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kid dies weighing 255 pounds. parents charged with 2nd degree murder (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 26 OP
murder? rampartd Jun 26 #1
The parents are accused of not taking the kid to a doctor for his health issues. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 26 #2
kids die of measles every day rampartd Jun 26 #3
If a child was dying from measles and parents LisaL Jun 26 #14
No doctor visits, no school either BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 26 #7
This is absolutely child abuse and as we see terminal Melon Jun 26 #4
More..boy was bedbound, eating mostly french fries and potatoe chips BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 28 #18
Basically, a junk food diet. LisaL Jun 28 #25
worse than junk food... no variety in the kind of junk food that he ate BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 28 #30
Horrifying details in that article senseandsensibility Jun 28 #32
proceded in death by younger brother... Jean-Luc Jun 26 #5
where did you read that? hookaleft Jun 26 #8
Obituary. Ms. Toad Jun 26 #11
The surviving sister LisaL Jun 26 #13
That is horrifying. yardwork Jun 27 #17
It's Pretty Bad When Parents Let a Child Weigh Almost As Much As Trump n/t lavoosh99 Jun 26 #6
No words malaise Jun 26 #9
I know mug shots are usually pretty awful GenThePerservering Jun 26 #10
The mechanism of death Boo1 Jun 26 #12
they look like I expected they would Celerity Jun 26 #15
OMG! Grim Chieftain Jun 26 #16
What a smiling pair they are DFW Jun 28 #24
There was a boy in my hometown roughly the same age and size Maru Kitteh Jun 28 #19
It's called Prader-Willi Syndrome VTderry Jun 28 #20
It absolutely does sound like hell on Earth for everyone. Maru Kitteh Jun 28 #21
I sincerely doubt that the kid had it. LisaL Jun 28 #23
I don't think the kid had Prader-Will Syndrome. LisaL Jun 28 #22
That was my first thought jmbar2 Jun 28 #28
This kid is described as bed ridden near the end. LisaL Jun 28 #29
If he was Prader Willi, he probably exhausted his parents long before he became bedridden jmbar2 Jun 28 #31
The child has such kind eyes senseandsensibility Jun 28 #26
If he was removed from the parents at some point in time, he might have had a chance. LisaL Jun 28 #27

rampartd

(5,781 posts)
1. murder?
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 05:15 PM
Jun 26

i don't know.

certainly, some kind of child protective situation, i might get to manslaughter but unless they were force feeding the kid .....

LisaL

(48,212 posts)
14. If a child was dying from measles and parents
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 10:38 PM
Jun 26

didn't take him or her to the doctor, I wouldn't be surprised if there were charges brought.

Melon

(1,994 posts)
4. This is absolutely child abuse and as we see terminal
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 05:43 PM
Jun 26

Why would that not carry a serious charge?7 years old a 250 pounds. The child should have been taken away long before this if someone would have reported them.

LisaL

(48,212 posts)
25. Basically, a junk food diet.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 03:06 PM
Jun 28

He also apparently haven't been to a doctor in nearly two years, despite father having medical insurance. I don't know if this qualifies as second degree murder, but it certainly sounds like severe neglect to me.

Ms. Toad

(38,968 posts)
11. Obituary.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 10:00 PM
Jun 26
https://www.sharpfuneralhomes.com/obituaries/casper-obrien

O'Brien, Casper Jacob Shane - Age 7, of Flint, passed away November 4, 2025. Funeral services will be held at 1:00 PM Saturday, November 15, 2025, at Sharp Funeral Homes, Miller Road Chapel, 8138 Miller Road, Swartz Creek. The family will receive friends from 11:00 AM until the time of service at 1:00 PM Saturday. In lieu of flowers, those desiring may make contributions to the family care of Damien O'Brien. Casper was born September 25, 2018, in Flint, Michigan, the son of Damien and Jessica (Gietzen) O’Brien. Casper was a bright, loving young boy whose joyful spirit touched everyone around him. He loved watching Super Monsters, especially his favorite character, Frankie Mash. He is survived by his parents, Damien and Jessica O’Brien; his beloved little sister, Illeana O’Brien; grandmother, Donna “Nana” Gooch; aunt, Mary (Tory) Ball; and uncles, Jay O’Brien and Elbert Leach. He was preceded in death by his little brother, Phoenix. Online condolences may be shared at www.sharpfuneralhomes.com

LisaL

(48,212 posts)
13. The surviving sister
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 10:34 PM
Jun 26

was also morbidly overweight. Would be interesting to know if she lost weight by now (I presume she was removed from these parents).
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/michigan-parents-charged-murder-7-year-old-son-rcna351984

GenThePerservering

(4,101 posts)
10. I know mug shots are usually pretty awful
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 07:51 PM
Jun 26

but those parents look AWFUL.

