts)For a petting.... I think we know how this is going to go.
Skittles
(170,197 posts)Monica wasn't a child, I was a sergeant in the Air Force at that age
3catwoman3
(28,888 posts)...you are not supposed to show people your underwear.
UTUSN
(77,302 posts)When the dust settled, and it took years, my paradigm changed to regarding "leaders" only as instruments in the service of the Agenda, not as idols, and I then came to think that he should have resigned and let GORE take over. I defended him to the last ditch in real time based on purely partisan terms. As of now, I'm repulsed at the MAGAts doing this (again), but have no idea what or any involvement Bill has, but defending him now is not my option, just he can look out for himself.
You were not defending Bill
You were fighting republican overreach
That you should always fight
As in this instance
UTUSN
(77,302 posts)lame54
(39,317 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(176,722 posts)Republican Rep. James Comer opened a door that has long been closed. His party might come to regret the decision.
As Clintons prepare to answer questions about Epstein, Trump balks
— Mike Walker (@newnarrative.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T19:34:10.950Z
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/as-clintons-prepare-to-answer-questions-about-epstein-trump-balks
So lets stop the games, Hillary Clinton added. If you want this fight, @RepJamesComer, lets have it in public. You love to talk about transparency. Theres nothing more transparent than a public hearing, cameras on. We will be there.
The hapless committee chairman hasnt yet responded, but in the meantime, theres also a larger context to all of this. The New York Times reported that no former president has ever been compelled to testify to Congress under subpoena, and Comer has set a precedent his party might ultimately come to regret.
Members of Congress dont necessarily think that is a good thing; they want the ability to bring in former presidents when they are relevant witnesses and may have something meaningful to say. And Mr. Comers move was a rare power play by a Republican lawmaker at a time when the G.O.P.-led House and Senate have ceded much of their power to the White House.
But his accomplishment also amounted to a remarkable use of government power to target a political adversary the kind seen more often in autocratic societies where a peaceful transfer of power is not a given because leaders fear ending up in prison after leaving office. And it was one that some experts said further chipped away at the countrys democratic norms.
Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, told the Times that like all powers of Congress or any other branch, these are powers that can be abused. Were living in a period of spectacular abuse of power......
It was against this backdrop that NBC News Tom Llamas reminded the incumbent president: Democrats are already saying if you bring President Bill Clinton and he has to testify, were bringing President Trump. Before the anchor could finish his question about this, Trump interjected.
Well, I think they might say that, you know? But theyve already brought me. See, Ive been brought, the president replied. They had me indicted, many, many times. Many, many times.
Like so many of the presidents comments, this didnt make any sense at all congressional Democrats had nothing to do with the many criminal charges Trump has faced though the response suggested hes not at all eager to answer questions about Epstein, even if subpoenaed in future years, and even if the Clintons cooperate.
trump may be worried about being called before congress after his term is up. I personally do not believe that trump will survive to the end of his term in order to be forced to testify. trump may be worried because he cannot conceive of dying
JBTaurus83
(993 posts)Will never be in front of Congress.
