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angrychair

(12,462 posts)
Fri May 8, 2026, 10:58 AM 18 hrs ago

Virginia Redistricting is Dead

The court ruled that the state’s Democratic-led legislature violated procedural requirements when it placed the constitutional amendment on the ballot to authorize the mid-decade redistricting. Voters narrowly approved the amendment April 21, but the court’s ruling renders the results of that vote meaningless.


Yet again Republicans seem to come out on top.
It's literally like we are cursed. Not sure how Republicans can, very literally, rape and steal and grift with impunity and it all still works out for them but Democrats seem to go one step forward, two steps back, every single time.

I shudder to think what the second half of this administration would like if Republicans retain control of the House and Senate. If all the Southern states redistrict, especially in light of this turn of events, we may be facing a permanent Republican majority. Our country will not survive that.
Reference: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2026-05-08/virginia-supreme-court-strikes-down-democrats-redistricting-plan-dimming-partys-midterm-hopes
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Virginia Redistricting is Dead (Original Post) angrychair 18 hrs ago OP
Now, imagine this... our hopes are in the Florida state courts that they'll strike down the Florida map 😂 In It to Win It 18 hrs ago #1
DeSatan installed all but 1 justices on the FLSC. I don't have high hopes here. Lochloosa 17 hrs ago #12
Agreed. I'd be shocked if they actually strike down the map before the primaries. In It to Win It 17 hrs ago #17
Trump said if you put him back in office Emile 17 hrs ago #2
Great. 🤬 underpants 17 hrs ago #3
It's what happens when only one side plays by the rules and always takes the high road. OGBuzz 17 hrs ago #4
Truth Six117 15 hrs ago #45
If only there was some economic solution to all this. OGBuzz 15 hrs ago #54
The USA is the biggest heap of bullshit on earth 31st Street Bridge 15 hrs ago #46
Dead for this year, not forever Fiendish Thingy 17 hrs ago #5
True angrychair 17 hrs ago #10
Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #20
That was before voter disenfranchisement angrychair 15 hrs ago #38
Sorry to hear you have bought the mythology Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #61
Thanks for pointing this out. ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #51
Exactly. There have been dozens of special elections since 2024 Wednesdays 11 hrs ago #68
I don't trust any of those Trump voters or MAGA to do the right thing Bengus81 14 hrs ago #60
They're already doing it Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #63
There is no world the GOP win the House. mr715 16 hrs ago #32
So why didn't you post that fact? Kingofalldems 13 hrs ago #64
Why can't they call an emergency session? Diraven 15 hrs ago #47
It wouldn't create the missing "intervening election" FBaggins 11 hrs ago #74
Why is it dead? Baitball Blogger 17 hrs ago #6
State Law Matter Aepps22 17 hrs ago #7
Yes, but in the law, no one prevails if they don't seek novel ways using the Court's own system of Baitball Blogger 17 hrs ago #9
two can be denied by state legislature in 2028 but they house must stay blue. GreenWave 16 hrs ago #22
There was a MAJOR thing that happened in popsdenver 15 hrs ago #39
it's not the law that matter but the judges who interpret it AlexSFCA 10 hrs ago #77
Florida, in particular, will have to overcome state law as well... assuming the state courts give a fuck. In It to Win It 17 hrs ago #8
Yep. I wouldn't hang my hat on this one. Baitball Blogger 17 hrs ago #11
Neither would I In It to Win It 17 hrs ago #14
Narrator: Florida courts do not, in fact, care angrychair 17 hrs ago #13
