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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAuthorities say a Georgia teacher was killed in a prank gone wrong. A teen is charged with homicide
https://apnews.com/article/teacher-killed-prank-student-charged-gainesville-georgia-4a81fff2e1ace903c001f7f3b2a81336The 40-year-old teacher, Jason Hughes, died after being taken to a hospital late Friday, the Hall County Sheriffs Office said. The 18-year-old driver of the pickup was arrested on a felony charge of vehicular homicide, and four other teens were charged with misdemeanors.
Hughes family said he knew and loved the five students involved and urged authorities to drop all charges against them.
This is a terrible tragedy, and our family is determined to prevent a separate tragedy from occurring, ruining the lives of these students, Hughes family said in a statement provided to The Associated Press on Monday. This would be counter to Jasons lifelong dedication of investing in the lives of these children.
Later in the article, it says that whether/how to prosecute the teens is a decision for Hall County District Attorney Lee Darragh, who is not commenting on the case at this time.
exboyfil
(18,356 posts)They shouldn't have been vandalizing property, and a car is a dangerous piece of equipment - not an escape vehicle. Don't see them spending any jail time, but some serious community service and probation is in order.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,840 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,854 posts)It can be legally classified as criminal mischief, trespassing, or littering.
And result in fines, probation, or in some cases jail.
In some states, killing someone even accidentally, along with committing
another crime is very serious.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,840 posts)or trespassing.
Irish_Dem
(80,854 posts)The law says defacing as well as damaging.
And the damage or defacing does not have to be permanent.
They can also be charged with littering, trespassing, disorderly conduct,
or criminal mischief simply for defacing property
I am just reading the law.
I guess the attorneys here can talk about if it is ever enforced that way.
The tricky part for the teen is that he killed someone accidentally
in the commission of another crime and most state laws reflect the idea
that this is not acceptable.
I don't know what the prosecutor will do here.
But I will be surprised if all charges are dropped.
Ms. Toad
(38,525 posts)Georgia has two crimes which cover what is commonly thought of thought of as vandalism:
criminal trespass - which is causing property damage (without consent) up to $500, knowingly it maliciously interfering with property use, intentionally damaging (including defacing) certain named "sacred" things (like gravestones, memorials, etc.)
Criminal damage to property - as relevant here - knowing interference with property in a way that endangers human life, or intentional damage of property in excess of $500.
So defacing a beloved teachers home doesn't qualify as "vandalism" - even known by another name - unless it causes actual property damage.
Each state has its own criminal laws. I'm guessing you were reading a summary of vandalism laws, rather than Georgia law - or perhaps the law of a different state. The specific crime of vandalism exists in some states (Ohio, for example) - just not in Georgia.
LisaL
(47,395 posts)He died from being run over. One of the charges for the 18 year old (who is an adult by law) is reportedly reckless driving. As far as I am concerned, someone killing a person through reckless driving needs to pay the price. A car is not a toy. It's not harmless to drive recklessly as alleged here.
Ms. Toad
(38,525 posts)The teacher fell in front of the car. That isn't necessarily reckless driving.
They may well have been reckless - for example if they but the gas and sped out. But I've got things which speed out that we suddenly, and unexpectedly under my tires when I was driving within sorry limits and with my full attention in the road.
The teacher's family is asking that he not be prosecuted - and they are s lot closer to knowing the situation than I can be from reading an article, so I'm withholding judgment as to whether they were behaving recklessly.
LisaL
(47,395 posts)I realize the wife doesn't want the teens prosecuted. But should we let relatives to dictate the punishment? Some relatives are forgiving and some are not. So some might want a serious crime to not be charged, while some want some minor crime severely punished.
Ms. Toad
(38,525 posts)But, again, from the publicly available information there is no indication he was driving recklessly. He has been charged - not convicted. Your initial assertion was that he was driving recklessly. Regardless of the punishment, it has not yet been proven that he was driving recklessly.
LisaL
(47,395 posts)I don't know where you are getting the idea that I claim it has been proven or not.
Ms. Toad
(38,525 posts)When I said below that there was no way to know from the publicly available information, your response wasn't an acknowledgement that it hadn't been proven - but an assertion that he was charged with reckless driving. You have repeatedly asserted that reckless driving is serious and needs to be punished, without any apparent awareness nothing in any description I have seen describes reckless driving, and that charges do not mean that he actually was driving recklessly. Taking your assertions as a whole, it seems to me you are conflating charging a crime with the commission of a crime.
LisaL
(47,395 posts)He is also considered an adult, not a kid.
He absolutely could get prison time if convicted.
Greybnk48
(10,714 posts)or there used to be. This was an accident, not a murder or killing. Sheesh!
Thank goodness the family has common sense and knows how their family member and Jason felt about each other.
LisaL
(47,395 posts)That we have to follow. Was this 18 year old following these rules while trying to get away?
Ms. Toad
(38,525 posts)There was not enough information on the article to make that determination.
LisaL
(47,395 posts)"Wallace now faces felony charges of first-degree vehicular homicide and reckless driving. He also faces misdemeanor charges of criminal trespass and littering on private property."
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/hall-county-man-run-over-teen-after-rolling-house
Greg_In_SF
(1,226 posts)killing /kĭl′ĭng/
noun
The act or action of causing death, as of a person.
So, yes, this was absolutely a killing
IbogaProject
(5,805 posts)The dead teacher's wife is asking for mercy. It was toilet paper but with a stupid rule where the kids get more points for not getting caught. The teacher was participating and sliped on a slick street. Wasn't hit and run, the kids including the driver tended to the dying teacher. Now the kid's family letting him drive a full size puckup, there needs to be some attention to that.
LisaL
(47,395 posts)longer considered a kid.
IbogaProject
(5,805 posts)I doubt that 18 year old bought that massive vehicle.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,998 posts)for them to wipe with as punishment.
ScratchCat
(2,732 posts)This will likely get plead out to something much less. This is especially true if the reports are true about the wife not wanting the kids charged with serious crimes.
Here in north Florida, we had an incident that didn't involve a death, but where the DA was acting ridiculous like this. It involved a prank where the kids were to knock on someone's door in the middle of the night, and when the occupant gets to the door, the kids are back in the front yard and have fireworks set up to go off. Well, as the kids were lighting the individual rockets, one's stick fell forward, changing the trajectory of the rocket. It went right at the house, hit a front window, went through and started a fire. Nobody was injured, but the family was traumatized by the fire and the house was significantly damaged. DA insists on taking Arson charges to trial. Everyone agrees it was an accident. No intent to burn someone's house down. Arson of an occupied dwelling has like a ten year sentence. Later at trial, I believe, the DA finally agrees to plead out to criminal mischief and the kids got probation.
MichMan
(17,064 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,402 posts)much of a chance of getting shot.
Truly can't imagine being on a jury to decide whether a young person -- not intending harm -- should be forever imprisoned as a cold-blooded murderer. Yet it ended up resulting in the death of an innocent person. A no-win horror at all levels.
KentuckyWoman
(7,397 posts)He dropped his cane and was half under the car where I didn't see. It was terrifying. Luckily I had moved only an inch or so and stopped and didn't hurt him at all. He died years ago and just reading this story gave me the willies. That trauma still has never left.
Hope those kids get what they need. It will be absolute hell for them to get through it. Hopefully the justice system uses the tools they have to encourage the right thing without saddling them with a lifelong criminal record.
MichMan
(17,064 posts)They will go the rest of their lives haunted by what they did.