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Botany

(77,008 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 08:09 AM Sunday

Thanx a lot Donny. Iran is hitting back and hitting back hard through out the Mid East.

* Iranian jets bomb US bases in Middle East

Iran says its air force pilots successfully bombed US bases in Gulf countries and the Kurdistan region of Iraq, according to the state news agency IRNA.
The Iranian army says pilots successfully struck the bases in several phases, adding that all "enemy military centres" in the region are within reach of the Air Force's fighter jets.

* Tel Aviv neighbourhood shows reach of Iran's missiles

In a residential neighbourhood in central Tel Aviv you can see the impact of where one Iranian ballistic missile hit.
It left one woman dead, the first reported fatality in Israel of this war.
The apartment block where she was living is blown out. Bulldozers are on the scene to clear up the rubble.
On the drive here, we saw explosions directly overhead as more Israeli interceptors took out Iranian missiles.
Israel’s air defence system has shot down almost all of Iran’s missiles. But some can still get through especially when fired in a concentrated barrage.

*. Explosions in Doha as Iran carries out retaliatory strikes in the Gulf

Explosions have also been heard in Dubai and Manama this morning, and the Oman state news agency is reporting a drone attack on its commercial port. Oman has been a key mediator in the US-Iran talks for years and had so far been spared Iranian attacks.
Qatar and some other Arab governments have strongly condemned the strikes and reserved the right to respond.
The Gulf states had made efforts to ease tensions with Iran in recent years, they worked hard to mediate a diplomatic solution to the crisis and have refused to let the US launch attacks from its bases in their countries.
But that wasn’t enough to prevent direct military strikes on their territory. And now with the violent death of Iran’s supreme leader, the future looks uncertain not only for Iran, but for the region.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn5ge95q6y7t

Congratulations Donny you have now put a target on any American any place in the world just
Imagine if you were a father or brother or a sister of one of the 50 or so school girls killed when
their school was hit by an American or Israeli missile and this still doesn’t stop the EPSTEIN investigations.









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Thanx a lot Donny. Iran is hitting back and hitting back hard through out the Mid East. (Original Post) Botany Sunday OP
Iran knew and prepared. They said they would do this! 👏👏👏 We need them to fight back like Ukraine Bread and Circuses Sunday #1
??? niyad Sunday #12
Iran has the right to defend itself. N/t AloeVera Sunday #13
What? PCIntern Sunday #18
I thought that was Trump's mantra. paleotn Sunday #21
Who's land did they steal? 31st Street Bridge Sunday #53
That sliver of land in the Mideast.... PCIntern Sunday #60
Bribes 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #67
I was using the word from the previous poster PCIntern Yesterday #68
So is Iran. So is Iraq. So is Arab Palestine. 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #69
They were supplying the drones that hit Ukraine orangecrush Sunday #19
So is China and North Korea. republianmushroom Sunday #63
To damage the Trump regime, perhaps. But that's an extreme case of.... paleotn Sunday #24
LOL at your post vs. your sig TheProle Sunday #48
I do hope ForgedCrank Sunday #51
Better question durablend Sunday #2
Targets All Along OC375 Sunday #3
Putin wants chaos, deflection, and leverage. 58Sunliner Sunday #16
Much of the ME, Saudi particularly, and Iran are sworn enemies. paleotn Sunday #37
Surprised OC375 Sunday #59
Wrong kind of Islam supposedly. paleotn Sunday #65
They can take some pot shots at our bases Takket Sunday #4
"But they can't do anything domestically." Botany Sunday #6
This "" johnnyfins Sunday #8
Thank you. It's common sense. hamsterjill Sunday #22
Well said. AZ8theist Sunday #25
Thank you. hamsterjill Sunday #31
The murder of those 50 school girls by an American or Israeli bomb or missile will produce 100s of ... Botany Sunday #27
I know. hamsterjill Sunday #29
Martyrdom in Islam Is very real. Botany Sunday #39
And America is less prepared than ever for domestic terrorism hamsterjill Sunday #43
Some have very, VERY short memories. paleotn Sunday #42
Very true. hamsterjill Sunday #44
With our DHS, led by the totally inept, what could possibly go wrong ? republianmushroom Sunday #64
We already see domestic mass shooters take out 50 people at a time NickB79 Sunday #7
Dream on orangecrush Sunday #20
You so sure about that? Where the hell does THAT assurance come from? paleotn Sunday #40
Too bad they can't hit Florida 31st Street Bridge Sunday #54
I don't know the logic of winning Iranians over when the Israelis and US bomb children schools............... Lovie777 Sunday #5
Trump don't care either durablend Sunday #9
And that's exactly why all this will fail. paleotn Sunday #46
For Trump, this is just a war game so he can play CIC... ananda Sunday #10
I think we have lived in this abusive relationship far too long. Hope22 Sunday #11
I hear that! ananda Sunday #56
Who knew the Middle East was such a tinderbox? Aristus Sunday #14
Let us say we have a President Aristus. Botany Sunday #17
President Aristus could never, ever happen. Aristus Sunday #50
One of the things that President Biden did that showed just how really smart he was was hiring a Botany Sunday #55
One thing he can't do is imagine it were his family who are dying. JohnnyRingo Sunday #15
OF COURSE he can't imagine that..... AZ8theist Sunday #30
He is a malignant narcissist MadameButterfly Sunday #35
I can see Israel killing those children. 58Sunliner Sunday #23
Bank robbery Whip-poor-will Sunday #32
Both guilty and equally depraved. 58Sunliner Sunday #49
Nah, they targeted a military base and missed. Imagine when AI is running things. RandomNumbers Sunday #38
Is there actual confirmation on who targeted what? 58Sunliner Sunday #47
I'm restating what I heard on a radio program (IIRC, that was where I got it) RandomNumbers Sunday #52
No reason to have our military there, or justifications for these attacks. 58Sunliner Sunday #57
I 100% agree. My point was that even with our current technology, and humans supposedly RandomNumbers Sunday #58
I agree, it isn't the bottom. 58Sunliner Sunday #61
If, as is being reported, Saudi Arabia was one of the drivers in Trump's decision to attack, it suggests that some parts Martin68 Sunday #26
Rachel Maddow yesterday on this MadameButterfly Sunday #41
The result of three angry men, trump, netanyahu, and Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud who pushed for this war. lostincalifornia Sunday #28
All to keep out of prison. Kid Berwyn Sunday #33
And the idiot believes that he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. Dave Bowman Sunday #34
No one could have foreseen this IronLionZion Sunday #36
No one gave the right answer yet, why Krasnov started a war with Iran gab13by13 Sunday #45
Just the start it will get worst. republianmushroom Sunday #62
"Iranian jets bomb US bases in Middle East" I doubt their air force has even tried to take off EX500rider Sunday #66

