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dsc

(53,467 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 07:12 PM 7 hrs ago

Graham Platner had more red flags than a prison soccer match

but Mills was old. It is almost as if rampant ageism is a bad idea. All I can say is thank God for Jenny Racicot. Now finally, after literally getting hit by the broadside of a barn, people had decided that maybe, just maybe, a man with a NAZI tattoo, who repeatedly denigrated rape victims, African Americans, the police, gay people and God alone knows who else, and who was accused by multiple women of being abusive to them, might be unsuitable for the Senate.

Mills' midwife could have been Eve and I would have voted for her over him.

I sincerely hope we have learned our lesson.

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Graham Platner had more red flags than a prison soccer match (Original Post) dsc 7 hrs ago OP
Some have not. drray23 7 hrs ago #1
Some don't tar and feather people until everything comes out. paleotn 6 hrs ago #9
Here EdmondDantes_ 6 hrs ago #13
And you trust Republican op research that much? My mind isn't made up. That's my point. paleotn 5 hrs ago #21
Whatever happened to "Believe all women" ? MichMan 6 hrs ago #17
See Eric Swalwell. People only 'trust' women who fill their narrative. Maru Kitteh 5 hrs ago #20
Lying can be universal given the right incentives. paleotn 5 hrs ago #23
So ya know, thx for stopping by and offering a radiant display Maru Kitteh 5 hrs ago #24
Not in the slightest. Read the words and comprehend what I'm saying. paleotn 4 hrs ago #30
Honestly, during election season, I don't necessarily believe anyone. paleotn 5 hrs ago #22
He needs to step down, whether innocent or guilty. Doodley 7 hrs ago #2
Correct swong19104 6 hrs ago #5
Is this supposed to be satire? Bluetus 6 hrs ago #11
He's a politician. We must win that seat. yardwork 5 hrs ago #29
He already won the primary. It isn't as simple as you make it sound. Bluetus 4 hrs ago #31
What is more important? Him or America? We have to win these midterms and hold Trump to account or we all all fucked! Doodley 4 hrs ago #33
The truth is the most important thing. Bluetus 3 hrs ago #35
Do you want use to win the midterm election? How are we going to get our message across if one candidate is constantly Doodley 4 hrs ago #32
Yep, it was clear that more accusations LisaL 7 hrs ago #3
Well said Grim Chieftain 6 hrs ago #4
Now that we have destroyed Platner, could we refocus our attention on the current Nazi, child rapist, racist, grifter .. 1WorldHope 6 hrs ago #14
I am right there Grim Chieftain 6 hrs ago #19
Maine voters decide duckworth969 6 hrs ago #6
But donations come from many areas of the country Keepthesoulalive 6 hrs ago #8
I also can't envision any prominent democrats willing to campaign for him. LisaL 6 hrs ago #12
I get that duckworth969 6 hrs ago #15
True. The people have to decide. calimary 6 hrs ago #16
Tough choices for Maine Nasruddin 6 hrs ago #7
Well they control the house, the senate, the White House and the judiciary. BannonsLiver 5 hrs ago #26
Ones a rapist the other is old Boo1 3 hrs ago #39
Wow. Joinfortmill 6 hrs ago #10
Mills was unpopular with Dem voters for reasons far beyond just her age. Mills the centrist is pro filibuster, she is Celerity 6 hrs ago #18
Lots of folks here still accusing the woman mcar 5 hrs ago #25
Republicans would've dropped this one in October Sympthsical 3 hrs ago #38
Is soccer a thing in American prisons? I had no idea. BannonsLiver 5 hrs ago #27
Are red flags a thing in soccer? Prairie Gates 3 hrs ago #37
I mean, shouldn't be SS tattoo have been the first clue? nycbos 5 hrs ago #28
This is not important, but what is that metaphor? Music Man 4 hrs ago #34
Some folks would be surprised to see just how civilized people can be JoseBalow 2 hrs ago #40
You're setting up a false choice Sympthsical 3 hrs ago #36

drray23

(8,872 posts)
1. Some have not.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 07:16 PM
7 hrs ago

You still have people here on DU supporting him , willing to say that lady is lying and is a plant. Its despicable. There are documented contemporary witnesses ( like her psychiatric and other people she told) from back in 2023 .

