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Trump doesn't know shit. (Original Post) Swede Yesterday OP
Supply and demand, just one of everything on Earth Johonny Yesterday #1
Stockman? That's a blast from the past. He's one of the architects of "reducing fraud, waste and abuse". Midnight Writer Yesterday #2
+1 dalton99a Yesterday #4
Didn't Stockman invent the term "trickle-down economics"? FakeNoose 15 hrs ago #38
The term had a long history: dalton99a 15 hrs ago #39
He is a blast from the past karynnj Yesterday #5
Exactly! In 1984, who of us would have thought.... paleotn Yesterday #7
Let's hope that it moves in a better direction, not worse. karynnj Yesterday #8
You and me both! paleotn Yesterday #9
I never thought I would ever agree with Stockman. Just goes to show, even a stoppd clock is right twice a day. flashman13 Yesterday #12
But so far today, he's only been right once...... lastlib 19 hrs ago #32
Kick dalton99a Yesterday #3
He doesn't KNOW shit yet manages to be FULL of shit. 3catwoman3 Yesterday #6
And sitting in shit...... BeneteauBum Yesterday #22
Yes Donald, "our FIGHT FOR FREEDOM in Iran". OGBuzz Yesterday #10
"So listen up MAGA:" sop Yesterday #11
This is a fight for Freedom To Take Their Shit... BurnDoubt Yesterday #13
Anyone who has the temerity to not genuflect to the art of the steal. BattleRow Yesterday #17
Ding! Ding! Ding!!!! Bonus points for use of the word "genuflect"! BurnDoubt Yesterday #23
Just don't say genuflect around Hegseth. wnylib 18 hrs ago #37
Trump only knows how to spew shit. Historic NY Yesterday #14
Donny.... SergeStorms 22 hrs ago #28
Sorry to inform you, Mr. Stockman... OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #15
Anyone who knows enough to advise him on this was fired IronLionZion Yesterday #16
Billionaires Gouging Millionaires modrepub Yesterday #18
trump's goal is destruction of the USA as we knew it. he has destroyed mucifer Yesterday #19
Sorry David Stockman but you're wrong. Glaisne Yesterday #20
Bats aren't blind. I wish someone would correct David Stockman on this. n/t marked50 Yesterday #21
None so blind as those who can't (won't) see. BurnDoubt Yesterday #24
trmp IS shit spanone Yesterday #25
Yeah, I'm starting to think he's a little dim BaronChocula 23 hrs ago #26
Stockman has told the truth about a lot of things. Kid Berwyn 23 hrs ago #27
I'd be happy if some farmer wants to... mwooldri 21 hrs ago #29
TRUMP KNOWS HIS FERTILIZER, THAT'S FOR SURE. ColoringFool 20 hrs ago #30
So many of these politicos "see the light" when they're out of politics. Too bad they don't "see the light" when they're Fil1957 20 hrs ago #31
Hey Donny... take your grifting market-manipulating family..... Blue Owl 19 hrs ago #33
Can I say soybeans have your back since when blue blues 19 hrs ago #34
Blind as a bat, dumb as bat shit RainCaster 19 hrs ago #35
That's not fair to say... Dan 18 hrs ago #36

Johonny

(26,298 posts)
1. Supply and demand, just one of everything on Earth
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:48 AM
Yesterday

That Trump doesn't understand. He truly is a complete moron. Who voted for this fuckfaced idiot? Sad.

Midnight Writer

(25,501 posts)
2. Stockman? That's a blast from the past. He's one of the architects of "reducing fraud, waste and abuse".
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:22 AM
Yesterday

As a hatchet man for Reagan, he loved screwing Federal workers and the underprivileged, all in the name of "balancing the budget". Of course, the Reagan tax cuts for the wealthiest got his full support.

As he was doing this, the Federal debt exploded, leading to decades of "borrow and spend" Republican policies.

The same Republican policies that have us in an endless cycle of increasing debt and cutting government services for the people.

Supply-side, my ass.

dalton99a

(94,512 posts)
4. +1
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:29 AM
Yesterday
In the November 1981 Atlantic Monthly article, Stockman said supply-side economics -- the backbone of the Reagan economic revolution - was a 'Trojan horse' that would ultimately benefit the rich.

