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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf all the Middle Eastern countries who have given Jared money were to demand their money back unless
daddy-in-law stopped the bombing, could that end this clusterfuck?
Irish_Dem
(80,685 posts)surfered
(12,833 posts)GiqueCee
(3,839 posts)... religious justification for ruthless violence. They pay little, if any, attention to the teachings of the Prophet, or Jesus; they just want an excuse to chop somebody up.
The same kind of people infest this country as well. Virtually all the Founding Fathers were quite specific in their denial of any religious basis for the establishment of the United States, but that doesn't deter the rabid fanatics of the Christian Nationalists, or any of the Muslim or Hebrew factions that believe that their religious beliefs justify violence to achieve their ends, no matter how nefarious they may be. But it's always about power, which is just shorthand for total dominion over the lives of others.
They're all exceedingly tiresome.
UTUSN
(77,459 posts)Cheezoholic
(3,649 posts)They've got the firepower. We could've assisted but THEY should've done it. But they didn't for the same reason there will never be a democracy in the region. The monarchies gotta keep their foot on the necks of their people. Democracy, for all of its complications, tends to spread like a virus in a region if it gets established somewhere. There is 0 chance Iran will revert back to the republic it was in the 50's. This is why the countries in the region paid off FatAss too do this for them.
This will end in a mess with a fierce Iranian dicktater that shakes hands with Bone Saw et. al. Iran WAS the democracy in the Middle East that WOULD have spread to the countries surrounding it 70 years ago. WE shut that down and initialized the rise of monarchies (behind a cloak of Islamic Fundamentalism) in the region who took control of the oil and initially kicked foreign countries out.
This region is a cluster of our own making and this failed president and his cronies are re-enforcing it to enrich themselves. We were paid hitman in this pure and simple.
edhopper
(37,269 posts)that they are doing this at the behest of the Saudis?
GiqueCee
(3,839 posts)... if we meaning the USA hadn't agreed to help Britain depose the democratically elected Mossadegh, who refused to let the Brits lay claim to Iran's oil reserves, so they got the Shah, Reza Pahlavi, and his SAVAK, which made our ICE goons look like a bunch of Campfire Girls on a picnic. So Iranians who are not "Brown People", but Caucasians like us, if ya wanna get technical about it have very good reasons to distrust us.
But that's the kind of sordid history that Republicans want to erase.
ms liberty
(11,141 posts)It isn't just Netanyahu that wanted regime change in Iran. The Saudis et al just didn't want to do it themselves.