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spanone

(141,762 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:54 PM Saturday

***Looks like the peace talks are over***

I’m shocked since we sent our best negotiators.

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-04-12T01:47:32.239Z


Vance: But we just could not get to a situation where the Iranians were willing to accept our terms.
We weren't able to make any headway.


AP: US Vice President JD Vance says talks with Iran ended after 21 hours without reaching agreement

ISLAMABAD (AP) — U.S. Vice President JD Vance said negotiations ended early Sunday between the United States and Iran without a peace deal after the Iranians refused to accept American terms to not develop a nuclear weapon.

The high-stakes talks ended after 21 hours, Vance said, with the vice president in constant communication with U.S. President Donald Trump and others in the administration.

“But the simple fact is that we need to see an affirmative commitment that they will not seek a nuclear weapon, and they will not seek the tools that would enable them to quickly achieve a nuclear weapon,” Vance told reporters. “That is the core goal of the president of the United States. And that’s what we’ve tried to achieve through these negotiations.”

The vice president said he spoke with Trump “a half dozen times, a dozen times, over the past 21 hours” and also spoke with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Adm. Brad Cooper, head of the United States Central Command.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-israel-trump-lebanon-april-11-2026-2be904aee3f804892336730279e054b9
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***Looks like the peace talks are over*** (Original Post) spanone Saturday OP
They opened a big ol' can of worms! True Dough Saturday #1
why isn't the great dealmaker drumpf personally handling this???????????? Takket Saturday #2
Brain Spurs. Maru Kitteh Saturday #6
He is handling it, by phone, that is WHY they can not get a deal. Bev54 Saturday #40
Da fuck you talkin'? He's a great deal maker. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #46
Vance was probably his usual condescending dickish self and treated the Iranians Ocelot II Saturday #3
It sounds like our way or the highway....so one meeting, eh? spanone Saturday #5
They negotiated for a whole 21 hours. Red Mountain Yesterday #52
+1 dalton99a Saturday #35
That's quite a visual and probably very accurate. chicoescuela Saturday #43
PREACH IT OCELOT II Skittles Saturday #44
Yep BeneteauBum Yesterday #48
I think Jared and Witkoff were just there for the cameras underpants Yesterday #54
Of the 21 hours, I wonder how many were Vance critiquing their outfits. Scrivener7 Yesterday #55
country is in the middle of a war, and the president is at a UFC event, while the VP announced peace talks have failed Takket Saturday #4
Does he go in the dressing room and grab em leftstreet Saturday #11
ADVICE FOR YOU TAKKET Skittles Saturday #45
Being a diplomat is not a cosplay event. yellow dahlia Saturday #7
DOGE saw to it that those experts with the displacedvermoter Saturday #8
So much talent, experience, and institutional memory lost. yellow dahlia Saturday #14
Nothing efficient about what they did. It was destruction - plain and simple. yellow dahlia Saturday #31
" Send in the experts and someone with the skill sets. " AverageOldGuy Saturday #20
Yup. So much dismantling and destruction. yellow dahlia Saturday #32
Bluster Diplomacy thought crime Saturday #9
The US bombed Iran, but the US has "terms?" leftstreet Saturday #10
Has anyone asked Trump why the US, as the "winner" newdeal2 Saturday #22
The man can't place an order at a donut shop, SamuelTheThird Saturday #12
Meanwhile MSNOW is showing Rachel reruns & CNN Bill Maher reruns spanone Saturday #13
Is it polite to say: AverageOldGuy Saturday #19
looks like more war starting very soon rollin74 Saturday #15
Gotta empty the armories so Uncle Sam is forced to buy more from Trump's Donor Class Attilatheblond Saturday #33
Possibly, but we were losing aircraft at an unsustainable rate and, hopefully, don't want more of that. /nt artemisia1 Yesterday #50
Probably should have sent Tim Walz, much more likable guy. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Saturday #16
Gosh! Being such a natural diplomat, JD usually seems so lovable and is so good at getting folk on his side! struggle4progress Saturday #17
But he wrote a book about stupid people doing stupid things for stupid reasons! What's not to love? Scrivener7 Yesterday #56
Am I ever shocked and surprised AverageOldGuy Saturday #18
Damn does donald have him on zoom? Lifeafter70 Saturday #21
I heard trmp say today 'i don't care if we have a deal' spanone Saturday #28
He doesn't Lifeafter70 Saturday #30
So dweller Saturday #23
The couch at the head of the table was probably a bad idea. hay rick Saturday #24
The guyliner didnt help,either. BattleRow Saturday #27
Given the way he talked to Zelensky I'm not surprised they told him to FRO. BannonsLiver Saturday #25
JD Vance is about as undeserving as Jay Leno with regards to prominent positions. Crowman2009 Saturday #26
Like we expected anything else from this group. Figarosmom Saturday #29
Well that was quick! orangecrush Saturday #34
I remember the old time 'shuttle diplomacy' where envoys would fly back & forth spanone Saturday #36
When you have no cards - no deal blue blues Saturday #37
Jesus Christ spanone Saturday #38
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Saturday #39
Wow, after listening to the local news kacekwl Saturday #41
Trump surrendered Tuesday, and usually Johonny Saturday #42
The guy can't make plausible small talk in a doughnut shop. Aristus Yesterday #47
I'm sure there were no good faith negotiations...only an ultimatum BeneteauBum Yesterday #49
So Trump wants the Obama deal that he trashed. C_U_L8R Yesterday #51
Traitors. spanone Yesterday #53
Yep malaise Yesterday #57
Toothpaste back into the tube Ruby the Liberal Yesterday #58

True Dough

(26,864 posts)
1. They opened a big ol' can of worms!
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:57 PM
Saturday

And now we'll all suffer more consequences. Complete shit show!

