I think Trump is going to drop a nuke.

[Coventina]

I know he wants to.
It's the ultimate expression of power.

Remember how he wanted to nuke hurricanes?

Will anyone stop him?

[ananda]

1. I think you are right.

He's been itching to use nukes for a long time.

[Coventina]

3. So it's my fault if he does it?

[ABC123Easy]

22. Yeah

That post was absurd.

Imagine if I won the powerball lottery tonight. There it's out in the universe. Come on baby, come on!

[AZ8theist]

33. There's no Powerball drawing on Sundays

Universe saved!!!

[Marcuse]

48. Let's put it to the test. Everybody wish for Easy to win tomorrow!

[AZ8theist]

74. Wishing is a silly waste of time.....

I'm praying to the divinity of our lord Koresh that Easy wins the lottery!!!!

[Blues Heron]

4. He already said he wants to, it's not exactly a big secret. The guy is batshit, hates the world, and has the codes.

Do the math

[Coventina]

6. Sardanapalus syndrome. n/t

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

39. If He Did That Might Give Putin Cover in Ukraine n/t

[Blues Heron]

47. They'll be going off like popcorn at that point

[popsdenver]

106. My thinking is

that if ANY nation launches ..........one goes, they all go.

Tiny Tactical Nukes are on the back of Putin's mind, when he is faced with failure in Ukraine. He may get away with that.
It is far easier for him to pick on Ukraine's Nuclear electrical power generation plants to do much the same thing, with just a drone.
Unknown to a lot of people, Ukraine spent years designing, financing, building, and installing a new major sarcophagus over the Chernobyl Reactor....... only to have Putin, recently punch a large gaping hole in it with just one drone, allowing the radiation to escape once again....

I can only imagine that any area hit with a nuclear bomb, will be un-inhabitable for quite some time. Like hundreds or even thousands of years?

Maybe someone knows??????

[Crunchy Frog]

113. Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't become uninhabitable.

Catastrophic damage to a nuclear plant could be a different story though. Though I guess russian nuclear plants could also be vulnerable.

[popsdenver]

115. I would think the ones used on Japan

are much different and much much smaller than those available today......It all depends on what isotope is used......and I have no idea about those things.....Are the current Plutonium bombs different than the ones used in Japan?????????

(We will have our own problems here in the U.S. of our own making, if something humongous isn't done with Hanford? in the immediate future)

[Soul_of_Wit]

116. Ionizing radiation doesn't care about borders

Ionizing radiation is a long-term effect of any nuclear blast in the atmosphere. It travels around the globe and causes cancer. This includes above-ground tests in the 20th century. Power plant mishaps also contribute.

This being the main worldwide effect presumes that the number of blasts is small in number. A large-scale nuclear war leads to nuclear winter. Best-case scenario is severe climate change and widespread famine. Worst-case scenario is human extinction.

Chernobyl will be unfit for human habitation for thousands of years. The bomb at Nagasaki was 20 megatons and there were no nuclear power plants there. Today's nukes can be hundreds of megatons. Big difference.

[popsdenver]

125. Hey S o W

thanks for the info

[joho260]

129. 15-21 kilotons.

You need fusion (hydrogen) bombs to get into the megaton range.

[Soul_of_Wit]

136. Yes, off by a factor 0f 1,000 (n/m)

[Crunchy Frog]

112. Yes, if he does I'm pretty sure that Putin will drop nukes on Ukraine.😭

[wnylib]

75. Yes, he has the codes, but setting off a nuke is

complicated, with several safeguards in place so that one person, even the president, can't launch one on a whim.

[Whip-poor-will]

78. wrong

He projects but doesn't do the one thing after all the other "he won't/can't" do that things ?

[Bettie]

88. Is there anyone around him

who will even attempt to stop him?

We've been told over and over "he can't do....that" and every time, he fucking does it because no one has the will or the ability to stop him.

[Shipwack]

108. I honestly think that...

… even if he tries, it won’t happen. Too many people around him are crazy, but not crazy enough.

