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A powerful read by a former Marine.
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We who have intimately seen ground combat know that every human being carries an animal inside of them. Most of you are fortunate enough never to meet it. A small number of people are forced to. And we learned things about violence, fear, courage, guilt, loyalty, and human nature that cannot be learned in a classroom, a think tank, or a Senate hearing room.
The value of that perspective is not that it makes someone more eager to use force. Quite often, it has the opposite effect. Those who know violence best are frequently the least romantic about it. They understand both its necessity and its cost. They understand that protecting a nations borders, interests, and citizens is a fundamental responsibility of government and must be done as effectively as possible, and that this does not mean as cruelly as possible.
What strikes me most about Platner is that he belongs to a tradition the American left has spent, at least the Trump years, searching for without fully realizing it. We have been waiting for our own version of General Grant: a flawed man, imperfect in his personal life, rough around the edges, but willing to fight relentlessly for principles larger than himself.
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gab13by13
(32,923 posts)If Magats win the Senate in 2028 I guarantee that Thomas and Alito will resign and we will get much younger versions of them.
House of Roberts
(6,679 posts)I doubt Thune needs any tips from McConnell on just how that is done.
summer_in_TX
(4,340 posts)Then Trump will nominate replacements. Thune has stated that the Senate is ready to confirm a replacement for Alito if he does resign.
Traildogbob
(13,225 posts)Retire, they will be out from under the immunity they have while seated, then justice can attempted for their buyouts. I hope. They, like Trump and Natty YaHoo need their positions to avoid prison.
I hope,
Walleye
(45,665 posts)wolfie001
(8,085 posts)Easily lead around by their nose like a bovine.
Hate to be so blunt but there really is no other explanation.
Walleye
(45,665 posts)Are we to assume that all Americans are racist and vindictive like our stupid president?
krkaufman
(13,974 posts)what I was thinking.
Polybius
(22,196 posts)In the last 75 days, he has overtaken John Marshall, John Paul Stevens, and Stephen Johnson Field. He has moved up from being the 5th longest-serving Justice to the 2nd, with a tenure of 34 years and 226 days. The only one left to surpass is William O. Douglas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Supreme_Court_justices_by_time_in_office
RockCreek
(1,537 posts)So almost 2 years to go, if he cares about the record.
I remember my horror listening to his confirmation hearings. I would have been even more horrified if I had known how long he would last in the position.
KPN
(17,548 posts)for so many frigging years. He never should have been confirmed such a failure of government for the benefit of its people, all of its people. Thirty-four plus years! Depressingly disgraceful!
Walleye
(45,665 posts)I am tired of everybody being treated like criminals. vote Democratic and defend the constitution
OldBaldy1701E
(11,678 posts)
Historic NY
(40,169 posts)Walleye
(45,665 posts)Dan
(5,317 posts)sop
(19,606 posts)their flaws."
"The question before Maine is not whether Graham Platner is perfect. The question is whether the United States Senate, the state of Maine, and the country as a whole would benefit from having his voice in the room when decisions are made...The answer is yes."
Great commentary. Thanks for posting this.
LisaL
(47,797 posts)state of democracy.
sop
(19,606 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,462 posts)...we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
SamuelAdams
(253 posts)It's funny listening to people who attacked Gore, Hillary, Biden, Kamala, etc. whining about purity tests.
stopdiggin
(15,727 posts)DFW
(60,573 posts)If only!!
calimary
(91,113 posts)I read that whole thing, yesterday. And yet again a second time, today. I may even wind up giving it a third go. It sure hits one outta the ballpark.
Nanjeanne
(6,746 posts)Passages
(4,567 posts)Hundreds of supporters signaled they werent phased by the new allegations about his past relationships, giving the Democratic Senate candidate a warm welcome on Friday.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/graham-platner-campaign-trail-controversy-maine-rcna348703
mainer
(12,624 posts)We know he's not a Nazi. We know he's gone through rough times and come out a better man. My son went to school with Platner's wife Amy. So yes, we know the man and we do have his back.
Passages
(4,567 posts)EdmondDantes_
(2,198 posts)He was doing ugly things as recently as a few years ago. He's still using retarded as a slur. He's still a big fan of a guy who thinks Israel killed JFK.
You say you know. How do you know? From the outside it feels performative because I don't see the actions.
mainer
(12,624 posts)When my kids were in high school, the "R" word was regularly used by teenagers as a synonym for idiotic or stupid. The meaning and impact of words change over time. Maybe you're not old enough to remember when we women used to refer to each other as "girls". As in "I'm going out with the girls." Now we get jumped all over on it because it "demeans women."
Are you going to condemn him for simple semantics?
