The Peace talks between the U.S. and Iran failed now there is a shock.

[Botany]

J.D. Vance was just on the airport tarmac in I think Budapest right before he left
for Pakistan to meet with the Iranians and he called them STUPID. Nice job J.D.!
Diplomacy is done by adults, it is done privately, and it is not done by calling the
other party stupid on television and now the firing our military leadership is just
one more fuck up too.

Btw having a war to try to distract from Trump’s raping of girls and his part in a
Child Sex Trafficking Ring was and is a never a good idea.

[agingdem]

1. I'm pretty sure the true sticking point was this:

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Trump wants a cut of the fees the Iranians are charging for passage of the Strait of Hormuz...and the Iranians said FUCK NO!!!...then again, the outcome was not unexpected considering Trump's top negotiators are The Three Stooges..(my sincere apologies to late Larry, Curly, and Moe)...

[karynnj]

27. I suspect that had that been the hold up, Iran would have agreed

I suspect the big problem was that Israel was not included and the US could not speak for it. Iran considered the attacks on Hezbollah to be part of the US Israel attack. They (and Pakistan) thought they were part of the ceasefire. In fact Israel, on the first day of the ceasefire, had the biggest attack on Lebanon. Eventually the US agreed with Israel that Lebanon was not included.

When something as big as what the ceasefire means is at question, how do you get a full "peace deal"? Not to mention, Vance has no experience as a diplomat and we know from the campaign he doesn't even have average people skills. Something tells me no diplomat, from any nation, would publicly call the negotiators he is flying to join "stupid". It does prove that in terms of emotional intelligence Vance himself is unusually stupid.

[agingdem]

28. Trump fired all the career negotiators

and anyone with knowledge of the Middle East ... instead he surrounds himself with inept Fox personalities and corrupt grifters...there is no one with any sort of gravitas that can restrain Trump's psychotic impulses...

Trump sent JD Vance, a crap-spewing idiot with zero negotiating experience, Jared Kushner, a self-dealing greedy aging frat boy, and Steve Witkoff, a billionaire with no diplomatic experience and ties to Putin, to clean up his catastrophic mess of a war..not surprising they were laughed out of the room...

[livetohike]

2. The whole negotiating plan is "Just do what

The Felon says.” This is a joke. Real estate developers and a “space cadet” as the negotiating team. Is Rubio hands off in this, or is he too stupid to join in?

[underpants]

3. Marco was busy at the UFC fight last night with Trump

Kind of telling that Trump sent J. V. Vance on a fools errand but he took Marco to Bro-land with him.

[livetohike]

6. The whole Cabinet is incompetent, inexperienced

and useless. Hopefully, the Sunday morning shows start to make this clear.

[Captain Zero]

9. Ah. Sunday morning shows already taped.

It could be press crickets on Sunday morning.

[underpants]

13. Meet the Press is live. Face the Nation is live and live-to-tape

This Week (ABC) is live too.

[underpants]

14. 3rd string JV

because no one with merit wants to have anything to do with the Clustertrump. With these firings, it’s like they are dressing members of the band or people right out of the stands.

[sop]

8. Trump will blame Vance for both Orban's defeat and the Iran failure.

[underpants]

12. Very likely. Trump wants them to fight it out for his approval

Apparently J. V. actually voiced his opposition to attacking Iran so Trump may just be punishing him for dissent…..and being right.

[travelingthrulife]

23. But did that handsome model win his fight last night?

Hope he didn't have to go home with Demento Donnie.

Tell us about your 'modeling' companies.

[Botany]

4. Isn't this real estate developer the same one who said that Ukraine should surrender 20% + of its land,

the minerals under its soil, let Russia have control over 1.5 to 2 million Ukrainian Citizens,
and a Russia gets to walk away from all of its war crimes and kidnapping of Ukrainian
children?

[livetohike]

5. Yes and didn't that work out well? The media should

be pounding on his “negotiating” team and how incompetent they are. Plus the fact that Little Marco is left behind to change The Felon’s diapers.

[tanyev]

10. "Do what Donny says or he'll post something batshit crazy on Truth Social about you."

“I’m not lying! He’ll do it!!!”


Iran:

[LSparkle]

18. That's exactly what they expected Iran to do

The cut-rate Bond villain has always gotten his way (he’s always been the boss) and has NO negotiation skills except the shakedown. (“You might as well just agree to what he wants because that’s how this will all end up anyway.”)

Surprise, surprise, surprise: Iran actually gets a say in this, unlike the employees and sycophants of Dr. No Brains.

[peppertree]

21. Little Narco has Cuba Derangement Syndrome

That's all the runt thinks about: how to bring back the Batista narco-regime (when he isn't thinking of nubile, white young men - for whom he has quite a weakness).

Suffice it to say, he knows precious little about anything else .

[travelingthrulife]

24. Prepping for our next bombing runs.

[underpants]

7. Did J. V. lead with "I know Peter Thiel!" ?

That seems to be the basis of his existence…other than writing a book about his summer’s getting picked on and settling scores (he thinks) at the end trashing everyone he wrote about.

I think it’s pretty telling that Trump sent him on this fool’s errand while Marco (the Sec. of State) was with him last night in Bro-land (UFC fight). But Trump does like to watch his underlings, like these two, fight it out for his approval.

[slightlv]

17. Oh, don't forget... Vance is in completely tight with the theocratic Dominionists

and they figure they're gonna pick up the pieces of the government once T is gone. They'll turn us from a kakistocracy to a theocracy toot-sweet, with Vance as God-Prez.

[underpants]

22. He's already got a pre-campaign book out.

[Botany]

26. J.D. is such a smarmy little shit.

He has a Methodist Church on the cover of his book about becoming a Catholic?

[William Seger]

11. The difference between the Three Stooges and that team

... is that the Three Stooges only pretended to be stupid.

[SergeStorms]

15. TrumpCo. gutted the State Department like a fish....

so there are no more diplomats to negotiate treaties.

Instead, we have grown men who've been arrested developmentally, who are wholly owned by corporate interests and personal greed, and have the negotiating skills of common amoeba.

What could possibly go wrong?

[Katinfl]

16. You cannot expect a deal to be done overnight when it took John Kerry and a team of professional

Mediators and negotiators two and a half years to get one worked out. You cannot send in amateurs to do a pro’s job. This was a joke from the get-go. I really don’t think most people realize that this was all worked out in the Kerry deal that trump ripped up. It was a done deal with Iran.

[Botany]

19. That deal made it impossible for Iran to ever build a nuclear weapon and it gave the I.A.E.A. the (international

agency on atomic energy*) the right to inspect anywhere in Iran 24/7. Trump ripped up that deal and
now he wants that exact same deal back in place. President Obama, Secretary of State Kerry, and
Sec. of Energy Moniz was as good as it gets and the polar opposite from what we have now. If there
is any real justice in this world Trump should be put on trial for his war crimes against Iran.

* which was a good deal because America could stay out of it.

[Katinfl]

20. Makes it harder to get a deal done when Iran doesn't trust the US.

It had a deal, deal off, now the US wants another one? Especially with trump who cannot be trusted with anything? Good luck with that. They will come back empty-handed and he will blame them for this whole fiasco. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[travelingthrulife]

25. Don't count on our illustrious media to remind We the People of that fact.

[Jilly_in_VA]

29. Everything Shitler touches dies

and it looks like everything Shady touches goes the same way.