[SocialDemocrat61]

38. I put in to the universe

that he was golfing and he hit a ball in to a tree, it ricocheted back in to his head and killed him. Why hasn’t that manifested yet? 😉

[popsdenver]

107. Anyone

who thinks of him croaking, wouldn't solve the problem......A bunch of others that are directing things, Like Stephen Miller, Russell Vought, would immediately step in to fill the void.......The 2025 group is directing a lot of what he is doing, from the sidelines behind smoke and mirrors......
The 2025 Group and other Radical Far Right groups, along with the entire Republican group of Senators and House Members, along with the Republican Supreme Court are what is giving him the power, and have been since 2015..........AND we must not forget Russia/Putin, and U.S. Corporations providing the financing for their entire program, these entire past 45+ years, and intensified efforts this last eleven years.......

[SocialDemocrat61]

111. Yeah but it would still be funny.

[Crunchy Frog]

114. I put into the universe that he would die when he got Covid in 2020. Didn't work.

And it might actually have done some good if he'd died at that point.

[RussBLib]

69. It's pretty selective, wouldn't you say?

It’s like prayer. Maybe 1 out of 10,000 get “answered,” but maybe not like you wanted.

[Torchlight]

86. It also has a consistent habit of disappearing its assertions

Peacewave: It has a way of manifesting itself.

[mercuryblues]

98. If that were true

Trump would be....well...

[Trueblue1968]

124. Get rid of trump. Nuke him instead. .... I am being facitious but thai whats in my dream.

[H2O Man]

5. Recommended.

I've been thinking about this the last few days.

[LuckyCharms]

7. I agree. n/t

[kimbutgar]

8. Yes he can and will !

Anything to distract from Epstein.

[Diraven]

9. If Hegseth gets his way

It will definitely happen. He loves killing people and committing war crimes just because he can.

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

43. Don't Forget That Hegseth Believes His Ideas Are ORDAINED! n/t

[JBTaurus83]

10. I could see him using a tactical nuke

On one of Iran’s underground facilities.

[Cosmocat]

23. I am thinking the same and they will spin it

As it really isn't a nuke because blah, blah, blah and the zombie base will love it.

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

45. Only Thing Slowing Him Is No 8K Cameras Mounted On the Fighters... YET! n/t

[Dan]

11. I hope that such a possible event never occurs.

Being honest, Trump is batshit crazy and the idea of nuking some country would probably make him higher than a rat on acid, but...where does it end if that happens?

What is the end game?

What happens next?

And, I suspect that there are still nukes (suit-case, etc.,) somewhere out there from the fall of the old Soviet Union. We live in a free market economy and there are a few STEM personnel who have the skills, question is the materials, to complete a project. Plus, thanks to the billionaires, we have AI.

That is a bridge that we have to hope that even the GOP would want to avoid....and once that level of lawlessness is reached, everyone and everywhere is fair game.

IMO.

[JBTaurus83]

18. India/Pakistan

Comes to mind as a conflict zone if we launch anything. I’d also worry that the citizens of Pakistan revolt against the government due to anger about the Iran situation and some far worse group takes control of their arsenal.

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

49. Don't Forget That Vlad Has Plenty of Current Tactical Stock 4 Ukraine n/t

[SonOfNebanaube]

90. They are no where near 'Tactical'...

Our are 10kt, theirs 600kt.

[gab13by13]

12. If he does it will be his downfall.

Going to war with Iran may also bring him down.

[mopinko]

41. if he tries to institute a draft,

shit will get real real, real fast.

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

51. The Longer This Man Is Our President The More Often This Scene Applies!

?si=uwE2HPxHvd0r5fNZ

[peggysue2]

50. If he were to do it, it would be the downfall of us all

Because a single strike, even a tactical nuke, would not be contained. We all know that. We're living in a tit for tat world. We're living in the Age of Monsters and Trump is insane.

[bdamomma]

95. All the more

reason why he is has to be removed.