SamuelAdams
(253 posts)If Trump is on tape using the n-word, that is fine because people of his generation used that word? I'm a gen Xer. My generation used slurs for gay people. Is that still acceptable?
MadameButterfly
(4,220 posts)Where's your pure as the driven snow candidate who can also beat Susan Collins?
Do you really think there will ever be a strongly Progressive candidate that the right won't dig up dirt about?
The former girlfriend who made the worst accusations literally wrote the speech Susan Collins gave to justify her vote for Bret Kavanaugh. Do you think she's really worried about how men treat women?
BComplex
(9,992 posts)war machine.
The more the media finds made-up "dirt" on Graham Platner, Bernie Sanders, AOC, Zoran Mamdani....the more I believe Graham Platner and the others. The price they pay to tell the truth is brutal.
Blue Full Moon
(3,714 posts)He was friends with confederate officers who were pall bearers at his funeral. Story I like, was his father was talking to a Senator, the person that was supposed to go to West Point didn't and Grant's father said, what about my son.
1WorldHope
(2,185 posts)Instead of putting real people in gov. We keep putting millionaires and we wonder why nothing changes.
Emile
(43,743 posts)I hope everyone on du reads it before throwing more shit about this veteran.
Passages
(4,567 posts)And I think it's important to have people who can show that, instead of a vision of masculinity that's hardened, shut off, and angry.
Link to tweet
Passages
(4,567 posts)The NYT calls it relatively sedate.
If you get your news from the Times, stop being stunned when events dont turn out the way you think they will.
Link to tweet
W_HAMILTON
(10,462 posts)The New York Times has been outted as political shills with double standards for most Democrats, but the same can be said for Ryan Grim.
Passages
(4,567 posts)Cha
(321,113 posts)to Russia, the last I heard.
My impression is that Grim hates Dems.
ShazzieB
(22,981 posts)I hate to give Eloon clicks, but I accidentally clicked the X link without meaning to. I figured I might as well post the image here so other people don't have to go to X to see what it says.

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Passages
(4,567 posts)due to the fact that every elected Democrat has an official account. President Obama does as well and posts from his Twitter account often. No reason to allow Musk to create a vacuum of propaganda.
dlk
(13,387 posts)Except Fetterman
RetiredParatrooper
(257 posts)We must always have said the proper words and held the proper beliefs!
Get the win, mainer!
Joinfortmill
(21,803 posts)Abolishinist
(3,074 posts)the tattoo controversy, I kept coming back to this. People often talk about people as if they fit neatly into categories. We create labels, political tribes, social groups, and stereotypes because the human brain naturally looks for patterns. In many ways, that tendency was probably useful throughout our evolution. Quickly deciding whether something was familiar or dangerous was a matter of survival. It was part of our fight-or-flight instinct.
The problem is that while categorization may be efficient, people are far more complex than the groups we place them in. Every individual is the product of thousands of experiences, influences, successes, failures, fears, and opportunities that no one else has lived through in exactly the same way.
I try to remind myself of that when I encounter people whose beliefs or values differ dramatically from my own. I have never served in the military, so I cannot truly know what it feels like to wake up knowing that by the end of the day I might die, or that I might be forced to take another person's life. I had a happy childhood, but many people grew up surrounded by abuse, poverty, instability, or trauma. Others experienced discrimination, violence, or hardships I never faced. Those experiences inevitably shape how people view the world.
Too often, we assume that if someone reaches a different conclusion than we do, it must be because they are ignorant, irrational, or malicious. But many times they are simply seeing the world through a lens forged by experiences we do not share. Their conclusions may be wrong, just as ours may be wrong, but understanding where those conclusions come from is often more valuable than dismissing them outright.
I don't believe we have to agree with everyone. In fact, there are beliefs and actions that should be challenged. But before judging others, it is worth recognizing that we are all operating with incomplete information. We know our own story intimately, but we can only glimpse fragments of everyone else's.
The older I get, the more I realize that understanding another person's viewpoint is not the same thing as endorsing it. It is simply acknowledging that human beings are complicated, and that most of us are shaped far more by our lived experiences than we realize.
mr715
(4,546 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(17,809 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(17,809 posts)It occurs to me that, while I still have issues with him, I may be too harsh in my assessment of him. I'm willing to give him a chance.
Pris
(173 posts)This is so old fashioned and male oriented.
Women lost their rights in the USA. And Platner (who many fawned over) called women terrible names and blamed women for rape. Female candidates are never admired for being rough around the edges but still fight for principals: Hillary, Kamala, Governor Janet Mills.
Democrats deserve better
"We have been waiting for our own version of General Grant: a flawed man, imperfect in his personal life, rough around the edges, but willing to fight relentlessly for principles larger than himself."