Bread and Circuses

(1,858 posts)
1. Iran knew and prepared. They said they would do this! 👏👏👏 We need them to fight back like Ukraine
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 08:12 AM
Sunday

PCIntern

(28,197 posts)
18. What?
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 10:40 AM
Sunday

They are a murderous regime hell-bent on destroying Western civilization and thought, killing everyone possible. That is their sworn mission in life.

This ain’t Ukraine.

31st Street Bridge

(170 posts)
53. Who's land did they steal?
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:33 AM
Sunday

Who have they imprisoned in a veritable Warsaw ghetto in Gaza?
How much money do they send to bribe congress?

I'll wait for the answers.

PCIntern

(28,197 posts)
60. That sliver of land in the Mideast....
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 12:42 PM
Sunday

The size of Vermont…

All those Arab billions and they wouldn’t invest in their “brethren” in Gaza. They had kicked what are now called the Palestinians out of their countries including but not limited to Jordan and sent them to disrupt Israel.

Yes, Jews lobby Congress, and for decades Congress never investigated the goings-on in the Catholic Church, and Roosevelt did not permit ships with Jewish refugees to dock in America, and your present President wants Muslims at the very least tossed out of the country and on and on. So the Jews decided to do what the cigarette companies, the auto industry, the steel industry, the insurance industry, and every other business interest does and contribute money to members of Congress. You don’t like it, lobby your Congressman or better yet, contribute money and bribe him or her into voting the way you like.

Oh yeah. Ooops.

31st Street Bridge

(170 posts)
69. So is Iran. So is Iraq. So is Arab Palestine.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 09:16 AM
Yesterday

Despite all the blood spilled by Likud fascists and their American stooges.

paleotn

(22,011 posts)
24. To damage the Trump regime, perhaps. But that's an extreme case of....
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 10:58 AM
Sunday

the enemy of my enemy is my friend. They're not our friends by any means and comparing a terrorist supporting state to Ukraine is more than a little insulting and obscene. Particularly since they've supplied some of the munitions that have killed Ukrainians.