Florida............... popsdenver 15 hrs ago #41
The article explains why. The legislature violated the set of rules laid out. Celerity 17 hrs ago #15
More details for non-Virginians AverageOldGuy 16 hrs ago #33
Florida is breaking its own state Constitution to redistrict. Baitball Blogger 15 hrs ago #50
I think that Florida should be blocked from breaking its own rules/laws as well. Same for all states, both Red and Blue. Celerity 15 hrs ago #53
It's part of the state constitution, not just a law Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #21
Thank MW67 7 hrs ago #80
Passing it requires an intervening election FBaggins 16 hrs ago #31
Rupert Murdoch and the Heritage Foundation rigged the system. Initech 14 hrs ago #57
We are in hell Billsdaughter 17 hrs ago #16
Yup orangecrush 16 hrs ago #25
Tom "The Hammer" DeLay... GiqueCee 16 hrs ago #18
It better not be. If the governor and the state party take this lying down, we're cooked. Queso Delicioso 16 hrs ago #19
Agree orangecrush 16 hrs ago #23
True, but the only recourse is taking it to the SCOTUS. FSogol 16 hrs ago #27
That is the opposite of recourse In It to Win It 16 hrs ago #28
The chance of the Republican USSC doing any good popsdenver 15 hrs ago #43
I don't think scotus has jurisdiction in cases involving state law spooky3 14 hrs ago #55
There's always "ignore the court, do it anyway" Queso Delicioso 14 hrs ago #62
This orangecrush 16 hrs ago #24
That's irrelevant to the state constitution EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #56
Gonna be one long hot sumner orangecrush 16 hrs ago #26
Oh believe me....... popsdenver 15 hrs ago #44
Hillary said that in 90's... Wednesdays 11 hrs ago #70
Well....... popsdenver 11 hrs ago #73
I fault my home state...Texas. Our Governor (Abbott) willingly and happily kissed Trump's ass and start the entire mess. walkingman 16 hrs ago #29
Regular DU readers will get tired of my saying this but I'll keep on saying it: AverageOldGuy 16 hrs ago #30
But if Republicans won would the court have blocked block it? ChicagoTeamster 16 hrs ago #34
No, because Rupert Murdoch has rigged the system. Initech 16 hrs ago #36
absolutely blubunyip 15 hrs ago #42
Bullshit. Fuck MAGA. Fuck Fox. Fuck them to fucking hell. Initech 16 hrs ago #35
Not happy with this but we are beating their ass in November and VA can still gerrymander later! OrlandoDem2 15 hrs ago #37
Then they should just do it using the same rationale Figarosmom 15 hrs ago #40
Virginia and California let THE VOTERS decide on their redistricting AdamGG 15 hrs ago #48
So basically what's going to happen now Diraven 15 hrs ago #49
Except that's not true EdmondDantes_ 7 hrs ago #81
Dead, or shelved? EnergizedLib 15 hrs ago #52
This was a 4-3 ruling by the Virginia Supreme Court. Lasher 14 hrs ago #58
And America along with it Takket 14 hrs ago #59
We're in civil war. The south attempts return to Jim Crow. Drumpf threatening nuclear, and SCOTUS is in his pocket. Evolve Dammit 13 hrs ago #65
We HAVE been in a civil war, since B.See 10 hrs ago #75
When the people are denied all legal and nonviolent means of effecting change... Orrex 12 hrs ago #66
That's basically a paraphrase of AdamGG 11 hrs ago #67
We're closer than we've been in a long time misanthrope 11 hrs ago #72
It's almost as though our president is doing everything in his power Orrex 8 hrs ago #78
This may have beenmentioned up the chain here, but why then can the Democrats not just gerrymander anyway like the GOP Scalded Nun 11 hrs ago #69
Because they knew how to play the long game misanthrope 11 hrs ago #71
This is when you know for sure the fix is in. OhioBack2Blue 10 hrs ago #76
So if MW67 8 hrs ago #79
Just watch SSJVegeta 5 hrs ago #82
Why? raising2moredems 5 hrs ago #83
They are not winning. HeartsCanHope 3 hrs ago #84

