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everyonematters

(4,109 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:33 AM Sunday

Today's NBC News poll.

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Independent's view of the two major parties:
Democrats 13% favorable
Republicans 16% favorable

According to Gallup's latest poll independents make up 45% of the electorate. The party that can convince these voters that they are going to make a positive difference in their lives, can become the dominant party. Democrats need to expand their appeal beyond the base.

In Texas, Talarico won the Democratic primary because he appealed these voters. He didn't make it all about the Republicans; he made it about them.

Somehow in recent decades the Democratic Party became less about winning elections and making a difference in people's lives, to more about just belonging, causing the problem of not relating to the rest of society.

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Today's NBC News poll. (Original Post) everyonematters Sunday OP
Yeah that always works so well NoRethugFriends Sunday #1
So so-called Independents displacedvermoter Sunday #2
Same here PatSeg Sunday #7
Sunday Morning Gasbags displacedvermoter Sunday #8
Perfect description PatSeg Sunday #13
Perfect description PatSeg Sunday #14
Q1. Obvious, plodding, overgeneralized question. A1. Regime talking point. hatrack 14 hrs ago #50
And the same assortment of dumb ass lying ad campaigns to convince them they are smart to vote for the GOP. mdbl Sunday #16
Yes, indeed! displacedvermoter Sunday #17
It's Soviet style propaganda straight out of Russia Walleye 14 hrs ago #58
Ding ding Ferrets are Cool 14 hrs ago #53
Well if Democrats would quit DenaliDemocrat Sunday #3
Independents are not all "moderates" Fiendish Thingy Sunday #5
Some might say guns are a "Social Justice" issue displacedvermoter Sunday #11
Guns are a losing issue DenaliDemocrat Monday #18
Sorry about your Browning displacedvermoter Monday #24
See, it's just this attitude DenaliDemocrat Monday #25
I hear you. Omnipresent Monday #28
Yes. And it's affects a TINY fraction of people DenaliDemocrat Monday #32
I still feel bad that your Browning takes precedent over lots of other issues displacedvermoter Monday #36
I actually believe DenaliDemocrat Monday #38
I actually own a Bushmaster AR 15 displacedvermoter Monday #40
I don't own an AR15 DenaliDemocrat Monday #42
I don't personally care how proficient you are with it....it should be illegal to own a weapon of mass Ferrets are Cool 14 hrs ago #54
It (2nd Amendment) is supposed to displacedvermoter Monday #44
I have absolutely no idea WTF DenaliDemocrat Monday #46
I believe I said NRA types claim they need displacedvermoter Monday #47
I guess, except DenaliDemocrat 15 hrs ago #48
Lighten up, Francis. LuvLoogie 10 hrs ago #77
We can stand up for your right to own a gun, at the same time that we stand up for transgender rights to be full citize Walleye 14 hrs ago #59
What's wrong with unisex rest rooms if the door locks from the inside? The Wizard Monday #26
There is nothing wrong with them DenaliDemocrat Monday #33
Uh huh NoRethugFriends 9 hrs ago #80
Nice try DenaliDemocrat 4 hrs ago #86
Oh you're a supreme Court advocate now. NoRethugFriends 2 hrs ago #87
False dichotomy; Americans do not like guns. jimmy the one Monday #35
I reject your false narrative. DenaliDemocrat Monday #39
People can still buy these -banned guns- legally jimmy the one 10 hrs ago #76
My disabled spouse and i depended on unisex bathrooms thucythucy 10 hrs ago #78