Then again, I'm not so calcified in ideology that I can't see some benefit from all this. This will damage the Trump regime. It's a hell of a gamble with crappy odds. Let's just hope that damage can be contained to our regime alone.

ForgedCrank

(3,068 posts)
51. I do hope
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:31 AM
Sunday

you aren't being serious. The Iranians have been being held hostage for decades by their government, and collective intelligence claims they were preparing an offensive (again). We still don't know exactly how many thousands of their own citizen they murdered in the past month. the people running that government are (were) downright evil and tyrannical.
We can agree on our general feelings regarding Trump, but opposing every single action just because, is not a logical nor reasonable way to go about things. This call has been out for at least a decade now, including from many on our side of the isle. Hopefully Trump doesn't screw this up, but it's been a long time coming.

durablend

(9,170 posts)
2. Better question
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 08:16 AM
Sunday

If Iran did have the unredacted files and posted them, would TSF nuke them in retaliation?

OC375

(660 posts)
3. Targets All Along
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 08:22 AM
Sunday

Despite all their years of hard work staying on Irans good side, they got hit by Iran anyway when things got real. Iran didn’t care. Don’t see the whole ME rushing in to back Iran either. Putin does though.

paleotn

(22,011 posts)
37. Much of the ME, Saudi particularly, and Iran are sworn enemies.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:13 AM
Sunday

Have been off and on since the 7th century.

Funny how so many Americans think history started in 1776 and all cultures must conform to American ways of thinking. It didn't and they don't.

OC375

(660 posts)
59. Surprised
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 12:28 PM
Sunday

I was surprised so many are willing to attack Iran. I’d been under the misguided impression that an attack on Iran would bring the entirety of the ME down on anyone who dared. Turns out just Iran and some assorted terrorists jumping up. I was very ignorant.

paleotn

(22,011 posts)
65. Wrong kind of Islam supposedly.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 03:25 PM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Mar 1, 2026, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Iran is majority Shia. Saudi and the southern Gulf states are majority Sunni. Kind of like Catholics and Protestants only they're still shooting at each other. Culturally, Iran is majority Persian. Saudi and the southern Gulf states are Arabs. Their languages are very different. Most Iranians speak Farsi, a Persian language. Persian is Indo-European, and in some ways similar to western languages. Arabic is a Semitic language. A whole different linguistic family that ironically includes Hebrew. They have different cultures stretching back a couple millennia. Then there's the question of who owns the Persian Gulf. Arabian Gulf if you're in Saudi. The religious, cultural and political rivalry between Arabs and Persians (Iranians) stretches back to at least the Muslim conquest of Persia in the 7th century. Perhaps even further back. A long history of bad blood.

Takket

(23,626 posts)
4. They can take some pot shots at our bases
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 08:25 AM
Sunday

But the can’t do anything domestically. So drumpf really doesn’t care.

Botany

(77,008 posts)
6. "But they can't do anything domestically."
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 08:41 AM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Mar 1, 2026, 09:17 AM - Edit history (1)

Don’t count on that. I can think of a bunch of ways Iran could hit back at America itself and its
people both here and abroad. Iran has been funding, training, and supporting terrorist organizations
for years now.

hamsterjill

(17,407 posts)
22. Thank you. It's common sense.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 10:52 AM
Sunday

Good grief. Some people just don't see the writing on the wall when it's right in front of them.

Haven't we lived through this scenario before? Do we not remember the public beheadings that ISIS carried out? Do any of us really relish living through that kind of thing again?

Of course, they're going to retaliate and they will do it by whatever means are available to them. Why wouldn't they? So the question that *I* have for those who are saying "but they can't do anything domestically" is whether or not you really feel safe with the likes of Trump, Patel and Noem in charge of our "domestic" safety? I know that I don't feel any degree of comfort.

hamsterjill

(17,407 posts)
31. Thank you.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:05 AM
Sunday

I sure wish we weren't having to have this discussion. But it's a certainty unfortunately.

Botany

(77,008 posts)
27. The murder of those 50 school girls by an American or Israeli bomb or missile will produce 100s of ...
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:03 AM
Sunday

…. Iranians who now want to die for their murdered daughter, granddaughter, sister, neighbor, and so on.