[struggle4progress]

13. Should he do so, he and his gangsters shall all find themselves riding a tiger they can never dismount:

There once were some bumpkins, all liars,
who rushed all around setting fires
But by the end of their ride
they mostly had died
and we sunk the few left in quagmires

[BadgerMom]

65. It's not them I'm worried about. It's the rest of us.

They’ll be in a terrible place, but they’ll take all of us with them.

[struggle4progress]

67. Or maybe no matter how crazy they are, there are evenually enough non-crazies to checkmate them

I don't know the future. I only try to imagine the paths to the worst in hopes of blocking them

[struggle4progress]

14. Crimson Tide ending

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

55. Can We Enter Movie Reality & Emergency Appoint...

... Jason Robards, Morgan Freeman, or ...heck... LESLIE ****** NIELSEN as interim President until we can get these foaming at the mouth lunatics into strait jackets???

[regnaD kciN]

63. Leslie Nielsen's dead...

…and would still be an improvement.

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

79. At Least HE'D Be Convincing in the Role! n/t

[struggle4progress]

64. Fiction is also a way of thinking through the possibilities

[betsuni]

72. After Venezuelan boat bombings, I heard Frank Drebin's voice: "Luckily, they turned out to be drug dealers."

(The Naked Gun 2 1/2, The Smell of Fear)

[ABC123Easy]

94. Fuck yeah!

Leslie Nielsen!!!

I know he's dead but he was SO awesome in his movies.

[Oppaloopa]

126. How about Martin Sheen

[Blue Owl]

15. Thanks to Republicans....

A man who had his finger in the genitals of young girls now has dementia and that same finger on the nuclear button.

Think about this carefully Republicans.

Is this what you really want?????

[tonekat]

61. He serves as the lightning rod

He draws the ire, while they do nothing to interfere, since they are somewhat insulated. They really need to hear from the people loud and clear for their enabling.

[CTyankee]

96. My guess is that there are a lot of them who are or wanna be doing the same thing....

[pnwest]

16. Dear God don't even think that thought.

It's too awful to contemplate.

[struggle4progress]

17. Charter of the International Military Tribunal

... The following acts, or any of them, are crimes coming within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal for which there shall be individual responsibility:

(a) CRIMES AGAINST PEACE: namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;

(b) WAR CRIMES: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war. Such violations shall include, but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labor or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity;

(c)CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war; or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.

Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit any of the foregoing crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any persons in execution of such plan ...

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp

[mahatmakanejeeves]

20. How long have they been out of existence?

... International Military Tribunal (hereinafter called "the Tribunal'') for the just and prompt trial and punishment of the major war criminals of the European Axis.

75 years, give or take.

[struggle4progress]

21. It's an international precedent

[struggle4progress]

19. Vasily Arkhipov

Human Progress
Apr 1, 2022

... our hero is Vasili Arkhipov–a Soviet naval officer who refused to allow a Soviet nuclear strike on a U.S. aircraft carrier during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. Arkhipov’s actions likely prevented an all-out nuclear war, the consequences of which would have included the deaths of millions, if not billions, of innocent people, a collapse of many nation states and their economies, and an enormous amount of environmental damage. Aptly, the U.S. National Security Archive has dubbed Arkhipov a man who “saved the world”

[niyad]

36. Thank you for the reminder.

[Dan]

44. Never heard of him - Thanks for sharing.

The U.S. has Lyndsay Graham and the Epstein Files.

[BarbD]

24. There is no Plan B after a nuclear bomb.

These incompetent, immoral, stupid assholes do not have a clue as to what they are doing.

[FakeNoose]

32. Right you are, and I believe the other Repukes realize that

They aren't all batshit crazy like Chump is.

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

58. That's Held Us for 80 Years.. Fingers Crossed That It Holds

Us For Another Few Months. But realize these guys THINK they can light off a few dozen TACTICAL nukes and it won't count. They're ITCHING to do it.... "See? That wasn't so bad and the radioactive ☢️ yields are no more than a few dozen unshielded dental X-Rays!"

[milestogo]

25. If he gets that special feeling.

The whole world is fucked.