Been saying for decades Cosmocat Monday #19
Add lowering speed limits to 2 Polybius Monday #20
Problem with taking the bait exboyfil Monday #27
Just curious. How do I discern rare social issues from social justice? Raven123 14 hrs ago #51
Is this the Gallop poll that stopped doing polls that unfavorable to Trump? Enough said. It's a new reality out there. dem4decades Sunday #4
A good PR campaign would help us a lot. And it's not hard to do. Scrivener7 Sunday #6
Define "Independent" usonian Sunday #9
Gallup is not reliable SamuelTheThird Sunday #10
There is no such thing as an kacekwl Sunday #12
The current state everyonematters Sunday #15
The problem is the Americans and their selfishness Keepthesoulalive Monday #31
Too many Americans are dumber than a brick sandwich 31st Street Bridge 14 hrs ago #57
Definitely Keepthesoulalive 8 hrs ago #85
The big problem is wages. everyonematters 13 hrs ago #69
When I see a cop he doesn't give a damn how much money I make Keepthesoulalive 8 hrs ago #84
The problem is always messaging Takket Monday #21
T H I S Cosmocat Monday #22
BUT this has been an issue for decades. We took Scrivener7 Monday #30
It is not a messaging problem. It is a trust problem. everyonematters 13 hrs ago #67
What bs. ananda Monday #23
Democrats need to stop edging to the right every time an election doesn't go their way. sboatcar Monday #29
Is there any evidence for that? The Revolution Monday #37
Take a look a John Fetterman sboatcar 14 hrs ago #49
? everyonematters 13 hrs ago #64
It started in 1984 Gore1FL 14 hrs ago #52
Joe Biden The Revolution 11 hrs ago #73
Tax rates for the top bracket are less than 70% Gore1FL 10 hrs ago #75
I don't think that it is a problem of left or right. It is problem of connecting. everyonematters 13 hrs ago #65
Yes, agreed The Revolution 12 hrs ago #71
I don't think it is a problem of right or left. It is a problem of connecting. everyonematters 13 hrs ago #66
Right on schedule Cirsium Monday #34
Time to get with reality. everyonematters 13 hrs ago #63
Right! Cirsium 11 hrs ago #74
I guess that's why they are self-described Independents? Zambero Monday #41
That is because they are disgusted with Trump, not because they believe in us. everyonematters 13 hrs ago #62
Exactly Zambero 13 min ago #88
No third party,. Republican/Independent/non-voters aren't secretly socialist/progressive populists yearning to rise betsuni Monday #43
Not enough. The big issue is wages. everyonematters 13 hrs ago #61
Whose wages? Seattle voted for a $15 minimum wage in 2014. betsuni 9 hrs ago #82
No they don't know it. When was the last time they even put it up for a vote? everyonematters 8 hrs ago #83
Huh. Democrats polling at 13 percent? Wednesdays Monday #45
They are voting for us because they are disgusted with Trump, not because they believe in us. everyonematters 13 hrs ago #60
They know what's on the table Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #68
The big problem is wages. Too many people are struggling, and they don't see either party making a everyonematters 13 hrs ago #70
Except this one Demixs 9 hrs ago #81
The number of "ammosexuals" that are in our society is just weird...and dangerous. walkingman 14 hrs ago #55
When voting there are only two choices, and we need to be the better choice somsai 14 hrs ago #56
These independents are lying they are really repukes and are too embarrassed to admit it! kimbutgar 11 hrs ago #72
I'm skeptical of arguments which include throwing marginalized people under the bus LuvLoogie 10 hrs ago #79

