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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt appears our Government is lying to us about the Iran war...
But we lifted sanctions yesterday because Vance called this a major concession from Iran and great progress.
— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-06-23T09:35:53.520Z
malaise
(299,505 posts)You mean the US regime lied?😀
spanone
(142,232 posts)ananda
(35,791 posts)...
Katinfl
(938 posts)sindri
(74 posts)to always lie and act only in their own self-interest especially if it involves cruelty to others.
Bluetus
(3,273 posts)It is not wise to trust anybody with a vested interest in anything. But practically everything Trump has said since the beginning of this "excursion" has been a lie. I am trying to recall any similar lies that have come from the Iranians.
Srkdqltr
(10,128 posts)Just have to believe the side you trust. Oh ✋️ wait we can't trust either side.
EdmondDantes_
(2,272 posts)When all sides are known liars, it's best to not trust any of them.
Kaleva
(40,476 posts)Martin Eden
(16,035 posts)Readmission of inspectors was discussed as a possibility during current negotiations, but no actual agreement or protocols were reached at this time.
Vance is lying because the administration is desperate to show that Iran is making concessions. The Iranian spokesman is factually correct, but not telling the whole story.
Diplomatically, Vance claiming the concession has already been made when it has not, makes the concession less likely.
Trump sent amateurs to handle extremely difficult negotiations, and he handicaps them with lies, insults, and unhinged vascillating rhetoric which includes threats that violate the MOU -- actually threatening the lives of the negotiators.
The whole world sees this. It's painful to think about the depth and breadth of harm to America's reputation, and how long it may take to earn respect and trust again.
Nasruddin
(1,313 posts)We have to keep in mind all sides in this conflict are complete liars - not always in the same way or to the same ends.
Our side for example routinely lies to steer public opinion and reinforce the cult.
In addition the Boss lies to get himself out of sticky public embarrassments and probably to soothe himself. The man called Vance surely does the former. Then theres the Bosss confabulations.
We can only reason based on actions.
sboatcar
(918 posts)And then somehow they expect the cronies and low level folks that remain to be successful, particularly when the president tends to blow up the whole negotiation process is moving.
Timewas
(2,804 posts)Damn, who woulda thought?
Srkdqltr
(10,128 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,800 posts)Martin Eden
(16,035 posts)... than the Vice President speaking on behalf of the President of the United States, it is time to change the regime here at home.
Ray Bruns
(6,942 posts)
PatSeg
(53,994 posts)Fill in the blank. Might be easier to just list what our government HASN'T been lying to us about.
state of stupid
(243 posts)PatSeg
(53,994 posts)And the lack of public trust in government could be the point.
lastlib
(28,817 posts)I am APPALLED and SURPRISED!
Not.
Martin68
(28,281 posts)Torchlight
(7,219 posts)Tehran's assertion accurate, and just one more tall tale from Mr. trump's habit of saying anything except the truth.
SergeStorms
(21,034 posts)The Trump administration lied to us? 😭
Say it's not so, please!
What's the point of my life going on anymore?
dave99
(518 posts)MineralMan
(152,011 posts)spanone
(142,232 posts)Ocelot II
(131,777 posts)I don't trust Iran and I don't trust Trump's minions even more.
moondust
(21,375 posts)He should know and I doubt he would lie.
republianmushroom
(22,896 posts)What is this world coming to. Vance lying, damn.
snot
(11,927 posts)quoted Vance's claims about the agreement at great length, with little or no mention of Iran's disagreement on various important points.