In It to Win It

(12,776 posts)
1. Now, imagine this... our hopes are in the Florida state courts that they'll strike down the Florida map 😂
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:11 AM
18 hrs ago

Six117

(362 posts)
45. Truth
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:36 PM
15 hrs ago

Which begs the question, why continue to play by rules that are obviously intended to keep us down?

We should and can do better.

OGBuzz

(505 posts)
54. If only there was some economic solution to all this.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:53 PM
15 hrs ago

The 24 blue states generate 60% of the U.S. GDP.
In 2020 Trump carried 2,497 counties which accounted for 30% of U.S. GDP, and Biden carried 477 counties which accounted for 70% of the U.S. GDP.
Without blue America, red America would be a third world country.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,902 posts)
5. Dead for this year, not forever
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:34 AM
17 hrs ago

The ruling laid out what was wrong with the process, which the legislature can reverse engineer and try again, probably next year.

angrychair

(12,462 posts)
10. True
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:43 AM
17 hrs ago

But by then it will be too late and Republicans could very likely stay in control of the House and Senate for the remainder of his current term and I don't see how we get out of this with our country intact with another two years of this.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,902 posts)
20. Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:34 PM
16 hrs ago

With 2024 Trump +20 districts swinging 15-30 points to the Dems in election after election over the past year, even the desperate Hail Mary gerrymandering won’t save them.

angrychair

(12,462 posts)
38. That was before voter disenfranchisement
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:18 PM
15 hrs ago

And before this state supreme court loss as well. It's before a formal election which I am positive will include armed (frozen water) and likely even armed military troops stationed outside polling locations harassing people or intimidating people as they approach their polling stations.
Republicans have no intentions of giving up control of government peacefully.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,902 posts)
61. Sorry to hear you have bought the mythology
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:05 PM
14 hrs ago

For everyone else, never forget this one absolute truth:

Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless.

Their desperate Hail Mary gerrymandering won’t save them.

ShazzieB

(22,816 posts)
51. Thanks for pointing this out.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:48 PM
15 hrs ago

I know Dems have had a lot of wins since Trump 47 took office but I haven't been keeping close track. That sounds even better than I realized.

No matter what else happens in the next 6 months, I know the midterms are going to be a nail biter for a lot of us just because the stakes are so high. But victory will be even sweeter if Demicrats can blow past all these nakedly desperate attempts to steal congressional seats from us!

Wednesdays

(23,035 posts)
68. Exactly. There have been dozens of special elections since 2024
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:22 PM
11 hrs ago

...and the only Democratic loss that I know of was Georgia-14 (MTG's former district). And even then, Democrats gained 15 percent over the last election.

Bengus81

(10,333 posts)
60. I don't trust any of those Trump voters or MAGA to do the right thing
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:57 PM
14 hrs ago

Talk is big by RW'ers when interviewed months away from an election. Hell, I figured Harris for a at least 10 point victory when Trump told everyone he'd be a dictator if re-elected.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,902 posts)
63. They're already doing it
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:09 PM
14 hrs ago

They elected Dems for mayor in Miami, flipped state seats in Texas, and even put 3 Dems on a utility board in Georgia that hadn’t had a Dem on it for 30+ years, and many, many special and regular elections in other states.

All of those wins would not have been possible if Republicans hadn’t voted for the Dem candidates.

Diraven

(1,940 posts)
47. Why can't they call an emergency session?
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:36 PM
15 hrs ago

And redo the districts right away? That's what all the southern Republican states did right after the SC struck down the VRA.

FBaggins

(28,729 posts)
74. It wouldn't create the missing "intervening election"
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:52 PM
11 hrs ago

The constitutional requirement isn’t that they vote twice… it’s that they vote twice with a general election in between.

So they can pass it again (for a new referendum) in November for 2028

Baitball Blogger

(52,679 posts)
6. Why is it dead?
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:36 AM
17 hrs ago

Why can't they follow the Supreme Court ruling and just pass it in the legislature?

You do realize that Florida and other states are going to do just that, right? It's not too late in this opera of corruption until the fat lady sings.

Aepps22

(409 posts)
7. State Law Matter
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:38 AM
17 hrs ago

This is a state law matter which is why this happened. The VA SC intentionally ignored the plain text of the VA constitution and prior precedence to come to this conclusion.

Baitball Blogger

(52,679 posts)
9. Yes, but in the law, no one prevails if they don't seek novel ways using the Court's own system of
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:42 AM
17 hrs ago

justice. The Right is singular at this, only because they break the ruling whenever it suits them. We just need to come up behind them using the sloppy path they left behind. In time, people will recognize that this bizarre world this crooked Supreme Court has set up for us is unsustainable.

popsdenver

(2,544 posts)
39. There was a MAJOR thing that happened in
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:19 PM
15 hrs ago

the 2000 election........The "States Rights" voting matters were violated by the U.S. Supreme Court, that had absolutely no legal standing or right to interfere in Florida's Presidential counting of votes.......But they did...................
The ABSOLUTE WORST THING..... is their corruption, having been allowed, became a precedent, that the Supremes could then use in the future....

That was only one of the countless number of things that the dems didn't protest BIG TIME in the past 46+ years.....
The Republicans have been playing multi dimensional chess since HWBush treasonously installed Reagan in 1980, while the Dems are STILL trying to learn how to play checkers.......

