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PeaceWave

(3,232 posts)
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Quiet Em

(2,864 posts)
1. The first casualty of war is the truth
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 09:27 PM
Saturday

First, I want to make it clear that I would never believe anything that comes from the Government of Iran, just like I would never believe anything coming from Putin or Russia. I'm certain this is true of most Americans.

The problem we are facing today is, many people do not believe anything that comes from the con artist and his administration.

Add in all the disinformation that flies around Elon's cesspool on top of this, we are in very trying times when it comes to garning facts and truth.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,948 posts)
2. I wonder if Hegseth will suddenly remember the Geneva Conventions if there are US POWs?
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 09:53 PM
Saturday

Or does he also only like war heroes who don’t get captured?

Melon

(1,469 posts)
3. Uhhhh...how? There are no troops in Iran.
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 09:59 PM
Saturday

Johnny2X2X

(24,107 posts)
4. My first thoughts too
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 10:22 PM
Saturday

This administration is lying. Americans are being killed or captured and they are covering it up. And we may have boots on the ground already.

Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #4)

NickB79

(20,307 posts)
11. I'd be shocked if we DIDN'T have special forces on the ground
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 11:39 PM
Saturday

WarGamer

(18,548 posts)
6. Tehran Tom went to the Baghdad Bob School of Reporting.
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 10:40 PM
Saturday

MustLoveBeagles

(15,982 posts)
7. Neither side has any credibility
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 11:08 PM
Saturday

What am I supposed to believe?

Maru Kitteh

(31,645 posts)
10. This is my feeling as well. I rely on the BBC, AP, Reuters
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 11:36 PM
Saturday

and a tiny handful or independent media sources but I am very cautious about those. I start by assuming most everything else I see has something to sell me, including this. But I also fully expect the current regime of this country to lie and obfuscate as much and and as often as possible.

Hugin

(37,810 posts)
12. Safe bet.
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 11:41 PM
Saturday

Critical thinking… The truth is somewhere in the middle as is true for most conflicts of any sort.

sarisataka

(22,598 posts)
8. This claim should be extremely easy
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 11:14 PM
Saturday

for Iran to prove. Allow the Red Cross/Crescent to see the POWs and bring proof they exist and are alive.

Renew Deal

(85,000 posts)
9. It should be pretty easy for the Iranians to prove that
Sat Mar 7, 2026, 11:17 PM
Saturday

Melon

(1,469 posts)
18. It's not going to happen.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:16 AM
Sunday

You can’t just lose troops. Not even SF troops.
The claims of hundreds dead etc are not possible. There would need to be 10’s of thousands keeping it quiet. The bases are large but tight. People just don’t disappear unnoticed. The troops on most basis can literally call home often. A captured or killed troop would be known and out via internet and calls almost immediately. They try and lock things down for hours until family is notified, and that doesn’t even always work.

Melon

(1,469 posts)
13. We l know this is made up. The Iranians restrict
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:29 AM
Sunday

Information to their populace and feed them what ever perception they want. The people have no ability to dispute anything so the leadership believes that anything they say will be accepted as fact.
The difference now is they are releasing this BS to the world not under their control.

Quiet Em

(2,864 posts)
14. Right. Just like what is happening here in the US
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:02 AM
Sunday

thanks to the con artist and his cult.

Melon

(1,469 posts)
16. Except here I can just change to a different news source. Fact checking is being done by a lot of sources.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:10 AM
Sunday

Iranian people are historically stuck. That’s why the Baghdad Bob mentality we saw in past Middle East conflict just stands out. When you have open media even the families would be reaching out to the news if there loved ones were missing or dead.

fujiyamasan

(1,617 posts)
15. While I wouldn't take anything by coming from either side at face value
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:08 AM
Sunday

After Hogshit basically saying the US wouldn’t abide by rules of engagement, I wouldn’t be surprised if Iran says “fuck the Geneva convention”. There’s no expectation of humane treatment at this point. Then again we saw Abu Ghraib so don’t be surprised at further atrocities.

DET

(2,480 posts)
17. Vietnam Redux (nt)
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:11 AM
Sunday

JI7

(93,507 posts)
19. I don't trust either side on what the truth is
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:21 AM
Sunday

Boo1

(317 posts)
20. If Iran had captives
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:29 AM
Sunday

They would have them on TV already.

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