The press seized upon his remarks as a big story and Stockman writes that White House imagemakers -- especially deputy chief of staff Michael Deaver -- wanted him fired for betraying the president.

Baker called him into his White House office and told him in no uncertain terms that Reagan's inner circle wanted him fired.

''If it weren't for me,' he continued, 'you'd be a goner already. But I got you one last chance to save yourself. So you're going to do it exactly like I tell you. Otherwise, you're finished around here,'' Stockman writes.

''You're going to have lunch with the president. The menu is humble pie. You're going to eat every last ... spoonful of it. ... When you go through the Oval Office door, I want to see that sorry ass of yours dragging on the carpet.''

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/04/12/David-Stockmans-famous-trip-to-the-woodshed-was-prompted/2637513666000/

FakeNoose

(41,845 posts)
38. Didn't Stockman invent the term "trickle-down economics"?
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:08 AM
15 hrs ago

I seem to recall that, but I can't be sure. Later on Stockman disavowed it, after Reagan was out of office. When Stockman was no longer working for the government, he made it clear that he never believed in the "trickle-down" theory. He thought it was a joke that people in the media bought it when it obviously was never going to work like that. The guy's an asshole, or at least he was back then.

dalton99a

(94,512 posts)
39. The term had a long history:
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 12:15 AM
15 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics

In 1896, United States Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan claimed in his Cross of Gold speech that his opposition based their policies on the idea that the success of the rich would "leak through" to the lower classes, stating: "There are those who believe that, if you will only legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, their prosperity will leak through on those below."[8][9][10]

In 1932, humorist and social commentator Will Rogers wrote a column criticizing Herbert Hoover's policies and approach to The Great Depression and stated: "The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy. Mr. Hoover was an engineer. He knew that water trickles down. Put it uphill and let it go and it will reach the driest little spot."[11] In 2007, political commentator William J. Bennett credited Rogers for coining the term "trickle down" and observed its persistent use throughout the decades since.[12] ...

Following Reagan's election, the "trickle-down" reached wide circulation with the publication of "The Education of David Stockman", a December 1981 interview of Reagan's incoming Office of Management and Budget director David Stockman, in the magazine Atlantic Monthly. In the interview, Stockman expressed doubts about supply side economics, telling journalist William Greider that the Kemp–Roth Tax Cut was a way to rebrand a tax cut for the top income bracket to make it easier to pass into law.[17] Stockman said that "It's kind of hard to sell 'trickle down,' so the supply-side formula was the only way to get a tax policy that was really 'trickle down.' Supply-side is 'trickle-down' theory."[17][18][19] Reagan administration officials including Michael Deaver wanted Stockman to be fired in response to his comments, but he was ultimately kept on in exchange for a private apology.[20] Political opponents of the Reagan administration soon seized on this language in an effort to brand the administration as caring only about the wealthy.[21] In 1982, John Kenneth Galbraith wrote the "trickle-down economics" that Stockman was referring to was previously known under the name "horse-and-sparrow theory", the idea that feeding a horse a huge amount of oats results in some of the feed passing through for lucky sparrows to eat.[22] ...


karynnj

(61,012 posts)
5. He is a blast from the past
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:30 AM
Yesterday

It shows how far off the Republicans have gone that he is attacking them from the left!

paleotn

(22,362 posts)
7. Exactly! In 1984, who of us would have thought....
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:14 AM
Yesterday

that we and Stockman would be on the same team 40+ years later? Or we and Rick Wilson for that matter. They were our sworn enemies once and now strange allies. The only thing weirder would be Lee Atwater if he'd lived.

A lesson for those who think "Trump-time" will last forever. It won't. What will the future be and when? Who the hell knows, but it won't be exactly like now. Maybe way different. That much we do know.

flashman13

(2,446 posts)
12. I never thought I would ever agree with Stockman. Just goes to show, even a stoppd clock is right twice a day.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:43 AM
Yesterday

lastlib

(28,357 posts)
32. But so far today, he's only been right once......
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:11 PM
19 hrs ago

He's more like a digital clock....power gets cut off, it flashes once and then, blanks.