In It to Win It

(12,776 posts)
8. Florida, in particular, will have to overcome state law as well... assuming the state courts give a fuck.
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:41 AM
17 hrs ago

Baitball Blogger

(52,679 posts)
11. Yep. I wouldn't hang my hat on this one.
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:45 AM
17 hrs ago

I hope Alex Vindman prevails. But seriously, we have powerful Democrats here who have cozied up with Republicans for so long, that he would have to break the feudalistic good ole boy network that exists here. He allows even one of them into his breakfast circle and he can just assume that every GOP member will know what he's planning by lunchtime.

angrychair

(12,462 posts)
13. Narrator: Florida courts do not, in fact, care
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:46 AM
17 hrs ago

They are there to enforce the will of the Republicans in office.

popsdenver

(2,544 posts)
41. Florida...............
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:23 PM
15 hrs ago

The only state that could vote in, as one of their U.S. Senators, the CEO of a company that defrauded Medicare of 1.4 Billion....
...........UN-FATHOMABLE................

Celerity

(54,797 posts)
15. The article explains why. The legislature violated the set of rules laid out.
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:53 AM
17 hrs ago

snip

The case before the court focused not on the shape of the new districts but rather on the process the General Assembly used to authorize them. Because the state’s redistricting commission was established by a voter-approved constitutional amendment, lawmakers had to propose an amendment to redraw the districts. That required approval of a resolution in two separate legislative sessions, with a state election sandwiched in between, to place the amendment on the ballot.

The legislature’s initial approval of the amendment occurred last October — while early voting was underway but before it concluded on the day of the general election. The legislature’s second vote on the amendment occurred after a new legislative session began in January. Lawmakers also approved a separate bill in February laying out the new districts, subject to voter approval of the constitutional amendment. Judicial arguments focused on whether the legislature’s initial approval of the amendment came too late, because early voting already had begun for the 2025 general election.

Attorney Matthew Seligman, who defended the legislature, argued that the “election” should be defined narrowly to mean the Tuesday of the general election. In that case, the legislature’s first vote on the redistricting amendment occurred before the election and was constitutional, he told judges. An attorney for the plaintiffs, Thomas McCarthy, argued that an “election” should be interpreted to cover the entire period during which people can cast ballots, which lasts several weeks in Virginia. If that’s the case, he told justices, then the legislature’s initial endorsement of the redistricting amendment came too late to comply with the state constitution.

In January, a judge in rural Tazewell County, in southwestern Virginia, ruled that lawmakers failed to follow their own rules for adding the redistricting amendment to a special session last fall. Circuit Judge Jack Hurley Jr. also ruled that lawmakers failed to initially approve the amendment before the public began voting in last year’s general election and that the state had failed to publish the amendment three months before the election, as required by law. As a result, he said, the amendment is invalid and void.

snip

AverageOldGuy

(4,116 posts)
33. More details for non-Virginians
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:10 PM
16 hrs ago

Rural Tazewell County is in SW Virginia -- coal country, central Appalachia.

SW VA localities voted 75% - 85% for Trump.

Circuit Judge Jack Hurley Jr. is a local boy, comes from a long line of moonshiners and bootleggers.

Standing in front of the Tazewell County Courthouse where Judge Hurley holds forth is the statue of a Confederate soldier. The Confederate Monument in Tazewell County, Virginia, a white bronze "Common Soldier" statue erected in 1903, stands in front of the county courthouse at 101 Main Street. In November 2020, over 87% of voters rejected a proposal to relocate the statue, deciding to keep it in place.

Baitball Blogger

(52,679 posts)
50. Florida is breaking its own state Constitution to redistrict.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:46 PM
15 hrs ago

Not sure why the Dems are expected to follow State Law when the Red States aren't following suit.

Celerity

(54,797 posts)
53. I think that Florida should be blocked from breaking its own rules/laws as well. Same for all states, both Red and Blue.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:52 PM
15 hrs ago

Fiendish Thingy

(23,902 posts)
21. It's part of the state constitution, not just a law
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:37 PM
16 hrs ago

Changing the constitution in VA requires a very specific process, which, right or wrong, the court determined was not followed.

