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maxrandb

(17,579 posts)
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 07:36 PM Sunday

Woody Hayes was a hard-nosed football coach, but he was also a man of integrity

Bad calls happen in sporting events all the time. You dust yourself off and move on. You display sportsmanship. You don't have dad call the league to get calls overturned. My beloved Browns would have won a Super Bowl, or at least played in one, by now if those are the rules we're operating under now.

It's OK. It will just make the celebration that much sweeter when the Browns finally do go to and win a Super Bowl.

Woody Hayes was a walking, talking contradiction. Most will remember him only for the time he punched a Clemson player who intercepted a pass in the Citrus Bowl. Woody lost his job over that, as he should have, but he also had untreated diabetes that may have contributed to his abhorrent behavior during that game.

I want to share 2 anecdotes that come from a good book by long-time Columbus Sports writer Paul Horning; "Woody Hayes, Warts and All".

Despite an undefeated 8-0-1 season and a Big Ten championship, the university faculty rejected the bid to send Ohio State to the Rose Bowl, due to concerns over academic priorities and missing final exams. Hayes ultimately accepted the decision to prevent a deep divide between the athletic department and the university faculty.

"I don't agree with those 28 'no' votes, but I respect the integrity of the men who cast them, if not their intelligence. I would not want football to draw a line of cleavage in our university. Football is not worth that."

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During a Rose Bowl team luncheon. Woody Hayes grew frustrated that the luncheon program had not mentioned that former president Harry Truman had just died the day before. When it was his turn to speak. he didn't mention football at all, but instead, gave a 20 minute sololiqie about the life of President Truman, passionately recounted his time in the Navy in the summer of 1945, telling his players why Truman's legacy mattered and giving him the credit for saving him from the impending invasion of Japan.

When they asked Hayes why he, a Republican, devoted his speech to honoring President Truman, he said; "dagnamit! A former president of the United Stated had just died, and nobody was saying a word about him. I couldn't let that stand."


If the USA team has integrity, they would sit Folarin Balogun against Belgium, despite the corrupt FIFA Board capitulating to the master of corruption.

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Woody Hayes was a hard-nosed football coach, but he was also a man of integrity (Original Post) maxrandb Sunday OP
great post Celerity Sunday #1
Can't agree...... MyOwnPeace Sunday #2
" You don't have dad call the league to get calls overturned." Prairie Gates Sunday #3
Hoody Wayes was an absolute shit who got relatively good football results unblock Sunday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Sunday #5
Lt. Cmdr. Woody Hayes, USN Kid Berwyn Monday #6
Disagree ProfessorGAC Monday #7

MyOwnPeace

(17,706 posts)
2. Can't agree......
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:01 PM
Sunday

The ‘Coach’ has several clips on YouTube being abusive - one to the Clemson player and one attacking a sideline cameraman.

Striking the football player was a terrible example of sportsmanship - attacking the cameraman was attacking the hand that feeds you - the media fed the growth of scholastic sports in our country.
Both were terrible examples from a coach who was to be a leading example of sportsmanship and integrity.

Prairie Gates

(8,772 posts)
3. " You don't have dad call the league to get calls overturned."
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:06 PM
Sunday

Exactly what seems to have happened. A disgrace and embarrassment for US soccer.

Belgium should put them to the absolute sword.

unblock

(56,326 posts)
4. Hoody Wayes was an absolute shit who got relatively good football results
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 08:13 PM
Sunday

largely by abusing (physically and emotionally; I don't think he was ever accused of anything sexual) the players and cheating them out of an actual education and forcing them to over-prioritize football.

He did not lose his "real" job, he was only fired as head coach. He remained as a tenured professor of military history, a position he also abused to serve the interest of football by giving his players whatever grade they needed to stay on the team, provided they played well enough. He even berated other professors if needed to keep his players qualified.

Sorry, grew up a mile from him, father on OSU faculty, I grew up with a hundred stories about this piece of shit.

Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Kid Berwyn

(25,684 posts)
6. Lt. Cmdr. Woody Hayes, USN
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:33 PM
Monday


Bio Excerpt…

It was here that he met and married his wife Anne. At around the same time, Hayes enlisted in the United States Navy in July 1941, six months before Pearl Harbor.

“People talk about how devoted Woody is to football, he was just as dedicated to the Navy,” Anne Hayes said. “Why, we had been married only five days when he asked for sea duty. He didn’t get it at once, but he did request it.

“Stevie (their son) was nearly 9 months old before Woody saw him for the first time.”

Much has been made about Hayes’ admiration of Gen. Patton, yet he saw action in the Pacific as part of Gen. Douglas MacArthur’s forces. Woody eventually rose to the rank of Lieutenant Commander.

His service record included commanding the USS Ukiah (PPC-1251), a control submarine chaser, in the Palau Islands invasion and the destroyer-escort USS Rinehart (DE-196) in both the Atlantic and Pacific operations.

Continues…

https://www.richlandsource.com/2023/05/29/woody-hayes-trained-for-football-leadership-via-strong-ohio-roots-a-navy-command-in-world-war-ii/

ProfessorGAC

(77,783 posts)
7. Disagree
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:43 PM
Monday

And I don't see how you can use a guy who punched an opposing player as an archetype of integrity.
Only if one believes that the Balogun offense was red card worthy in the first place, can one come close to your conclusion.
I don't think it was, hence I think it would be ridiculous to voluntarily sit him.

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