Maru Kitteh

(31,835 posts)
6. Brain Spurs.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:06 PM
Saturday

5 times over. The biggliest brain spurs like nobody has ever seen before.

Bev54

(13,455 posts)
40. He is handling it, by phone, that is WHY they can not get a deal.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:32 PM
Saturday

He has no idea how to do it. He only knows how to bully not how to negotiate.

3Hotdogs

(15,403 posts)
46. Da fuck you talkin'? He's a great deal maker.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:04 AM
Yesterday

He even wrote a book about how to do it.

Why just last week, a message came from Iran headquarters through diplomatic channels. "Sir, we don't want to negotiate with you. We know we will lose out with any attempt to reach a deal. You're too good at it. Please send your son, Fredo to negotiate Or maybe Tommy Tuberville and we will happily begin negotiations. But Sir, you are too good at negotiating,."

"It was like when I negotiated the end of the conflict with Nicar ---or maybe it was Venezuela. Nobody had ever seen anything like it."

Ocelot II

(130,755 posts)
3. Vance was probably his usual condescending dickish self and treated the Iranians
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:04 PM
Saturday

like he treated Zelenskyy, while Witkoff and Kushner just sat there smiling stupidly with their peckers in their hands.

Red Mountain

(2,358 posts)
52. They negotiated for a whole 21 hours.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:10 AM
Yesterday

Worked REALLY hard.

Will probably have spent more time in the air getting there and back than negotiating.

underpants

(196,746 posts)
54. I think Jared and Witkoff were just there for the cameras
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:53 AM
Yesterday

The Iranians were very clear that they wouldn’t talk to either of them. This seems to be Trump and J. V. having them there in a “YOU can’t tell ME what to do” kind of way.

Takket

(23,733 posts)
4. country is in the middle of a war, and the president is at a UFC event, while the VP announced peace talks have failed
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:04 PM
Saturday

every time i think drumpf and the USA have hit rock bottom.......... another day happens

Skittles

(172,026 posts)
45. ADVICE FOR YOU TAKKET
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:58 PM
Saturday

there *IS* no low for repukes; they will always, ALWAYS find a way to go lower.....GUARANTEED

yellow dahlia

(6,108 posts)
7. Being a diplomat is not a cosplay event.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:07 PM
Saturday

Send in the experts and someone with the skill sets.

But no! They sent in the clowns.

newdeal2

(5,486 posts)
22. Has anyone asked Trump why the US, as the "winner"
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:40 PM
Saturday

Is negotiating in the first place? I always thought the victor imposes the terms on the loser.

SamuelTheThird

(1,197 posts)
12. The man can't place an order at a donut shop,
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:19 PM
Saturday

and he's spearheading tis extremely difficult negotiation?

rollin74

(2,324 posts)
15. looks like more war starting very soon
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:23 PM
Saturday

the U.S. has been reloading with a lot more ammo coming into the region over the past several days

we'll have to see if Trump now makes good on his threat of massive infrastructure attacks

artemisia1

(1,892 posts)
50. Possibly, but we were losing aircraft at an unsustainable rate and, hopefully, don't want more of that. /nt
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:39 AM
Yesterday

struggle4progress

(126,362 posts)
17. Gosh! Being such a natural diplomat, JD usually seems so lovable and is so good at getting folk on his side!
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:29 PM
Saturday

Scrivener7

(59,714 posts)
56. But he wrote a book about stupid people doing stupid things for stupid reasons! What's not to love?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:00 AM
Yesterday

And then he ...

Well, that's all he did. But Peter Theil likes him!

Lifeafter70

(1,091 posts)
21. Damn does donald have him on zoom?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:40 PM
Saturday

"with the vice president in constant communication with U.S. president Donald Trump and others in the administration. "
I just saw him shaking hands with Rogan at the UFC fights in Florida with his new best bro Rubio.

They must have brought the "cone of silence" with them.

spanone

(141,762 posts)
28. I heard trmp say today 'i don't care if we have a deal'
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:57 PM
Saturday

And MARCO RUBIO SECRETARY OF STATE is at a FUCKING fake boxing match.

Figarosmom

(12,283 posts)
29. Like we expected anything else from this group.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:57 PM
Saturday

Iran has absolutely no incentive not to build the bomb now. Why would they say yeah, sure, we will just let you destroy us without trying to defend ourselves?

spanone

(141,762 posts)
36. I remember the old time 'shuttle diplomacy' where envoys would fly back & forth
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:20 PM
Saturday

trying to come to means to end conflicts....

spanone

(141,762 posts)
38. Jesus Christ
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:32 PM
Saturday

Here he is tonight. Working hard to end his War in Iran and make life more affordable for Americans like he promised.

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-04-12T01:37:39.461Z

Response to spanone (Original post)

kacekwl

(9,181 posts)
41. Wow, after listening to the local news
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:33 PM
Saturday

breathlessly talking about High Stakes negotiations like there are serious people involved.

Johonny

(26,302 posts)
42. Trump surrendered Tuesday, and usually
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:35 PM
Saturday

Post surrender you don't get the other side to agree to your former terms. I mean, duh!

Meanwhile Trump will declare victory and the war will or won't continue...

Aristus

(72,283 posts)
47. The guy can't make plausible small talk in a doughnut shop.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:32 AM
Yesterday

Why would anyone think he could handle negotiations in an international forum?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,680 posts)
58. Toothpaste back into the tube
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:26 AM
Yesterday

Guess what happens when you rip up an agreement, attack a sovereign nation - and lose.

Are we great again?

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