Fellow Marine corroborates Platner re tattoo

[mainer]

A Marine who served with Graham Platner in Iraq and got matching tattoos with him in Croatia pushed back on a new claim, published in the New York Times on Thursday, that they deliberately chose a Nazi-style symbol.

Fifield told the paper that Platner knew his skull-and-crossbones tattoo resembled a Nazi symbol and had called it “my Totenkopf.” Platner has consistently denied this charge, which was first reported by Jewish Insider and CNN in the fall. Fifield appears to have been the source for both of those stories.
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Phil Proschko, who served with Platner in the Marines, dismissed this claim in a brief interview with Zeteo on Friday.

“No, we did not purposely get hateful fucking shit because we’re racist people,” he said. “We got matching tattoos because we were in our 20s, drunk in Croatia, and that’s it. That’s all that fucking happened.”
Proschko, who participated in a Platner veterans town hall several weeks ago, told the story of their tattoos this way: “We went, we got matching tattoos that we pulled off the wall, or it was out of a book, I don’t remember. We thought it looked cool, something to commemorate what happened, all the people we lost in our unit in Ramadi.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/zeteo/p/platners-fellow-marine-pushes-back?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

[orangecrush]

1. Thank you for sharing this

Funny how this account isn't plastered all over the media like some right wing operatives bullshit.

[OrangeJoe]

14. Consider the source

Ms Lyndsey Fifield, who is leading the charge on this story, worked for The Heritage Foundation as a Social Media Manager, so yeah she's a pro at drumming up outrage. She was one of the founders of "Justice for Kavanaugh, building up support for that drunken frat boy and covering up his misdeeds. Take her story with a big grain of salt. The control of the Senate and another two years of Trump rampaging through our life is at stake. The right wingers are pulling out all stops to protect vulnerable Republican members.

[ret5hd]

2. so why not get it removed?

[SalamanderSleeps]

3. He has had it covered up.

Maine Senate candidate Platner says tattoo recognized as Nazi symbol has been covered

https://apnews.com/article/maine-platner-senate-trump-mills-tattoo-collins-fa8328a3c8aa5d5e0f34adb379e977b8

[Skittles]

7. how convenient

[Lancero]

11. So he didn't know what it was when he got it, but leaned into it later after finding out, only getting rid of it...

When it became politically problematic for him.

If he didn't have himself some political ambition, he'd still be wearing that shit with pride. To paraphrase another group, Pride in his Boys.

[mainer]

18. When did he lean into it?

The only person who says anything remotely like this is the female GOP operative who was quoted in the NYT article. She's the source for all the tattoo gossip. His fellow Marine, who got the same tattoo at the same time in Croatia, said they were drunk and young and had no idea it was a Nazi symbol.

[SSJVegeta]

13. To him it didnt symbolize hatred ever. It symbolized his dead friends who gave their life so he can go home.

Even knowing the origins, it didnt remotely symbolize to him hatred, but rather the deeply intertwined connections to the people in his unit.

He didn't wait to remove that tattoo in 2025 because he is a hateful nazi. But likely because it was one of the last material reminders of the people who paid the ultimate price.

Symbols aren't horrible because of what they intrinsically represent. They cant be, because they will almost always be subjectively interpreted. Their meanings are rooted on the actions of the people who carry them and the cultures that maintain them.

The swastika is similar but reversed. The longest known meaning of the swastika is not Nazism and hatred.

The swastika (known as "Manji" in Japan) is a Japanese Buddhist symbol that doesnt remotely represent hatred. It means good fortune, peace -and the footprint of Buddha.

But Hitler flipped it into something else entirely.

Platner's skull was the last remaining material reminder of the people who gave everything. He got rid of it because it offended other people. But the personal significance was beyond what any of us can imagine in the enormous sacrifices it represented by his friends.

[ret5hd]

27. his friends must feel really honored.

[SSJVegeta]

31. We honor the dead for ourselves. Not for them.

Doesn't really do any good for them considering...

[eShirl]

26. he got it tattooed over into a different design

[Uncle Joe]

5. Kicked and recommended

Thanks for the thread mainer

[ornotna]

6. Some people will never be satisfied

I accept his explanation.

Time to move forward.

[Celerity]

16. The accusation appeared in a story relating Lyndsey Fifield's experiences with Platner when they dated in the 2010s.

Fifield, a conservative activist who previously led a PR campaign defending Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh from allegations of sexual assault, accused Platner of being physical with her, among other claims.

Fifield told the paper that Platner knew his skull-and-crossbones tattoo resembled a Nazi symbol and had called it “my Totenkopf.” Platner has consistently denied this charge, which was first reported by Jewish Insider and CNN in the fall. Fifield appears to have been the source for both of those stories.