[RockRaven]

26. Every single person who ever voted for him or failed to vote against him will be culpable.

And that bodes ill for the remainder.

[Jim__]

27. I really hope you are wrong. At the least, I hope someone stops him.

[oldtime dfl_er]

28. His big barfy bunker isn't done yet

Under the friggin ballroom. When that's done, watch out.

[ms liberty]

29. I think it is a distinct possibility, and I am horrified. We all need to be calling our Congresscritters

Every day, demanding he be removed.

[FalloutShelter]

30. Ominous signs.

We've closed all of our Embassies in the ME and told everyone to get out of Dodge...unassisted.
A previous post, (can't find it now) said that the Doomsday plane is headed to the ME. It's the flying command center for extreme conflict possibly nuclear.

Found it:
www.democraticunderground.com/100220417594

[Groundhawg]

31. Not a chance.

[niyad]

35. Based on?

[Another Jackalope]

42. Hey, don't give up!

There's always a chance...

[calimary]

66. Yeah. I'm trying to remind myself of that, EVERY day.

As the saying goes, "hope springs eternal."

[niyad]

34. I keep thinking of a speech given by Dr. Helen Caldicott (Physicians

For Social Responsibility) talking about the dangers of nuclear war. She concluded with, "This will be the first war in which the living will envy the dead."

[Laffy Kat]

37. I predicted this very thing to a co-worker last week.

He's always wanted to nuke something. God help us.

[YodaMom2]

40. It's the ultimate expression of power.

And he wants to be seen as THE most powerful man on the planet. There’s not a doubt in my mind that he’s itching to do it. And they’ve culled most of the military leaders that would have opposed him.

If they open this nuclear door, there’s no closing it. What’s to stop Russia from using one on Ukraine? Or China on Taiwan? Or North Korea on South Korea? The U.S. would be in no moral position to object. And no one else would be in a position to stop them.

The U.S. has protected the world order for decades. How ironic that we are the ones now tearing it down.

[niyad]

46. I used to entertain a small (VERRRRRRRY SMALL) ray of hope based

on something that was supposedly a joke, but. . . The story went that there was always the one guy we never saw in the command center, but was always there. Not the one who carried the codes, but the guy who was there to make sure those codes were never sent. If there ever was such a role, pretty sure it has been eliminated.

[AverageOldGuy]

52. There is a related comment and thread right here on DU

QUOTING from a DU thread titled "USA Sends Doomsday Plane E-6B Mercury to Middle East" :

USA Sends Doomsday Plane E-6B Mercury to Middle East
https://militarnyi.com/en/news/usa-doomsday-plane-e-6b-mercury-middle-east/
Legit? I think so..

The USA has deployed the E-6B Mercury airborne command post to the Middle East, often called the ‘Doomsday plane.’

Bankingnews reported about this on March 5, referencing OSINT analysts who monitor military aircraft movements.

The aircraft serves as a command center and facilitates communication with strategic nuclear submarines.

It is equipped with a system for transmitting launch codes for intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads.

Additionally, due to its specialized communication systems, the E-6B Mercury can maintain command over nuclear forces even if the ground-based command infrastructure is destroyed.

[IcyPeas]

53. BBC: Donald Trump's nuclear fixation - from the 1980s to now*

[Note: This BBC article is from 2017 so the word "now" means 2017]

In August MSNBC's Joe Scarborough reported that candidate Trump had asked his foreign policy advisers several times why the US couldn't use its nuclear weapons - a claim the Trump campaign denied.

The report, however, followed on the heels of an April 2016 town hall forum exchange between Mr Trump and MSNBC's Chris Matthews, who asked him why he had refused to categorically rule out the use of nuclear weapons.

"Would there be a time when it could be used?" Trump replied. "Possibly. Possibly."

When pressed on the risks of openly talking of using nuclear weapons, Mr Trump said: "Then why are we making them? Why do we make them?"
......
In 1984 - at the height of the Cold War - Mr Trump even told a Washington Post interviewer he wanted to be put in charge of US-Russia nuclear arms negotiations.