Botany

(77,008 posts)
39. Martyrdom in Islam Is very real.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:13 AM
Sunday

Trump and Bibi have lit the fuse for Iranian Martyrs to extract their revenge on their citizens.

hamsterjill

(17,407 posts)
43. And America is less prepared than ever for domestic terrorism
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:17 AM
Sunday

We have a bunch of fucking clowns in charge. Trump, et al have no idea what they have started, much less be able to concentrate on keeping ordinary citizens within American borders safe.

On top of that, they don't CARE. Hell, if a suicide bomber took out a few Republicans but took out MORE Democrats, half of MAGA would think that was a good thing.

NickB79

(20,298 posts)
7. We already see domestic mass shooters take out 50 people at a time
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 09:12 AM
Sunday

For the cost of one AR and a case of ammo ($1000-$1500).

It's really not hard to see a scenario where dozens of Iranian agents or sympathizers carry out coordinated mass shootings across the US thanks to our lax gun laws.

We're deep into the age of unconventional, asymmetrical warfare now.

paleotn

(22,011 posts)
40. You so sure about that? Where the hell does THAT assurance come from?
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:14 AM
Sunday

More like whistling past the graveyard. They can touch us. That's not the goddamn question. The question is will they escalate that far?

Lovie777

(22,623 posts)
5. I don't know the logic of winning Iranians over when the Israelis and US bomb children schools...............
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 08:30 AM
Sunday

I know Bibi don't care since his RW group have killed and maim thousands of children in Gaza.

But, come on US - WTF.

paleotn

(22,011 posts)
46. And that's exactly why all this will fail.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:20 AM
Sunday

There's no better way to rally a populace to a common cause than having some foreign powers that few particularly like indiscriminately bombing the shit out of them. Their local differences get set aside for the duration. It's 1968 "hearts and minds" bullshit all over again. Why the hell can't Americans learn from the past!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ananda

(34,765 posts)
10. For Trump, this is just a war game so he can play CIC...
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 09:30 AM
Sunday

and outdo Obama.

Aint it nice to have a toddler in a sandbox in charge.

Hope22

(4,634 posts)
11. I think we have lived in this abusive relationship far too long.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 10:13 AM
Sunday

The people in position to restrain this monster need to stop enabling him. Take the keys to the bomb locker away already!!!

Aristus

(72,016 posts)
14. Who knew the Middle East was such a tinderbox?
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 10:30 AM
Sunday

And that all it would take to blow it up was a lit match?








Botany

(77,008 posts)
17. Let us say we have a President Aristus.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 10:37 AM
Sunday

Q. President Aristus do you think the United States should be involved in the running of the Iranian government?

A. No.

This had stay the hell out of it written all over it.

Aristus

(72,016 posts)
50. President Aristus could never, ever happen.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:28 AM
Sunday

I’m a pretty smart guy, extremely well-read on American and world history, well-versed in the U.S. Constitution, early-rising, hard-working, well-dressed, and I still don’t consider myself in any way qualified for the job.

If only the repukes had such high standards…

Botany

(77,008 posts)
55. One of the things that President Biden did that showed just how really smart he was was hiring a
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:40 AM
Sunday

Nobel Prize Winner, Francis Arnold, to vet any possible future member of Biden’s team on
science. As a result we 200 + million doses of vaccines for C-19 in 3 months and some great
policies and people too. Look @ the difference between Mayor Pete B. and RFK Jr.

JohnnyRingo

(20,762 posts)
15. One thing he can't do is imagine it were his family who are dying.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 10:31 AM
Sunday

It never will be.
Makes it easier when there's no empathy for the lives lost in achieving his half witted goals.

AZ8theist

(7,227 posts)
30. OF COURSE he can't imagine that.....
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:05 AM
Sunday

Because, first of all, he doesn't give a flying fuck about his family. He only cares about himself.

Secondly, his mental deficiencies, coupleted with his advancing senility, leave zero space his his demented brain for empathy.

Finally, everything he touches DIES. Businesses, people, the United States. It's all a pattern that's been repeated time and time again.

MadameButterfly

(3,962 posts)
35. He is a malignant narcissist
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:12 AM
Sunday

He literally doesn't have the brain structure for empathy. He doesn't really have empathy for his grown own children, just a sense of tribalism.
He actually enjoys the suffering of others. It's in his psychopathy. He is incapable of reflecting or restraining himself.
How bad will it have to get before someone can stop him?

58Sunliner

(6,294 posts)
23. I can see Israel killing those children.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 10:58 AM
Sunday

Bibi after all killed all those Palestinian children. Not much of a stretch to think he targeted that school.