Unless she has a time machine, this was obviously not a plant.
Apparently, for some, having moral integrity is only when it's convenient . They are making the exact same arguments Trump supporters are regarding his victims.

paleotn

(23,213 posts)
9. Some don't tar and feather people until everything comes out.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:40 PM
6 hrs ago

Let the evidence speak for itself. Do you have links to contemporary witnesses? Where's the documentation?

paleotn

(23,213 posts)
21. And you trust Republican op research that much? My mind isn't made up. That's my point.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:31 PM
5 hrs ago

Lets see where this goes.

MichMan

(17,722 posts)
17. Whatever happened to "Believe all women" ?
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:04 PM
6 hrs ago

Was it just a soundbite to be used when it was convenient?

Maru Kitteh

(32,135 posts)
20. See Eric Swalwell. People only 'trust' women who fill their narrative.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:29 PM
5 hrs ago

Which is of course, disingenuous at best.

paleotn

(23,213 posts)
23. Lying can be universal given the right incentives.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:43 PM
5 hrs ago

With control of the US Senate in play, there's plenty of incentive.

paleotn

(23,213 posts)
30. Not in the slightest. Read the words and comprehend what I'm saying.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:11 PM
4 hrs ago

Think about it rationally, not emotionally.

paleotn

(23,213 posts)
22. Honestly, during election season, I don't necessarily believe anyone.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:42 PM
5 hrs ago

Too much at stake with control of the Senate in the balance. That puts a different spin on a case of he said / she said. So, I'm holding judgment until I see how Platner defends this. If he f's it up. If he admits to it. If it's what I feared from his campaign early on, i.e., amateurish stuff, then he's cooked. In that case, if we want to "burn" him, I'll throw wood on the fire too. Until then, we'll see.

swong19104

(686 posts)
5. Correct
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:26 PM
6 hrs ago

We’re not here to adjudicate a crime. We’re here to decide whether the character of this person is fitting for the role of a senator. His character is not fitting for the role of a senator.

Bluetus

(3,388 posts)
11. Is this supposed to be satire?
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:48 PM
6 hrs ago

He needs to step down, and it doesn't matter is he is innocent? What kind of twisted bullshit is that?

yardwork

(70,137 posts)
29. He's a politician. We must win that seat.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:05 PM
5 hrs ago

If he can't win he needs to step down. Simple.

Bluetus

(3,388 posts)
31. He already won the primary. It isn't as simple as you make it sound.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:19 PM
4 hrs ago

Be that as it may, you are saying that it does not matter what the truth is. If somebody simply makes an allegation, then he should be treated as guilty. I find that attitude just plain wrong, considering how many dark forces are operating to manipulate our elections. If he is guilty, then I certainly want him out, but nobody here seems even the slightest bit interested in finding out the truth, or even taking a few days to hear his side of the story.

Doodley

(12,171 posts)
33. What is more important? Him or America? We have to win these midterms and hold Trump to account or we all all fucked!
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:23 PM
4 hrs ago

Bluetus

(3,388 posts)
35. The truth is the most important thing.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:21 PM
3 hrs ago

What would you think if 6 months from now, we found out that some combination of the GOP and foreign agencies were behind a smear campaign that was based on nothing at all?

Doodley

(12,171 posts)
32. Do you want use to win the midterm election? How are we going to get our message across if one candidate is constantly
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:21 PM
4 hrs ago

dominating the headlines with these allegations? Republicans will milk this for all they can. And do you think even Democratic voters across the nation care more about him or about their own lives, their own financial situation and healthcare? How are we going to tackle the "they are as bad on both sides," argument? These allegations are damaging for all Democratic Party candidates.

He will be demonized by the right and portrayed as worse than Trump and representative of all Democrats. Yes, we could fight for his right not to pay a price for things that are unproven, but in doing so we will lose the midterms. We need to be attacking Republicans over healthcare, over the economy, over abuses of power, over Iran, etc., not spending our time defending one candidate from attacks.

LisaL

(48,145 posts)
3. Yep, it was clear that more accusations
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 07:22 PM
7 hrs ago

were coming.
We were just hoping to avoid this exact situation that pretty clearly was going to happen, by pointing that out.

Grim Chieftain

(2,386 posts)
4. Well said
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:24 PM
6 hrs ago

We need to hold our candidates to the same standards we hold Republicans. We are better than this.