"It would take an hour-and-a-half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles," Mr Trump said. "I think I know most of it anyway."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40879868

[neverforget]

54. Certain Fundie Christians think this war is going to usher in the Second Coming of Christ

These lunatics also have some power in this Admin so who knows...

[ForeGoneLegsBirne]

80. ...And There's a LOT More Where They Came From..

How many of these faith filled matchsticks are going to get lit when MAGA televangelists & podcasters like Benny Johnson & Candace Owens REALLY start bearing down with administration encouragement?!

[Crunchy Frog]

118. They're in for the shock of their lives, if that's any comfort.

[AverageOldGuy]

56. I guess one big question is:

If he does nuke Iran, even with just one small nuke, who could retaliate with a nuke on the White House -- not Iran, only Russia or China could do so -- at least that's what I think -- anyone else? And would they?

My daughter lives on Capitol Hill, less than one straight line mile from the White House, basically ground zero. So she's toast. Literally.

We are in the DC suburbs in Northern Virginia, about 30-33 straight line miles from ground zero. The blast won't get us, however, we will die of radiation sickness within a few days.

Have I finally lost what's left of my 81-yr-old mind thinking about this? Survived a year in the bush in Vietnam in what seemed like a gunfight damn near every day, just to end up in the rubble caused by a madman?

I guess it was a waste to update our wills as we did a couple of months ago -- no one will be around to probate them.

[EX500rider]

109. Are you asking if China or Russia want to commit suicide to help Iran? I am guessing not

[Crunchy Frog]

120. I don't believe that they would hit us in retaliation. They both know they'd be wiped off the face of the Earth.

Not a price they'd be willing to pay for a country that they really don't care about. More likely that Putin would use it as a green light to start dropping nukes on Ukraine, while China would pretend to be above it all.

[ashredux]

57. Sadly, I had the very same thought....

This will be the test to see if the military will hold

[LudwigPastorius]

59. Fuck me.

Somebody went and told Trump that Japan didn't agree to an unconditional surrender until after the U.S. dropped two nukes on them.

[Bayard]

60. I don't think he will....

He's tied by money to too many countries in the Middle East, like Saudi and Qatar. They would also be hit. Fallout is not very discriminating.

[iemanja]

62. He'll send ground troops first.

[BigmanPigman]

68. I thought you wrote "dropping a duke" like

"dropping a deuce" which I assumed was why he wears diapers and stinks. Sometimes when I read too fast my mind comes up with some interesting/odd ideas.

[ForgedCrank]

70. No one

is nuking anyone.

[dpibel]

71. So reassuring!

I mean, dude, c'mon!

ForgedCrank said it, I believe it, and that's good enough for me!!1!

[rampartd]

73. not until whatever is under the ball room is complete.

i wonder what it will cost to join him in the shelter?

[Crunchy Frog]

121. I'm sure that he has other bunkers available to him. If he's going to do it he won't wait on the ballroom.

[no_hypocrisy]

76. Trump: "Just a little one . . . . . "

[live love laugh]

77. He definitely wants to be the one to push the button.

Anything … ANYTHING for attention — sleeping on camera, fake ear bandages, rambling word salad like speeches, fake bruises ….

[Historic NY]

81. Turn the desert to glass.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/trinitite-first-nuclear-bomb-turned-sand-to-glass.htm]

[bdamomma]

82. I really

don't think Putin will allow it, isn't he pulling DJT's strings.

[Crunchy Frog]

122. Putin might actually feel like he'd benefit from it. He might see it as freeing him to nuke Ukraine.

[bdamomma]

133. Crap

who knows what these guys are thinking. Trump will never be in their club, they are laughing at him.

[Renew Deal]

83. It's not impossible

I’ve heard other people suggest it too. Probably all he needs is someone to tell him that refusing to drop a nuke is woke.

[Kid Berwyn]

84. That's what Bibi and Bonesaw want, too.

All over Iran.

Of course, they have not figured what happens next, nor who dies.

[MineralMan]

85. I don't think he will.

So, we have your prediction and mine, now. I like mine better.

