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President Donald Trump appears to be massaging the numbers over the size of the crowd at his July 4 celebration on the National Mall.
Over the weekend, Trump offered a shifting account of attendance at his Salute to America 250 event, meant to commemorate the nations semi quincentennial, which was disrupted by severe weather.
Theres no way we can be deterred, the 80-year-old Republican said during his speech on Saturday evening, after a stormy forecast prompted officials to evacuate the Mall for over two hours. They estimated they had 375,000 people before everybody had to leave and they now have 150,000 people. Its the craziest thing anyones ever seen.
By Sunday afternoon, the figure had grown.
The Crowd at 7:05 in the evening was 422,000 people! All were forced to leave because of the weather, the event was cancelled, and everyone was gone because of lightning, Trump wrote on Truth Social.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-now-claims-422-000-people-turned-out-for-his-july-4-speech/ar-AA27jIjF
His insecurity keeps getting high lighted.
Peppertoo
(453 posts)efhmc
(17,362 posts)efhmc
(17,362 posts)bucolic_frolic
(56,493 posts)But the thousands were missing. Must be a delusion.
RockRaven
(20,177 posts)Even if it wasn't the biggest liar on earth saying it.
dem4decades
(14,753 posts)Vandals slit the reflecting pool, has he ever told the truth about anything?
dalton99a
(96,543 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(18,655 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 6, 2026, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)
I've looked hard for photos that might show a large crowd size and found nothing but close-ups and photos from other cities or years nothing to verify anything like Trump's ever-increasing claims.
I can imagine that authorities did what they could to control the air space above the events, e.g. to exclude random drones; but given Trump's desire to tout his crowd size, and with all the planned military air vehicle demonstrations, it's hard to believe that Trump would not somehow have arranged photography of a large crowd size if it had in fact materialized.
Blue Owl
(60,239 posts)I think Donny might have OD'd on them....
Vinca
(54,632 posts)Brother Buzz
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This is what the marmalade shartcannons crowd would look like if inserted into the same venue

ultralite001
(2,874 posts)TIA...