displacedvermoter

(4,250 posts)
2. So so-called Independents
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:42 AM
Sunday

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Don't really like either party, and can't tell the difference, and so again we have to wait until the very last second to determine which ad campaign is the most effective come November?

And we will still have the same assortment of dumb ass Independent and Undecided voters on panels telling us they don't know enough about the candidates to be able to discern between a fascist and a progressive.

God I hate Sunday talk shows and the drivel they put forth


hatrack

(64,732 posts)
50. Q1. Obvious, plodding, overgeneralized question. A1. Regime talking point.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:53 AM
14 hrs ago

Q2. Another obvious, open-ended question.
A2. Regime talking point, but expanded with additional drippy, useless verbiage.

Q3. Softball question, i.e. "How does the president feel about X?"
A3. Regime talking point, shot through with folksy bullshit/emotional bullshit/lying bullshit.

Q4. Invitation to lie and repeat regime talking points at greater length.
A4. Expanded talking point repetition, but with personal attacks on (1) opposition politicians (2) ethnic or national minorities (3) voters who did not support Trump.

"Well, I'm afraid we're out of time!"

mdbl

(8,564 posts)
16. And the same assortment of dumb ass lying ad campaigns to convince them they are smart to vote for the GOP.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:28 PM
Sunday

It always seems to work on certain groups so they repeat it every election cycle.

displacedvermoter

(4,250 posts)
17. Yes, indeed!
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:54 PM
Sunday

Not to mention our own batch of political consultants, rehashing ideas that worked for Clinton and Obama. Not working so well now.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
3. Well if Democrats would quit
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:52 AM
Sunday

1) taking the bait on social issues that are rare and set to basically bait them

2) quit putting losing agendas (yes, I’m talking guns) At the front of the platform and

3) focus on economic and social JUSTICE issues - they would win

We ALWAYS take the bait. ALWAYS

Fiendish Thingy

(22,901 posts)
5. Independents are not all "moderates"
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:03 AM
Sunday

The data I have seen, including Pew Research surveys with sample sizes in the tens of thousands, show that the majority of moderates (and actually all Americans) support progressive policies when they aren’t identified with a particular party.

This includes sensible gun control laws, as well MFA, reproductive rights, LGBT rights, raising the minimum wage and raising taxes in billionaires.

The only consistent exceptions are the narrow wedge issue of trans teens in sports and immigration, although opinions on the latter have changed significantly over the past year.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
18. Guns are a losing issue
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 01:07 AM
Monday

Americans like guns. I own guns. I believe in sensible gun laws. We are promoting some fairly extreme gun laws. Colorado passed a law that will make my Browning Auto Five illegal. That’s bad. Really bad. It’s going to hurt the Dems in the next election. It’s a losing battle.

Unisex bathrooms = losing battle. Leave it alone. It’s a minor issue. Worry about it after we get some economic reforms.

We know it’s a snake and we always pick it up.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
25. See, it's just this attitude
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 10:59 AM
Monday

That makes us lose. The condescending snide remarks. My Brownong Auto Five has been around for 75 years. Along with the Remmington 1100 they are probably only second to the Remmington 870 as iconic shotguns. How many pheasants have been taken with them? Countless.

This is the shit that makes us lose.

Omnipresent

(7,411 posts)
28. I hear you.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 11:13 AM
Monday

Before the 2024 election, i kept hearing people online and in person expressing themselves about not wanting men in women’s sports.

That turned out to be a “wedge issue” that helped drive voters to the polls…to vote for republicans.
The party did nothing to dispel this talk. All that was said is Kamala has momentum.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
32. Yes. And it's affects a TINY fraction of people
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 12:56 PM
Monday

That probably needs to be addressed on a 1 on 1 situation. Each case is unique. Each case deserves its own scrutiny. That’s all that has to be said “It’s complicated and each case should be examined and evaluated on its own merit”.

As for Kamala, California Democrats aren’t winning Nationwide elections. It’s not going to happen

displacedvermoter

(4,250 posts)
36. I still feel bad that your Browning takes precedent over lots of other issues
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 02:02 PM
Monday

And besides, I thought it was just determined that Harris lost because she was pro-genocide, unlike her opponent who was opposed to war in general.

And her sex and race likely had nothing to do with, either, I think you are saying.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
38. I actually believe
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 02:39 PM
Monday

Being from California was the #1 issue. Not race or gender.

As for my gun, yes. I live in an area where we have less than 2 people per square mile - it’s still classified as the frontier.

I’m sorry that you don’t take the Bill of Rights seriously and are willing to give up your rights. The Supreme Court ruled (and I believe correctly) the Second Amendment is an individual right, because the first ten kind of are geared to that paradigm.

displacedvermoter

(4,250 posts)
40. I actually own a Bushmaster AR 15
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 03:04 PM
Monday

And as a former USAF security policeman am extremely proficient with it, and I take the entire Constitution to be a sacred document I swore to uphold.

And as Charles Pierce says regularly, of course it was not about race, it's never about race.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
42. I don't own an AR15
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 03:40 PM
Monday

Because I have no use for it. I DO however own a .338 RUM that shoot a 250 grain bullet at 2900 fps. When you live where the bears are as big as 4H steers - size matters.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,838 posts)
54. I don't personally care how proficient you are with it....it should be illegal to own a weapon of mass
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:01 AM
14 hrs ago

distruction.

displacedvermoter

(4,250 posts)
44. It (2nd Amendment) is supposed to
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 04:39 PM
Monday

protect us from unconstitutional infringements, right? Don't see a lot of serious 2nd Amendment enthusiasts up in arms -- pun intended -- as we see all manner of criminal and extra legal activity being carried out by our government, in the same fashion we saw them screaming when Obama was going to take away their rights, which he never planned to do. Why is that, do you think?