Jewish Insider

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Insider

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Jewish Insider has been characterized as right-leaning, neoconservative, and right-wing. The New Republic has described Jewish Insider as a pro-Israel media outlet which falsely accuses Israel's critics of antisemitism.

In September 2024, Jewish Insider published an article repeating a claim by Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel that Representative Rashida Tlaib had said Nessel was targeting pro-Palestinian protesters at the University of Michigan due to being Jewish. The false claim was debunked by the Metro Times. Jewish Insider later updated its article, revising the wording without adding a correction by changing "claimed" to "suggested".

[Ponietz]

8. Thanks for supporting Democrats!

[GenThePerservering]

9. Not sure why some people on this forum

don't remember being young, drunk and stupid. Or maybe they were always perfect.

[niyad]

12. I was young once, sometimes acted stupidly, but was never drunk. Far

from perfect, but not drunk. And no nazi tattoos.

[lostnfound]

25. Young, drunk, male and having just seen friends blown up in front of you

i can’t judge what someone does after witnessing such horror. Fatalism or bonding with others or self-mutilation via tattoo to externalize the grief or pain or guilt that is eating you inside.

Not gonna judge that.

[milestogo]

21. Some people were busy working their way through college and did not

spend their youth getting drunk and stupid. Lots of people, in fact.

[mainer]

32. Some people were serving their country as Marines

Or is that considered “not working?”

[EdmondDantes_]

24. When does that excuse stop working?

Okay you want to use it to excuse the tattoo and then his reddit comments. But does it cover mistreating women as recently as 2021? Does it excuse sexting outside of his marriage even more recently? Using retarded as a slur? At what point are our actions a reflection of who we are as an adult?

One of the key things I took from therapy is that your actions are the real demonstration of your values and if your professed values don't match your actions, you either have to change your actions to match or you're lying to yourself.

[Renew Deal]

33. They got over the young and drunk parts

[Boo1]

10. Guy with a Nazi tattoo

says what?

[Emile]

22. The last time I saw a picture of it, it looked like the

State of Ohio.

[BidenRocks]

15. There was not enough alcohol

to make me want a tattoo.
I was in the shops with friends. watching and thinking.
Ain't no way! What if I change?
Anyway, not a fan.

[mainer]

17. Getting rid of a tattoo is a painful, lengthy process

How many men would bother?

Tattoo removal is something where people really need to seek out the right treatment and usually that’s with a slow, methodical treatment approach in a dermatology office using either a Q-switched laser or pico-type wavelengths,” said Joel Cohen, MD, associate clinical professor of dermatology at the University of California at Irvine.

And that slow approach means your tattoo isn’t going to just disappear overnight. The process is pretty lengthy with multiple laser treatment sessions required to accomplish complete removal. Although it depends on the design, size, and color of your ink, laser tattoo removal can take 1 to 10 sessions, with 6-week healing periods in between sessions.

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a35614963/tattoo-removal-facts-cost-risks/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=mgu_ga_mnh_md_pmx_prog_org_us_22327065516&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22333585820&gbraid=0AAAAACrVUPltwk8buNGSjURTfDf9s2kX1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio_RBhDMARIsAJPveNOiOzWZeGqe1FCA-lft3hqgGQU_ocTXlYkVftXvMFaIWCmTDBCzup0aAkCyEALw_wcB

[milestogo]

19. Sounds like a defense of toxic masculinity.

Being in combat does not justify treating women like crap.

[mainer]

20. Right, so let's vote for the woman who'll take away women's rights

Because you just don't like the cut of this man's jib.

[Nanjeanne]

23. I do have a couple of questions...

Fifield - if I were in a relationship with a guy who bragged about a Nazi tattoo — I’d be outta there in a flash. Hey, Lindsey - if true why did you stay with a Nazi sympathizer?

Fifield certainly made it sound like this was something Platner was proud of having. So with all these other women in his life that he undoubtedly was naked with — did not one of them say “hey what’s this thing on your chest and why did he know proudly say that’s my Nazi tattoo”? Cause not a single other woman has mentioned him talking about this Nazi symbol.

And other than this tattoo - has there been any indication of Platner being a Nazi sympathizer? Organizations? Policies? Because nothing has come up that makes me believe he is. But I do know that Fifield - the only woman who has mentioned this — regularly tweets/retweets Stephen Miller- a real Nazi.

[AloeVera]

30. Lindsay is checking with her friend Bethany Mandel who coached her on her NYT story.

For a proper tesponse to your question.

But Bethany is busy writing for the New York Post and Washington Examiner. Or maybe she's still figuring out how to tie Platner with her Stolen Youth book. It's about how progressives are turning America's kids into moral degenerates.

[Dave Bowman]

28. Well, that's swell. 😕

[ProfessorPlum]

29. We have a chance to get rid of that lizard Susan Collins

and we are still debating this shit?

jesus wept