The legislature waited until the TX redistricting case had been adjudicated, which didn’t leave them enough time to follow the process without leaving any room for interpretation.

FBaggins

(28,729 posts)
31. Passing it requires an intervening election
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:04 PM
16 hrs ago

They’re required to pass it twice - with an election in between the two votes. So they can pass it a second time after November (to take effect in the ‘28 election)

Initech

(109,159 posts)
57. Rupert Murdoch and the Heritage Foundation rigged the system.
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:38 PM
14 hrs ago

The republicans think they own everything and are entitled to all the power. They will get theirs eventually.

GiqueCee

(4,625 posts)
18. Tom "The Hammer" DeLay...
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:30 PM
16 hrs ago

... promised his cronies and cohorts a permanent Republican majority. Looks like he might get his wish, God damn him to hell.

Queso Delicioso

(209 posts)
19. It better not be. If the governor and the state party take this lying down, we're cooked.
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:33 PM
16 hrs ago

If the people can vote, be told no, and we just wring our hands and say "oh well, we tried" then faith in the party will plummet even lower than it already has.

FSogol

(47,659 posts)
27. True, but the only recourse is taking it to the SCOTUS.
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:52 PM
16 hrs ago

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but not liking our chances.

popsdenver

(2,544 posts)
43. The chance of the Republican USSC doing any good
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:27 PM
15 hrs ago

for anything that favors the Dems, or citizens of the U.S. are about as good as pissing in the ocean and expecting it to change color.......

spooky3

(38,822 posts)
55. I don't think scotus has jurisdiction in cases involving state law
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:28 PM
14 hrs ago

Could be wrong—not an attorney

What they could do is repeat the votes in legislature following the constitutional process to the letter. Then do the referendum again. Elias may have a better way.

Can’t get it done in time for this fall but could for 2028.

For 2026, Dems could pick up 2 seats even without redistricting.

orangecrush

(30,969 posts)
24. This
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:49 PM
16 hrs ago


“…Despite the redistricting measure’s success at the polls, the justices were ultimately not deterred from overriding the voters.”
❗️❗️❗️

SammyTheCat (@sammythecat.bsky.social) 2026-05-08T15:02:22.317Z

EdmondDantes_

(2,015 posts)
56. That's irrelevant to the state constitution
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:32 PM
14 hrs ago

The court didn't say anything about the districts, just the process which is clear.

popsdenver

(2,544 posts)
44. Oh believe me.......
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:35 PM
15 hrs ago

as the Republican 2025 CABAL accelerates each and every day, things are gonna get a hell of a lot worse.............
You.Ain't.Seen.Nothing.Yet.Folks...........

(CABAL....the contrived schemes of a group of persons, secretly united in a plot)

Hillary Clinton was quoted back in 2016, saying that there was a "giant right wing conspiracy", and even dems laughed at her.....

popsdenver

(2,544 posts)
73. Well.......
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:44 PM
11 hrs ago

I seem to recall it from the debates during 2016.....so maybe she was just repeating it......It certainly was alot more applicable in 2016........

walkingman

(11,107 posts)
29. I fault my home state...Texas. Our Governor (Abbott) willingly and happily kissed Trump's ass and start the entire mess.
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:56 PM
16 hrs ago

AverageOldGuy

(4,116 posts)
30. Regular DU readers will get tired of my saying this but I'll keep on saying it:
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:04 PM
16 hrs ago
THE SOUTH HAS WON THE CIVIL WAR.

Initech

(109,159 posts)
36. No, because Rupert Murdoch has rigged the system.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:11 PM
16 hrs ago

Fox News has done more damage to the United States than Osama Bin Laden ever would or could.

Initech

(109,159 posts)
35. Bullshit. Fuck MAGA. Fuck Fox. Fuck them to fucking hell.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:10 PM
16 hrs ago

The government is ours. It does not belong to Rupert Murdoch no matter how much he believes he is entitled to it.

OrlandoDem2

(3,240 posts)
37. Not happy with this but we are beating their ass in November and VA can still gerrymander later!
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:16 PM
15 hrs ago

I hope the Democrats use this to rally voters. Democrats need to have a chip on their shoulder and go fight!

Figarosmom

(13,037 posts)
40. Then they should just do it using the same rationale
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:20 PM
15 hrs ago

Repubs are using. Supreme Court ruling blah, blah, blah.