Not about race, though, it is never about race

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
46. I have absolutely no idea WTF
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 07:57 PM
Monday

You are trying to convey. That was not coherent. Care to actually string a few cogent sentences with actual context together?

displacedvermoter

(4,250 posts)
47. I believe I said NRA types claim they need
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 08:04 PM
Monday

To keep their guns to protect us from the government, but it seems to be the case only when they are afraid of black leaders and women they are not inclined to trust. I believe most gun humpers are racist cowards who don't seem as concerned with Trump and ICE fucking with society.

Plain enough, coherent, clear?

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
48. I guess, except
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:22 AM
15 hrs ago

I’m not an NRA member. I’m just a guy who resents dumb gun laws that outlaw a gun that has been carried afield by 2.7 million pheasant and quail hunters because dumb asses make sweeping legislation that appears to be poorly written but just MIGHT have a hidden agenda. These are the same geniuses who want to reserve the BLM land for bison (that they will never go see anyway) while we are paying $7/lb for hamburger.

Walleye

(44,553 posts)
59. We can stand up for your right to own a gun, at the same time that we stand up for transgender rights to be full citize
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:14 AM
14 hrs ago

Democrats support the whole constitution we’re not like cafeteria Catholics

The Wizard

(13,688 posts)
26. What's wrong with unisex rest rooms if the door locks from the inside?
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 11:09 AM
Monday

I see them everywhere with no issues.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
33. There is nothing wrong with them
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 01:00 PM
Monday

However, there is also nothing wrong with separate men and women’s, especially consider urinals speed up things for men, thus allowing smaller bathrooms with fewer stalls.

It doesn’t need to be politicized. Honestly, it just needs to be let go.

NoRethugFriends

(3,736 posts)
80. Uh huh
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 02:25 PM
9 hrs ago

You know, most men pee at urinals facing the urinal.
So unisex with urinals is fine.
Oh, and I don't give a damn about your high-powered guns. Are they part of a militia, as in the Bill of rights?

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
86. Nice try
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:16 PM
4 hrs ago

Supreme Court has ruled it’s an INDIVIDUAL right, as are all the Amendments in the Bill of Rights. They say what the GOVERNMENT CANNOT do to you.

I have no idea what facing the wall has to do with unisex bathrooms. Are you okay?

NoRethugFriends

(3,736 posts)
87. Oh you're a supreme Court advocate now.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:41 PM
2 hrs ago

In case you can't figure it out, if the guy is facing the urinal any woman who comes into the restroom will not see anything but the back of the guy. I'm sure she would faint if she saw the front though.
You are transparent.

jimmy the one

(2,794 posts)
35. False dichotomy; Americans do not like guns.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 01:47 PM
Monday

You: Americans like guns. I own guns.

I reject this premise. Only 32% of Americans personally own a gun, so the solid majority do not.
About 40 to 44% American households have a gun, ergo over 55% of households do not, a Supreme Court majority at 5 to 4.
In other words, most Americans do NOT like firearms. To me they have become more a threat than a safety measure, more the problem than the solution.
I used to own a s&w 5 shot pump 12 gauge but never hunted. Also a ruger 22 cal short rifle semiauto. Got rid of them after I left the navy, where I was a marksman, and became appalled at the gun lobby. The ruger I only ever shot into soft ground once a year to ensure it still worked. Some skeet with the sg. Will never own a gun again.