And yeah, upthread, both a kid dying of measles and this is really bad, but this is constant neglect and abuse - but I guess you don't care.

Boo1

(730 posts)
12. The mechanism of death
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 10:20 PM
Jun 26

here would probably have been him carrying so much weight on his frame that his heart couldn't physically pump blood because the fat was compressing it too much to beat effectively.

I've coached kids his age before, and even the biggest ones rarely weight over 100 lbs. He was 2.5x that. Everything that he ate to get that size, they had to give it to him.


2nd degree murder in Michigan would require that you can show the death occurred because the person put the victim in a position where severe bodily harm could happen and they were aware that it would likely end in death.

I think involuntary manslaughter would be an easier case to prove, but the fact that they didn't enroll him in school or take him to the doctor might be used to show that they were actively trying to hide his condition knowing that they would be in trouble because of it.

Grim Chieftain

(2,403 posts)
16. OMG!
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 11:52 PM
Jun 26

I hope they strap them to chairs and force feed them sticks of butter. No, I don't, I'm better than that but holy freaking hell!

Maru Kitteh

(32,153 posts)
19. There was a boy in my hometown roughly the same age and size
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 12:32 AM
Jun 28

There is a very real disorder that causes children to constantly, unceasingly seek food every moment they are awake. This child would wail pitiously in very real pain if he did not have food in his hands.

These parents are at first glance guilty of neglect, but there may be more to the story. It’s very sad in any case.

I do not know what happened to the boy in my hometown, as I moved away.

Maru Kitteh

(32,153 posts)
21. It absolutely does sound like hell on Earth for everyone.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 02:07 PM
Jun 28

It seems possible or perhaps even probable this child suffered from this issue. If so, I have some measure of sympathy for all of them. What a horrible affliction and what a tragedy. I’m guessing few people survive beyond early/mid adulthood in such circumstances.



LisaL

(48,212 posts)
23. I sincerely doubt that the kid had it.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 02:45 PM
Jun 28

Father looks to be very overweight himself. But males with this syndrome are usually infertile, so seems unlikely that the father would have produced multiple children if he had the syndrome to pass to his kids. Regardless, even if the kid had any sort of syndrome, doesn't appear that these parents took him to doctors to get him medical attention. Also, the surviving daughter is described as severely overweight. I think they were all eating junk food in large quantities.

LisaL

(48,212 posts)
22. I don't think the kid had Prader-Will Syndrome.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 02:39 PM
Jun 28

Parents look to be very overweight themselves. My guess they are eating large quantities of junk food day in and day out.

jmbar2

(8,297 posts)
28. That was my first thought
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 03:53 PM
Jun 28

In one of my first jobs out of college, I worked at a home for disabled kids.

The Prader kid was the most challenging because of how smart and determined he was to get at food, and how violent he got if he couldn't.

He could make amazing pizza from institutional bulk foods like pancake mix, ketchup, bologna, and American cheese.

LisaL

(48,212 posts)
29. This kid is described as bed ridden near the end.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 04:10 PM
Jun 28

He certainly wouldn't be able to get any food himself if he could not walk.

jmbar2

(8,297 posts)
31. If he was Prader Willi, he probably exhausted his parents long before he became bedridden
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 06:49 PM
Jun 28

Easier to give him what he wanted instead of treating him long-term.

LisaL

(48,212 posts)
27. If he was removed from the parents at some point in time, he might have had a chance.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 03:18 PM
Jun 28

But it doesn't appear that people knew about his condition. Last time he went to a doctor was nearly two years ago, and his weight was considerably less at that time (although even then it was clearly abnormal). He gained ~150 lb in less than two years.

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