Whip-poor-will

(37 posts)
32. Bank robbery
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:07 AM
Sunday

Isn't the bank robber getaway driver guilty like the shooter who pulled the trigger ?

RandomNumbers

(19,141 posts)
38. Nah, they targeted a military base and missed. Imagine when AI is running things.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:13 AM
Sunday

One story that got buried (besides the EPSTEIN FILES) is how Anthropic got ditched for not giving carte blanche for use of their product to mass surveil Americans OR to autonomously launch attacks. Sam Altman (Open AI) stepped up and said, hey, we'll let you do that!! (Think about that next time using ChatGPT.)

58Sunliner

(6,294 posts)
47. Is there actual confirmation on who targeted what?
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:24 AM
Sunday

I didn't see anything specific, but I did not research it either. Frankly would not surprise me if they both agreed on it.
That would explain the latest round of "investment" in Open AI. That is scary.

RandomNumbers

(19,141 posts)
52. I'm restating what I heard on a radio program (IIRC, that was where I got it)
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:32 AM
Sunday

But I don't believe even TSF or Bibi target schools directly ... except for Bibi in the case of Gaza, he is indifferent to something being a school or a hospital if so-called intelligence says that Hamas is hiding there. (tit-for-tat war crimes, and of course it is innocents who suffer, while the perps on both sides go free). I doubt that in this stage of the attack, there was any military reason to actually target this school.

So I easily accept that it was a miss of the intended target, much more readily than I think that a school was deliberately targeted.

58Sunliner

(6,294 posts)
57. No reason to have our military there, or justifications for these attacks.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:50 AM
Sunday

Yes it could have been a miss, but they targeted an area with a school and didn't care about the risk. Psychopaths are often motivated by sadism. Do you think Putin needed to bomb hospitals? He chose targets that would demoralize people.

RandomNumbers

(19,141 posts)
58. I 100% agree. My point was that even with our current technology, and humans supposedly
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:54 AM
Sunday

overseeing it, we STILL manage to miss the actual target and bomb a school - and TSF's admin wants to give AI this power. In other words, things could get far far worse than we are seeing now. (not diminishing the horrific evil of what we are seeing now ... just that it, sadly, is NOT the bottom.)

Martin68

(27,478 posts)
26. If, as is being reported, Saudi Arabia was one of the drivers in Trump's decision to attack, it suggests that some parts
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:03 AM
Sunday

Middle East welcome this war. We know Israel does. What worries me is the unpredictability of the outcome. It will destabilize and cause chaos throughout the region, and the winners and losers can't be predicted at this point. People won't be winners, but certain regimes will. When the dust settles, who knows what we're going to see in terms of a new balance.

MadameButterfly

(3,962 posts)
41. Rachel Maddow yesterday on this
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:15 AM
Sunday

said Iran's enemies in the Middle East have been bribing Trump and his children for years. Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia.
Foolish that they think this will work out better for them. But then, they had no interest in Iran becoming a democracy either.

lostincalifornia

(5,296 posts)
28. The result of three angry men, trump, netanyahu, and Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud who pushed for this war.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:04 AM
Sunday

Kid Berwyn

(23,975 posts)
33. All to keep out of prison.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:10 AM
Sunday

About the nicest thing I can say: Dimdonnie is a demented and perverted traitor.

gab13by13

(31,898 posts)
45. No one gave the right answer yet, why Krasnov started a war with Iran
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 11:20 AM
Sunday

He doesn't give a shit what the outcome is, doesn't give a shit if sleeper cells in the US kill Americans, doesn't care if Iran surrenders and elects a new government, Krasnov doesn't care about any of that.

The reason; it's another step to Krasnov's move to making America a dictatorship, another progression in the process. Krasnov can go to war with whoever he wants and whenever he wants, he doesn't even have to give a heads up to our allies.

Quit trying to rationalize war, go read Major General Smedley Butler's book, War Is A Racket.

EX500rider

(12,346 posts)
66. "Iranian jets bomb US bases in Middle East" I doubt their air force has even tried to take off
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 03:51 PM
Sunday

All the damage has been from ballistic missiles & drones, not the Iranian air force, what would they have used, their F-4 Phantoms or the F-14 Tomcats? All 50+ years old and more dangerous to the pilots.

They have (or did) around 20 old Mig-29B's but the IDF/USAF would swat those out of the sky way before they left Iran.
With all the IDF/USAF fighter/bombers over Iran you can bet their are several AWAC's near and a fighter cover over Iran.

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