You contend Colorado passed a law to make your browning shotgun (I presume) illegal.
This is not what this website says .. the bill does not ban the current possession of these firearms.
.. the bill does not ban the possession of these semi-automatic firearms. Current owners would be allowed to keep their rifles, pistols, and shotguns... (but could not purchase new, transfer or sell..)
https://www.themeateater.com/hunt/firearm-hunting/what-hunters-should-know-about-colorados-first-in-the-nation-gun-ban

I sort of agree (I thinks) on one issue, that of banning assault rifles/weapons. The horse are out of the barn. In 2004 when the clinton assault rifle ban was not renewed by republicans under gwbush, there were approx 400,000 assault rifles in America. Today 20 years later there are estimated 10 to 20 millions. The horse are out of the barn; a new awb would be a cosmetic fix but do little towards blunting mass shootings or carnage from the ar15 and those two NATO rounds, .223.
A 10 round magazine limit I would go with, but regrettably, let any federal assault weapon ban be abandoned. Would help appease pro gun democrats, such as yourself.
I agree with banning trans athletes achieving fame, wolves in sheeps clothing.
Cheers Denali.

--- Not an ego, jimmy the one is a British naval term-----

DenaliDemocrat

(1,765 posts)
39. I reject your false narrative.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 02:45 PM
Monday

I never said it outlawed the possession of my Auto 5. It makes it ILLEGAL to sell or buy - and it’s stupid.

I support 1) universal background checks

I support 2) mental health checks for purchases

I don’t support dummies who try to outlaw a shotgun that has been carried afield by over 2.7 million hunters.

jimmy the one

(2,794 posts)
76. People can still buy these -banned guns- legally
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 01:54 PM
10 hrs ago
I never said it outlawed the possession of my Auto 5..

Yes you did: Colorado passed a law which would make my Browning Auto 5 illegal.

That your remark is ambiguous and subject to different interpretations is beside the point, since one interpretation implies that mere possession of the gun is illegal.
You as author have final say, within reason, as to your intent. I fully understood you meant future purchases and reselling and I noted this in my reply: ... 'but could not purchase new, transfer or sell.'

You: It makes it illegal to sell or buy.

You neglect to mention that your gun, and the others subjected to the ban, can evidently be purchased legally by passing a background check and then obtaining an eligibility check from your sheriff, and then taking a 4 hour or 12 hour firearms safety course.
From my link: 'Upon completion of these courses, the applicant will then be permitted to purchase the banned firearms in question.'
So you must indeed jump thru some hoops to legally buy one, but it is not a total ban.

It appears the ban rationale has to do with add on caveats such as detachable magazines and using center fire ammo. Dunno if shotguns use centerfire or rim fire, I think maybe both, one or the other depending on the gun. My s&w 12 gauge did not have a detachable magazine.
I also believe the 2nd amendment pertained to a well regulated militia, and the current individual rights interpretation is a subversion of the bill of rights, enabled by far right wing republicans.

thucythucy

(9,083 posts)
78. My disabled spouse and i depended on unisex bathrooms
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 01:58 PM
10 hrs ago

whenever we were out in the world.

As do hundreds of thousands of other mixed--disabled and non-disabled--couples.

In fact, most accessible bathrooms are in fact "unisex." Otherwise the cost of providing ADA compliant access to public toilets would double, and then you'd hear people grousing about the "expense" of access.

I would argue that throwing the disability community under the bus is neither moral nor politically astute.

Cosmocat

(15,399 posts)
19. Been saying for decades
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 05:12 AM
Monday

That Ds always lose on "culture" issues and need to gtfo out of them.

Personally, I believe they were right to push for firearm control, but agree that we are now well past the point that its a hopeless cause and they should publicly take it off the table.

Polybius

(21,805 posts)
20. Add lowering speed limits to 2
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 05:24 AM
Monday

I don't know why we take that stupid position. I'm not talking 70 mph or anything like that. I'm talking lowering the NYC speed limit to 20 mph.

exboyfil

(18,356 posts)
27. Problem with taking the bait
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 11:10 AM
Monday

1. No response or a response not widely disseminated allows the narrative to be set.

2. Agree with you on guns.

3. Define social justice. We are currently seeing the response to the blanket statement that there is no reverse discrimination. Any action that is race based is going to be a loser for quite some time.

dem4decades

(13,969 posts)
4. Is this the Gallop poll that stopped doing polls that unfavorable to Trump? Enough said. It's a new reality out there.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:55 AM
Sunday

usonian

(24,761 posts)
9. Define "Independent"
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 12:02 PM
Sunday

I happen to know someone (ahem) who registered as independent for years just to have way more leverage in these "polls" than Democrats or Republicans.

everyonematters

(4,109 posts)
15. The current state
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:20 PM
Sunday

Somehow in recent decades the Democratic Party became less about winning elections and making a difference in people's lives, to more about just belonging, causing the problem of not relating to the rest of society.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,238 posts)
31. The problem is the Americans and their selfishness
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 12:34 PM
Monday

The democrats tried to get a healthcare bill passed and the public said socialism and they are gonna kill grandma. Single issue voters and voters that are easily swayed by bull crap.