[ananda]

89. It's quite likely Bibi has the same itch...

and even though Trump's claiming it for vanity
and other reasons, I think it's really Bibi's
war.

[MineralMan]

91. Trump might encourage Bibi to do it.

That's more likely, I think.

[ananda]

92. Bibi's aleady doing the heavy work across the ME..

and in Iran

I think he's perfectly capable of wanting to do
this on his own, might have given Trump soe
kind of hint... and now Trump might want to
do it to get the credit because he wants the
"win" on this even though "winning" would come
at a huge cost.

[Torchlight]

87. Wouldn't surprise me at this point in his mental devolution

He's at the stage of just throwing anything in reach at the wall when he's in tantrum mode; ketchup, lives, nukes... whatever's handy.

[ProfessorGAC]

93. I Won't Diminish Your Concern

Your worries are valid, because he is nuts. If anybody would go too far and do nukes, it would be that guy.
But, I'd would put the probability of it actually happening as so close to zero, that we could call it zero.

[lark]

97. I'd bet he wants to, but hopefully someone will convince him not to.

Is there anyone sane enough to take on that task?

[kentuck]

99. But it will be a "small" one...

..strategically targeted and not meant to kill the population.

So it must be alright?

[Joinfortmill]

100. If they don't, and soon, we're all screwed.

[NoRethugFriends]

101. nope

[CanonRay]

102. Congress had a chance to get a handle on this

and they chose not to do so. As a result, he has a green light to do any damn thing he wants.

[JPK]

103. Prevailing Winds

Blow from the west to the east. Tehran may suffer from the blast but a radioactive cloud would quickly spread over the Stans into western China. Get these crazy, suicidal christian nationalists out of government. They want to destroy us all.

[BaronChocula]

104. Same occurred to me recently

It also made me wonder what it would take for troops to consider an order illegal.

[pandr32]

105. I agree.While he is playing mighty man with his toy soldiers...

He will use every weapon of war at his disposal.

[NNadir]

110. He's certainly crazy enough to attempt as much, but I doubt an order to do would be obeyed.

I think he's on the way out and off the planet in any case.

[Quanto Magnus]

117. I agree

he'll keep pushing and as consequences close in, he'll drop a nuke to distract and claim that since he's a 'wartime president' everyone should vote for what he wants.

[bluestarone]

119. SAD part is here we are, thinking this. NEVER before have i had these thoughts. but

When this government decided to hide threats to our country, first thing that came to my mind was OUR OWN government could do something and blame it on Iran. I honestly believe TSF is the only president that i would even consider a threat to our country. These MONSTERS are capable of anything, and that's a fact!

[Crunchy Frog]

123. He'll never win the Nobel Peace Prize if he does that.

[Pisces]

127. This is terrifying but nothing he has done so far contradicts this prediction. He is obsessed with power and

false machismo. It would be devastating. He is signaling that elections will not happen.

[enid602]

128. Jaded

What other experience can possibly compete with the exhilaration of diddling God-knows-how-many adolescent boys and girls over the span of decades? Trump’s become jaded.

[IronLionZion]

130. That really opens up the gates to Russia and China using theirs

Russia might actually nuke Ukraine. Russia has nuked itself before so they are crazy enough to do it.

Israel might use theirs.

[Orrex]

131. Truthfully, I can't believe that he hasn't done it already.

And I'm sure that a strongly-worded letter would follow.

[JustKay]

132. This is the reason I'm not sleeping at night!

[CommonHumanity]

134. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NO-WHAT CAN WE DO?!!?!!

This sweet fragile world...so much harm, so much destruction to all living things. I can't endure this. The thought shatters me. I love this world. I can't stand to se more harm. PLEASE NO! What can we do? This madmen has no right to damage life and the entire biosphere. IT IS SO WRONG. I swear to God, I'd never have the courage to set myself on fire on in front of the white house and I don't want to, but if anything would make me want to, this is it.

[Upthevibe]

135. Coventina..........

I ABSOLUTELY agree!

I'd bet money on it. The question is: Who does he nuke?