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no_hypocrisy

(55,030 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:09 AM Saturday

Sending JD Vance to negotiate a peace agreement is an exercise in futility.

He has no experience whatsoever as an ambassador, a diplomat, even as a mediator or arbitrator. Just like Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff.

Not to say that Iran is sending someone with those skills and credentials.

Vance will likely lay out demands and conclude with "Take it or leave it!"

Plus, Vance has a legal background where you're trained as a litigator with Win-Or-Lose. By contrast, a mediator knows the nuances of an argument where both sides give up something in order to reach a resolution with no winners and no losers. And we all know that Trump is not going to accept being anything less than a winner.

My mother was President of the Board of Education in my town. A number of hardball contracts with the teachers. And she advised me that a successful agreement had both sides going home unhappy.

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Sending JD Vance to negotiate a peace agreement is an exercise in futility. (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Saturday OP
This asshole has ZERO qualifications to negotiate ANYTHING. spanone Saturday #1
Perhaps He was the only unqualified official available Raven123 Saturday #2
I like your mother's description of a successful agreement. It strikes me as perspicacious and wise. NNadir Saturday #3
Vance.... MarcoZandrini Saturday #4
Hey, quit insulting tapioca, which at least tastes good. niyad Saturday #6
To put it mildly. paleotn Saturday #16
He will judge what everyone is wearing. twodogsbarking Saturday #5
And if they seem manly enough! Nt Hope22 Saturday #12
He's the fall guy. When the missiles start flying again, it won't be Trump's fault, it will be JD's. Vinca Saturday #7
They just misspelled it and meant "piece" agreement. ananda Saturday #8
Iran's response... paleotn Saturday #17
Wasn't there a GOP lawmaker called Adam Kinzinger? jfz9580m Saturday #9
Sending the representation we do signifies contempt for political/international allegorical oracle Saturday #10
From his appointments throughout government.... paleotn Saturday #19
These people are so far out of their depth. Martin68 Saturday #11
It's not supposed to succeed OC375 Saturday #13
He would have much more luck if he were sent to a Javaman Saturday #14
Vance never even held public office or ran for public office until 2022 Diamond_Dog Saturday #15
Who can trust Jared and Witkoff? Kid Berwyn Saturday #18
JD Vance: "You know how my wife has a right to do stuff, but she's not allowed to do them?" Prairie Gates Saturday #20
They're all so out of their depth it's mind boggling. paleotn Saturday #21
I saw Vance on an airport tarmac 2 days ago calling the Iranians stupid right before he was going to ... Botany Saturday #22
I am quite sure that whomever Iran has negotiating displacedvermoter Saturday #23
As an aside, JD is endorsing GOP candidates in Ohio's campaign ads Raven123 Saturday #24

Raven123

(7,848 posts)
2. Perhaps He was the only unqualified official available
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:19 AM
Saturday

The rest of the administration is busy trampling our rights, breaking laws and making polymarket bets

NNadir

(38,170 posts)
3. I like your mother's description of a successful agreement. It strikes me as perspicacious and wise.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:43 AM
Saturday

We could use more of that insight in our party, and indeed in our country.

Vinca

(54,097 posts)
7. He's the fall guy. When the missiles start flying again, it won't be Trump's fault, it will be JD's.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:58 AM
Saturday

ananda

(35,260 posts)
8. They just misspelled it and meant "piece" agreement.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:04 AM
Saturday

Give us your piece of the world, and
everything will be fine..

paleotn

(22,362 posts)
17. Iran's response...
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:31 AM
Saturday

Nice oil and gas infrastructure you've got there. Pity if it went up in flames.

jfz9580m

(17,324 posts)
9. Wasn't there a GOP lawmaker called Adam Kinzinger?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:06 AM
Saturday
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5067478-kinzinger-closer-to-democrat-now/

Has he quit?
This is the most recent piece I can find is a 100 days old and backing the Maduro capture. And Wikipedia does not mention his leaving the GOP.
Oh nm:
Kinzinger did not seek reelection to Congress in 2022. After leaving office, he joined CNN as a senior political commentator.



Lol..Josh Hawley it is! I do hate TikTok and Google. Common ground!

I do hate it when stuff like TikTok is pushed as somehow mainstream. It is a view of the world that is defined by not being Trump or Stormfepnt.

allegorical oracle

(6,503 posts)
10. Sending the representation we do signifies contempt for political/international
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:24 AM
Saturday

negotiations. This admin blatantly believes that cooperating with other nations is an annoying nuisance that doesn't demand special skills or experience -- it's certainly not as difficult as developing real estate in NYC or building a new WH ballroom.

paleotn

(22,362 posts)
19. From his appointments throughout government....
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:40 AM
Saturday

it's clear Donnie doesn't think ANYTHING demands much talent and experience. Only loyalty to him and kind words in his ear every day. The man and his sidekicks are walking, talking evidence that Dunning and Krueger's most widely known theory is pretty solid.

OC375

(1,060 posts)
13. It's not supposed to succeed
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:00 AM
Saturday

Blame falls on Vance, for whatever comes next. Win-Win for Trump.

Javaman

(65,838 posts)
14. He would have much more luck if he were sent to a
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:06 AM
Saturday

Furniture store.

Just sayin’ 😂😂😂

Diamond_Dog

(40,715 posts)
15. Vance never even held public office or ran for public office until 2022
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:17 AM
Saturday

when he was “installed” US Senator in Ohio by Thiel & co. and proceeded to do nothing in the Senate but warm a seat and wait for Dim Don to elevate him to a position he is extremely unqualified for. He is so far in over his head on the world stage plus he has zero charisma.

Kid Berwyn

(24,603 posts)
18. Who can trust Jared and Witkoff?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:37 AM
Saturday

Besides Prince Bonesaw, nobody.

That leaves Couchhumper, negotiator by default.

Prairie Gates

(8,271 posts)
20. JD Vance: "You know how my wife has a right to do stuff, but she's not allowed to do them?"
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:40 AM
Saturday

"That's kinda like you, Iran. You're kinda like my wife who's not allowed to do stuff."

Really sharp stuff from the Vice President.

paleotn

(22,362 posts)
21. They're all so out of their depth it's mind boggling.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:50 AM
Saturday

Donnie's instructions are probably to get this thing over with as soon as possible so his approval stops tanking, Nov. doesn't become an even bigger blood bath, and he doesn't share blame for blowing up the entire global economy. But Iran holds most of the cards right now. In short, they're going to get rolled and rolled badly.

It's an extremely tough situation for even the most seasoned diplomats. But these idiots?

Botany

(77,484 posts)
22. I saw Vance on an airport tarmac 2 days ago calling the Iranians stupid right before he was going to ...
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:52 AM
Saturday

….. negotiate with them. What a great seasoned diplomat we have in J.D. Guyliner. Diplomacy
is done by adults, in private, and with the parties showing RESPECT to the other side or sides.

displacedvermoter

(4,662 posts)
23. I am quite sure that whomever Iran has negotiating
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:02 AM
Saturday

for them will be smarter, better versed in maritime and military law, the petroleum trade, and advanced diplomacy, than Vance and his handlers. And, they will likely be fluent in both English and Farsi.

I don't doubt we will be outclassed at the negotiating table.

Raven123

(7,848 posts)
24. As an aside, JD is endorsing GOP candidates in Ohio's campaign ads
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:20 AM
Saturday

Not Trump, mind you. Make of it what you will.

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