31st Street Bridge

(182 posts)
57. Too many Americans are dumber than a brick sandwich
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:08 AM
14 hrs ago

They'll vote against things that help them just to own the libs.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,238 posts)
84. When I see a cop he doesn't give a damn how much money I make
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 03:58 PM
8 hrs ago

He only sees the color of my skin and proceeds to follow me me. Money will not make everyone equal, just ask the people from South America.

Takket

(23,666 posts)
21. The problem is always messaging
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 06:22 AM
Monday

Specifically the right wing cesspool that is the media and social media now.

Indies hate the gop because the see they are awful. Big they hate the democrats because everyone is TELLING them Democrats are awful.

Scrivener7

(59,332 posts)
30. BUT this has been an issue for decades. We took
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 12:05 PM
Monday

control of social media under Obama and it made a big difference, but we lost that edge.

Decades. It's time we came up with a solution. For example, I've read that 80% of the social media misinformation in the 2015 campaign came from 80 social media accounts plus bots.

We need to do that.

ananda

(34,948 posts)
23. What bs.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 07:54 AM
Monday

kFor the past 25 years we've been
dealing with corrupt Republican politicians and courts
gsming elections criminally in their favor.

sboatcar

(831 posts)
29. Democrats need to stop edging to the right every time an election doesn't go their way.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 11:33 AM
Monday

There's a LOT of people further on the left that don't vote or vote third party because of the gradual march toward the right that a lot of establishment democrats have taken. We need to be aggressive progressives and stop trying to pander to those on the right who won't vote for democrats anyway.

The Revolution

(890 posts)
37. Is there any evidence for that?
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 02:16 PM
Monday

I've seen it claimed many times that there is this vast pool of far left voters just waiting to be activated. But is there any evidence that that is the case?

My understanding was that was the theory Jasmine Crockett was running on, but she didn't even win the Democratic primary.

Seems like it should be easy to test though. Take some of these "safe" Republican seats and run someone way to the left. If the theory is true, we should see the candidates at least overperform expectations or other recent candidates.

And even if this pool of voters does exist, part of me wants to say "fuck 'em" if they still can't see the difference between the parties.

Gore1FL

(22,934 posts)
52. It started in 1984
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:59 AM
14 hrs ago

We have yet to nominate a presidential candidate that opposed Reaganomics.

The Revolution

(890 posts)
73. Joe Biden
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 12:40 PM
11 hrs ago

Absolutely did. The problem, as usual, is that we couldn't communicate it, even to everyone on our side. And also that the changes he implemented would take time to actually show an effect.

https://smry.ai/proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newyorker.com%2Fmagazine%2F2024%2F11%2F04%2Fbidenomics-is-starting-to-transform-america-why-has-no-one-noticed

Bidenomics Is Starting to Transform America. Why Has No One Noticed?

Real Bidenomics upends a set of economic assumptions that have prevailed in both parties for most of the past half century. Biden is the first President in decades to treat government as the designer and ongoing referee of markets, rather than as the corrector of markets’ dislocations and excesses after the fact.

What would you call these policies? One apt label might be “post-neoliberal,” a term that does not resonate at all with the public. Another way of thinking about Biden’s approach is through terminology devised by the political scientist Jacob Hacker: it rejects redistribution as a guiding liberal principle, in favor of “predistribution,” an effort to transform the economy in a way that makes redistribution less necessary.

The lesson for the next Democratic president is probably that we need to have some policies that will have some obvious impact in the short term, and be sure people know it was because of you.

