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question everything

(51,994 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:13 PM 16 hrs ago

Caught a clip of Tillis on Taper on CNN. He is still seething about the murder o the poor puppy

He still wasn’t done. He brought up that he recently read Noem’s 2024 book, “No Going Back,” and was disturbed by a passage about how she shot and killed her 14-month-old dog, Cricket. Noem describes Cricket in the book as “untrainable” and “less than worthless” after it ruined a hunting trip by attacking a neighbor’s chickens.

“I train dogs, alright?” the North Carolina senator yelled at Noem. “You are a farmer. You should know better. You should know that if you’re going out to a hunting lodge and you’re puttin’ pheasants out and you’re puttin’ dogs out, you don’t take a puppy out there!”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/thom-tillis-torches-kristi-noem-200337007.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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The current White House occupant, not having a pet, could not care less.

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Caught a clip of Tillis on Taper on CNN. He is still seething about the murder o the poor puppy (Original Post) question everything 16 hrs ago OP
Its an awful thing that she did BlueWaveNeverEnd 15 hrs ago #1
He was also furious that she did not have her goat gelded UpInArms 15 hrs ago #2
What can I say? MustLoveBeagles 15 hrs ago #4
good Skittles 15 hrs ago #3
Gov. Kristi Noem's dog killing was bad, but to really understand her, consider the goat pat_k 15 hrs ago #5
What a cruel person. Of course we have seen that she lacks any sense o empathy, of compassion question everything 15 hrs ago #7
Has Tillis heard about Renee Good or Alex Pretti? struggle4progress 15 hrs ago #6
Oh yes. From the same link question everything 15 hrs ago #8
Tillis is spouting nonsense - upon which he either has no real knowledge stopdiggin 14 hrs ago #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Marcuse 12 hrs ago #10

UpInArms

(54,705 posts)
2. He was also furious that she did not have her goat gelded
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:24 PM
15 hrs ago

and killed him because he was a stinky Billy goat

Told her in no uncertain terms that it was her failure, not the animals

pat_k

(13,074 posts)
5. Gov. Kristi Noem's dog killing was bad, but to really understand her, consider the goat
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:26 PM
15 hrs ago
https://oklahomavoice.com/2024/05/10/gov-kristi-noems-dog-killing-was-bad-but-to-really-understand-her-consider-the-goat/

Emphasis mine

... the focus on Cricket makes sense, because we can all see that Noem could’ve taken the dog to a shelter and given it another chance at life.

But if you’ll hear me out, I want to tell you why Cricket’s fate is the wrong place to focus your attention.

If you really want to understand Kristi Noem, you need to consider the goat.

‘I spotted our billy goat’

After Noem made the death march to her farm’s gravel pit, where she shot Cricket, she was apparently still in an uncontrollable rage.

“Walking back up to the yard, I spotted our billy goat,” Noem wrote.

The nameless goat’s only sin in that moment was being in Noem’s field of view.

In the book, Noem tried to justify her snap decision to kill the goat by writing that it “loved to chase” her children and would “knock them down and butt them,” leaving them “terrified.” The animal also had a “wretched smell.”

But apparently none of that had been a big enough problem to do anything about it. Not until Noem got angry enough to kill a dog and decided she needed to kill again.

Noem says she “dragged” the goat to the gravel pit, “tied him to a post,” and shot at him. But the goat jumped when she shot.

“My shot was off and I needed one more shell to finish the job,” she wrote.

She studiously avoided saying she wounded the goat with the first shot, but that’s the implication.

“Not wanting him to suffer,” she added — apparently experiencing her first twinge of feeling, after saying that killing the dog was not “pleasant” — “I hustled back across the pasture to the pickup, grabbed another shell, hurried back to the gravel pit, and put him down.”

The goat story not only reflects a disturbing lack of self-control, but also raises a question of law.

The crime of animal cruelty
Noem has defended her shooting of the dog, citing legal justification for her actions. She’s likely referencing a state law that exempts from the definition of animal cruelty “any reasonable action taken by a person for the destruction or control of an animal known to be dangerous, a threat, or injurious to life, limb, or property.”

Cricket killed a neighbor’s chickens and “whipped around to bite” Noem when she intervened; therefore, by Noem’s logic, her killing of Cricket was legally defensible. She’s probably right, legally speaking.

But what about the goat?

Sure, it chased children, butted them, and smelled bad. “So, a goat,” Stephen Colbert deadpanned during his Monday monologue on “The Late Show,” speaking for everybody who’s ever been around goats. If those traits meet the legal definition of “dangerous, a threat, or injurious to life, limb, or property,” killing any goat would always be legally justified.

In reality, what Noem did to the goat — dragging it to a gravel pit, tying it to a post, shooting at it once, leaving to get another shell, and shooting it again — sounds an awful lot like the legal definition of animal cruelty. That definition in South Dakota law is “to intentionally, willfully, and maliciously inflict gross physical abuse on an animal that causes prolonged pain, that causes serious physical injury, or that results in the death of the animal.”
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question everything

(51,994 posts)
7. What a cruel person. Of course we have seen that she lacks any sense o empathy, of compassion
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:02 PM
15 hrs ago

struggle4progress

(125,954 posts)
6. Has Tillis heard about Renee Good or Alex Pretti?
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 06:48 PM
15 hrs ago

The puppy tale was a flashing red light at the time but we've since seen her predictable escalations -- posing as a dominatrix at CECOT, lying about Americans shot in the face or in the back, ignoring recent reports of criminal negligence leading to the death of Nurul Amin Shah Alam in Buffalo NY or Emmanuel Damas in Florence AZ

Noem published her doggy story almost two years ago, and it got publicity at the time. That didn't keep Tillis from voting to confirm her

question everything

(51,994 posts)
8. Oh yes. From the same link
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:06 PM
15 hrs ago

“The fact that you can’t admit to a mistake which looks like, under investigation, is gonna prove that Ms. Good and Mr. Pretti probably should not have been shot in the face and in the back!” Tillis shouted. “Law enforcement needs to learn from that! You don’t protect them by not looking out for the facts!”

stopdiggin

(15,312 posts)
9. Tillis is spouting nonsense - upon which he either has no real knowledge
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 07:47 PM
14 hrs ago

- or perhaps, in this case, doesn't particularly care. (veracity and a regard for real fact not being among major concerns in a good deal GOP engagement ... )

(and - even though excoriating Noem stands as high entertainment)

But bringing a 14 month old dog on a 'hunt' is not at all uncommon practice. Just isn't. Now, what kind of 'conditioning' or training this animal had prior to this first outing - obviously bears heavily on this - and equally obviously, I have no way of addressing. And - regardless of which - none of this stands to make Noem any kind of 'owner' or dog person ... But, just on the face of it - at least regarding dogs and hunting - Tillis talking out of his butt ... (again)

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