1WorldHope

(2,251 posts)
14. Now that we have destroyed Platner, could we refocus our attention on the current Nazi, child rapist, racist, grifter ..
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:54 PM
6 hrs ago

... and thief? How about we all go out in the streets and raise a little hell like the Albanian people are doing about our "president"!

Grim Chieftain

(2,386 posts)
19. I am right there
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:06 PM
6 hrs ago

We need to ditch the "no kings" mantra and protest him for what he is, a criminal who is corrupt and who is destroying this country each and every day. The protests need to be nationwide, in each and every state.

I am a baby boomer who grew up with the mantra "The people, united, will never be defeated".i still cling to that.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,487 posts)
8. But donations come from many areas of the country
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:40 PM
6 hrs ago

People can decide to close their purses. The dem party will not donate to him, so really we are involved. We need a serious senator from Maine who will work for the American people, not one with zipper problems.

duckworth969

(1,470 posts)
15. I get that
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:59 PM
6 hrs ago

But Maine has the final say. Those of us on the outside can fret and be profoundly upset and angry.

I know I’m extremely disappointed and frustrated. But it’s out of my hands.

If he backs out, the $20 I sent him will be for nothing. But that’s the risk I took.

For selfish reasons, I hope Graham sticks. If he doesn’t, I fear that seat is lost to us.

calimary

(91,641 posts)
16. True. The people have to decide.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:01 PM
6 hrs ago

And we absolutely need a serious senator representing us. In Maine, AND as one of the 100 Senators representing us.

Nasruddin

(1,316 posts)
7. Tough choices for Maine
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 08:35 PM
6 hrs ago

I would not have voted for Mills either. I personally have been done with gerontocrats since the mid 2010's.
The party has to do a better job of organizing candidates, keeping problematic people and old warhorses from getting nominations.
Look what happened to the Republicans.

BannonsLiver

(21,117 posts)
26. Well they control the house, the senate, the White House and the judiciary.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:48 PM
5 hrs ago

I’m not sure there’s much of a case to be made that things went poorly for them the last time around.

Celerity

(55,507 posts)
18. Mills was unpopular with Dem voters for reasons far beyond just her age. Mills the centrist is pro filibuster, she is
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:06 PM
6 hrs ago

anti-decriminalisation for small personal use amounts of drugs, she is anti red-flag laws for guns, she has vetoed collective bargaining rights (so is anti-union to a noticiable degree), vetoed a moratorium on data centers, vetoed wealth taxes, vetoed protections for renters, and vetoed some tribal sovereignty laws, etc. Those are unpopular stances and actions inside our Party.

mcar

(46,689 posts)
25. Lots of folks here still accusing the woman
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 09:47 PM
5 hrs ago

Saying she's being paid by Republicans. Staying she needs to provide more proof. Etc, etc.

The poor, poor white man must be believed at all costs, it appears.

Sympthsical

(11,335 posts)
38. Republicans would've dropped this one in October
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:35 PM
3 hrs ago

Not before the deadline to replace him. If there were maneuvers, it came from inside the house. Not that I think there were. I think the woman involved probably agonized over the decision, but she pulled the lever before a course correction became impossible.

Honestly, I think it took a lot of courage, because I don't think she wanted this kind of attention. What woman in her situation does?

Music Man

(1,692 posts)
34. This is not important, but what is that metaphor?
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:24 PM
4 hrs ago

Do you mean red cards? Are prison soccer matches more questionable than other prison activities?

Sorry, I just had to ask

JoseBalow

(9,964 posts)
40. Some folks would be surprised to see just how civilized people can be
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 12:43 AM
2 hrs ago

when disrespect brings real and immediate consequences.

Sympthsical

(11,335 posts)
36. You're setting up a false choice
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:33 PM
3 hrs ago

The party leadership looked at an octogenarian first term and thought, "Voters will love this!"

Voters did not love this. Democratic voters increasingly do not love this. President Biden faced 2/3 of Democratic voters telling him for over a year running for one more term was a bad idea.

It's almost as if running people who should be retired in front of an increasingly Millennial and Gen Z electorate is not a winning decision.

You can bemoan it all you want, but we should be in the business of making choices to win elections. If the party leadership did not want Platner or another progressive, they needed to recruit better choices.

They did not. That's on them.

And the voters let them know it.

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