Gore1FL

(22,934 posts)
75. Tax rates for the top bracket are less than 70%
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 01:27 PM
10 hrs ago

If he was against it, he didn’t succeed in changing it.

The Revolution

(890 posts)
71. Yes, agreed
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 12:07 PM
12 hrs ago

I don't know that people care about left or right so much, but they want someone who will do something to help. So you need to have some policy ideas, but also be able to communicate with people in a genuine way (or at least come off as genuine, even if you are not). We know there were people who supported Bernie Sanders, then turned around and voted for Trump.

Zambero

(9,966 posts)
41. I guess that's why they are self-described Independents?
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 03:05 PM
Monday

As most have opined that both major parties leave something to be desired? I have a pretty good sense of which party's candidates these 71% of poll respondents would favor if the election were held today, and it would not be the MAGA-Trump party.

Zambero

(9,966 posts)
88. Exactly
Wed Mar 11, 2026, 12:08 AM
13 min ago

A major gripe about Dems is that they are not able to rein Trump in, which is a tall order given that the GOP holds sway over all three branches of the federal governemnt,

betsuni

(28,995 posts)
43. No third party,. Republican/Independent/non-voters aren't secretly socialist/progressive populists yearning to rise
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 04:35 PM
Monday

up in solidarity against old meanie out-of-touch wealthy elite Democrats ignoring us with things "not relating to the rest of society" like health care, Social Security, infrastructure, civil rights, voting rights, economic and environmental regulations and green technology, good relationships with other countries and diplomacy, reproductive freedom, support of unions and education and science, taxing the wealthy and corporations, student debt relief, etc. -- government that works.

The Democratic Party does make positive differences in people's lives, of course. Don't understand the point of this OP.

betsuni

(28,995 posts)
82. Whose wages? Seattle voted for a $15 minimum wage in 2014.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 02:51 PM
9 hrs ago

The Fight for Fifteen has been successful as a grassroots movement to increase wages across the country since 2012. Democratic controlled cities and states have higher minimum wages, as everyone knows. Democrats haven't had the votes to increase wages on a national level, Republicans controlling the House in six our of eight years of the Clinton and Obama administrations and two of Biden's.

If people want higher wages they need to vote for Democrats. What's the next goalpost?

everyonematters

(4,109 posts)
83. No they don't know it. When was the last time they even put it up for a vote?
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 03:54 PM
8 hrs ago

The next time we get full control, we need to end the filibuster and stop worrying about what the Republicans are going to do.

Wednesdays

(22,388 posts)
45. Huh. Democrats polling at 13 percent?
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 04:45 PM
Monday

So that's why we've won every special election since 2025?
Every. Single. One.

everyonematters

(4,109 posts)
60. They are voting for us because they are disgusted with Trump, not because they believe in us.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:22 AM
13 hrs ago

Quiet Em

(2,847 posts)
68. They know what's on the table
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:33 AM
13 hrs ago

The difference between the two parties is pretty damn obvious.

I can spell it out for them in simple terms.

Republicans - fiscal policy = enrich the wealthy
social policy = erode civil rights

Democrats - fiscal policy = lift up the people
social policy = protect civil rights

everyonematters

(4,109 posts)
70. The big problem is wages. Too many people are struggling, and they don't see either party making a
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:37 AM
13 hrs ago

difference.

walkingman

(10,726 posts)
55. The number of "ammosexuals" that are in our society is just weird...and dangerous.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:02 AM
14 hrs ago

I grew up with guns, still have them, and find the infatuation with them to be an obvious cultural issue. If you carry a gun with you everywhere you gun, it speaks to your attitude about our society and not in a positive way. In my part of the country...Texas...conservatives are the worst. Just weird.

somsai

(234 posts)
56. When voting there are only two choices, and we need to be the better choice
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:05 AM
14 hrs ago

Trump is horrible, to get votes we need to be better.

Not sure Talarico is a great example. If the Rs run someone worse he'll win, otherwise Rs will run loops of the crazy things Talarico has said and he has quite a history.

LuvLoogie

(8,772 posts)
79. I'm skeptical of arguments which include throwing marginalized people under the bus
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 02:14 PM
10 hrs ago

in order to win elections.

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