OGBuzz

(374 posts)
10. Yes Donald, "our FIGHT FOR FREEDOM in Iran".
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:21 AM
Yesterday

Because Iran was just hours away from a full scale invasion of America, with their mighty navy parked just miles offshore from Mar a Lago. You f*cking mutt.

sop

(18,804 posts)
11. "So listen up MAGA:"
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:42 AM
Yesterday

"The GOP once stood for free markets, balanced budgets, sound money and rigorous observance of the Bill of Rights and Constitution. If you can't see that Trump is the sworn enemy of all four of
those principles, then you are blind as a bat."

BurnDoubt

(1,786 posts)
13. This is a fight for Freedom To Take Their Shit...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:44 AM
Yesterday

and a warning to anyone else that refuses "The Art Of The Deal".
Make No Mistake.

BurnDoubt

(1,786 posts)
23. Ding! Ding! Ding!!!! Bonus points for use of the word "genuflect"!
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:25 PM
Yesterday

That's REALLY the crux of the biscuit here in the upside-down.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,247 posts)
15. Sorry to inform you, Mr. Stockman...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:49 AM
Yesterday

They are blind as a bat.

(Also completely delusional, but that is another matter....)

IronLionZion

(51,367 posts)
16. Anyone who knows enough to advise him on this was fired
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:58 AM
Yesterday

Hiring and promoting only loyalists leads to costly and stupid mistakes like this.



modrepub

(4,128 posts)
18. Billionaires Gouging Millionaires
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:03 PM
Yesterday

Most farmers are millionaires and that's the only reason Trump has some interest in this topic. It will be somewhat interesting in seeing who he goes after. Hopefully, it will be one of the contributors to his library, ballroom or some other grifts he's got going.

Oh, and bats may be blind eyesight, but they can see well enough to feed, take care of themselves and their young and not destroy whole ecosystems, unlike the orange turd.

mucifer

(25,691 posts)
19. trump's goal is destruction of the USA as we knew it. he has destroyed
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:06 PM
Yesterday

EPA, CDC, FDA, FEMA, Immigration, he's working on destroying social security, medicare, medicaid, foreign policy.

he doesn't care about his voters. his goal is destruction for whatever reason. I don't believe he thinks he's fixing ANYTHING.

Glaisne

(649 posts)
20. Sorry David Stockman but you're wrong.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:07 PM
Yesterday

The GOP never ever stood for free markets, which isn't a thing. They stood for rigged markets that benefited their cronies and harmed the workers.
The GOP never ever stood balanced budgets or sound money policy. They used that to bludgeon anyone who advocated spending money for the benefit of the people. Instead the GOP supported bloated and ever expanding budgets for war and tax cuts for the rich which expanded the debt and were not sound money policy. The stood for monetary policy that benefited the rich and harmed workers.
The GOP never ever stood for rigorous observance of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. The GOP continually violated or reduced the rights or marginalized or vulnerable people, essentially anyone who did not fit their narrow rich, white, fake Christian class. The GOP routinely violated the Constitution or twisted its meaning to benefit and expand its privilege and power.
The GOP was never a party of principles. It was always the party of power, greed and exclusivity.

Kid Berwyn

(24,603 posts)
27. Stockman has told the truth about a lot of things.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:57 PM
23 hrs ago

I don’t care if the Southwest Michigan product is a Republican. Stockman has stood for the Constitution and against the plutocrat class.

mwooldri

(10,819 posts)
29. I'd be happy if some farmer wants to...
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:19 PM
21 hrs ago

... deposit some "natural fertilizer" - free of charge - at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC. Or 1100 S Ocean Blvd, Palm Beach FL. Probably better off in Florida he can make use of it there easier.

Better yet they can spread it for free.

Fil1957

(725 posts)
31. So many of these politicos "see the light" when they're out of politics. Too bad they don't "see the light" when they're
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:37 PM
20 hrs ago

in government and have the power to do something positive.

Thanks for nothing Mr. Stockman!

Blue Owl

(59,235 posts)
33. Hey Donny... take your grifting market-manipulating family.....
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:14 PM
19 hrs ago

and FUCK ALL THE WAY OFF, every last one of you.

blue blues

(71 posts)
34. Can I say soybeans have your back since when
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:42 PM
19 hrs ago

Did farmers ever get the bailout money from the last trump disaster?

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