AdamGG

(1,895 posts)
48. Virginia and California let THE VOTERS decide on their redistricting
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:39 PM
15 hrs ago

Abbott, Desantis, and the right wing car dealer in Missouri jammed their new maps through gerrymandered Republican state legislatures.

Yet, the voters of Virginia are invalidated in the courts, while the very partisan politicians in Texas are not. It's a rigged game. Madison and Hamilton and the rest would go back to the drawing board if they saw this.

Diraven

(1,940 posts)
49. So basically what's going to happen now
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:42 PM
15 hrs ago

Every Republican state will eliminate every Democratic district which is, of course, allowed. But if Democrats try to eliminate even 1 single Republican district, that's never allowed. Looks like Republicans will achieve a veto-proof supermajority in the House in 2026 and until the end of time then, regardless of how the vote goes. Even if any Democrat ever wins the presidential election again they can be immediately impeached and removed. I'm just done.

EdmondDantes_

(2,015 posts)
81. Except that's not true
Fri May 8, 2026, 09:56 PM
7 hrs ago

California redistricted just fine. Virginia would have if they followed their constitution. Utah had to redistrict in our favor.

Lasher

(29,645 posts)
58. This was a 4-3 ruling by the Virginia Supreme Court.
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:40 PM
14 hrs ago

All 4 Republicans voted to kill the redistricting plan, and all 3 Democrats dissented.

Takket

(23,777 posts)
59. And America along with it
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:45 PM
14 hrs ago

Now that rethugs are freely allowed to gerrymander out any blue dots and the courts rule the exact opposite for democrats, it’s highly unlikely democrats will win the house. Ironically we thought the senate was a long shot but now it is the only thing on the table.

This may be the death blow to America once and for all. Minority rule forever.

Evolve Dammit

(21,810 posts)
65. We're in civil war. The south attempts return to Jim Crow. Drumpf threatening nuclear, and SCOTUS is in his pocket.
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:46 PM
13 hrs ago

B.See

(8,755 posts)
75. We HAVE been in a civil war, since
Fri May 8, 2026, 06:29 PM
10 hrs ago

the Obama presidency.

Republicans secretly met the night of his inauguration and took an oath to undermine, oppose, and repudiate him at every turn.

Orrex

(67,348 posts)
66. When the people are denied all legal and nonviolent means of effecting change...
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:47 PM
12 hrs ago

then they will find other means of effecting change.

Orrex

(67,348 posts)
78. It's almost as though our president is doing everything in his power
Fri May 8, 2026, 08:45 PM
8 hrs ago

to weaken, isolate, diminish, and destabilize the nation for the benefit of the hostile foreign power to whom he's deeply in debt.

Almost.

Scalded Nun

(1,727 posts)
69. This may have beenmentioned up the chain here, but why then can the Democrats not just gerrymander anyway like the GOP
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:24 PM
11 hrs ago

is doing in other states.

What really disgusts and saddens me is that the only 2 state that has their redistricting plan halted by the court is one of the only 2 states that have had the voters go to the polls to approve the action.

And this is what the GOP calls a democracy.

misanthrope

(9,597 posts)
71. Because they knew how to play the long game
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:42 PM
11 hrs ago

This hasn't been overnight. They have been probing for a century. They have been planning and organizing for over a half century, starting with the Southern Strategy. The Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, the Kochs and right-win mediasphere, it is all part of a larger, more patient effort.

MW67

(212 posts)
79. So if
Fri May 8, 2026, 09:07 PM
8 hrs ago

Republican Governor's and state legislators can pass redistricting laws without a vote, could someone tell me why the Virginia Governor and legislators couldn't do that now? , They have the will of the people with them, if it's some state law that prevents it being done that way in VA. Change the law, with a clause that it sunsets on the last day of the current Governor's term , just like you know who ,would do

HeartsCanHope

(1,744 posts)
84. They are not winning.
Sat May 9, 2026, 01:44 AM
3 hrs ago

They are cheating. It may feel the same, but they are digging themselves a bigger and bigger hole. The anger against

the Trumplicans is palpable. More and more people are speaking out against them. We need to get the vote out--

in such large numbers we overwhelm them. That's how Hungary beat Orban. We can do it, too.

In the words of one of my favorite movies, "Never give up, never surrender!"

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