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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGraham Platner had more red flags than a prison soccer match
but Mills was old. It is almost as if rampant ageism is a bad idea. All I can say is thank God for Jenny Racicot. Now finally, after literally getting hit by the broadside of a barn, people had decided that maybe, just maybe, a man with a NAZI tattoo, who repeatedly denigrated rape victims, African Americans, the police, gay people and God alone knows who else, and who was accused by multiple women of being abusive to them, might be unsuitable for the Senate.
Mills' midwife could have been Eve and I would have voted for her over him.
I sincerely hope we have learned our lesson.
drray23
(8,872 posts)You still have people here on DU supporting him , willing to say that lady is lying and is a plant. Its despicable. There are documented contemporary witnesses ( like her psychiatric and other people she told) from back in 2023 .
Unless she has a time machine, this was obviously not a plant.
Apparently, for some, having moral integrity is only when it's convenient . They are making the exact same arguments Trump supporters are regarding his victims.
paleotn
(23,213 posts)Let the evidence speak for itself. Do you have links to contemporary witnesses? Where's the documentation?
EdmondDantes_
(2,325 posts)You can even see screenshots. She told her boyfriend in 2023 and another woman who was asking about Platner.
paleotn
(23,213 posts)Lets see where this goes.
MichMan
(17,722 posts)Was it just a soundbite to be used when it was convenient?
Maru Kitteh
(32,135 posts)Which is of course, disingenuous at best.
paleotn
(23,213 posts)With control of the US Senate in play, there's plenty of incentive.
Maru Kitteh
(32,135 posts)of my point.
paleotn
(23,213 posts)Think about it rationally, not emotionally.
paleotn
(23,213 posts)Too much at stake with control of the Senate in the balance. That puts a different spin on a case of he said / she said. So, I'm holding judgment until I see how Platner defends this. If he f's it up. If he admits to it. If it's what I feared from his campaign early on, i.e., amateurish stuff, then he's cooked. In that case, if we want to "burn" him, I'll throw wood on the fire too. Until then, we'll see.
Doodley
(12,171 posts)Were not here to adjudicate a crime. Were here to decide whether the character of this person is fitting for the role of a senator. His character is not fitting for the role of a senator.
Bluetus
(3,388 posts)He needs to step down, and it doesn't matter is he is innocent? What kind of twisted bullshit is that?
yardwork
(70,137 posts)If he can't win he needs to step down. Simple.
Bluetus
(3,388 posts)Be that as it may, you are saying that it does not matter what the truth is. If somebody simply makes an allegation, then he should be treated as guilty. I find that attitude just plain wrong, considering how many dark forces are operating to manipulate our elections. If he is guilty, then I certainly want him out, but nobody here seems even the slightest bit interested in finding out the truth, or even taking a few days to hear his side of the story.
Doodley
(12,171 posts)Bluetus
(3,388 posts)What would you think if 6 months from now, we found out that some combination of the GOP and foreign agencies were behind a smear campaign that was based on nothing at all?
Doodley
(12,171 posts)dominating the headlines with these allegations? Republicans will milk this for all they can. And do you think even Democratic voters across the nation care more about him or about their own lives, their own financial situation and healthcare? How are we going to tackle the "they are as bad on both sides," argument? These allegations are damaging for all Democratic Party candidates.
He will be demonized by the right and portrayed as worse than Trump and representative of all Democrats. Yes, we could fight for his right not to pay a price for things that are unproven, but in doing so we will lose the midterms. We need to be attacking Republicans over healthcare, over the economy, over abuses of power, over Iran, etc., not spending our time defending one candidate from attacks.
LisaL
(48,145 posts)were coming.
We were just hoping to avoid this exact situation that pretty clearly was going to happen, by pointing that out.
Grim Chieftain
(2,386 posts)We need to hold our candidates to the same standards we hold Republicans. We are better than this.
1WorldHope
(2,251 posts)... and thief? How about we all go out in the streets and raise a little hell like the Albanian people are doing about our "president"!
Grim Chieftain
(2,386 posts)We need to ditch the "no kings" mantra and protest him for what he is, a criminal who is corrupt and who is destroying this country each and every day. The protests need to be nationwide, in each and every state.
I am a baby boomer who grew up with the mantra "The people, united, will never be defeated".i still cling to that.
duckworth969
(1,470 posts)No one else. Its not up to DU pundits.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,487 posts)People can decide to close their purses. The dem party will not donate to him, so really we are involved. We need a serious senator from Maine who will work for the American people, not one with zipper problems.
LisaL
(48,145 posts)NT
duckworth969
(1,470 posts)But Maine has the final say. Those of us on the outside can fret and be profoundly upset and angry.
I know Im extremely disappointed and frustrated. But its out of my hands.
If he backs out, the $20 I sent him will be for nothing. But thats the risk I took.
For selfish reasons, I hope Graham sticks. If he doesnt, I fear that seat is lost to us.
calimary
(91,641 posts)And we absolutely need a serious senator representing us. In Maine, AND as one of the 100 Senators representing us.
Nasruddin
(1,316 posts)I would not have voted for Mills either. I personally have been done with gerontocrats since the mid 2010's.
The party has to do a better job of organizing candidates, keeping problematic people and old warhorses from getting nominations.
Look what happened to the Republicans.
BannonsLiver
(21,117 posts)Im not sure theres much of a case to be made that things went poorly for them the last time around.
Boo1
(706 posts)THeSe ArE the SaMe.
Joinfortmill
(22,005 posts)Celerity
(55,507 posts)anti-decriminalisation for small personal use amounts of drugs, she is anti red-flag laws for guns, she has vetoed collective bargaining rights (so is anti-union to a noticiable degree), vetoed a moratorium on data centers, vetoed wealth taxes, vetoed protections for renters, and vetoed some tribal sovereignty laws, etc. Those are unpopular stances and actions inside our Party.
mcar
(46,689 posts)Saying she's being paid by Republicans. Staying she needs to provide more proof. Etc, etc.
The poor, poor white man must be believed at all costs, it appears.
Sympthsical
(11,335 posts)Not before the deadline to replace him. If there were maneuvers, it came from inside the house. Not that I think there were. I think the woman involved probably agonized over the decision, but she pulled the lever before a course correction became impossible.
Honestly, I think it took a lot of courage, because I don't think she wanted this kind of attention. What woman in her situation does?
BannonsLiver
(21,117 posts)Prairie Gates
(8,742 posts)I think the OP is thinking of red cards?
nycbos
(6,751 posts)Music Man
(1,692 posts)Do you mean red cards? Are prison soccer matches more questionable than other prison activities?
Sorry, I just had to ask
JoseBalow
(9,964 posts)when disrespect brings real and immediate consequences.
Sympthsical
(11,335 posts)The party leadership looked at an octogenarian first term and thought, "Voters will love this!"
Voters did not love this. Democratic voters increasingly do not love this. President Biden faced 2/3 of Democratic voters telling him for over a year running for one more term was a bad idea.
It's almost as if running people who should be retired in front of an increasingly Millennial and Gen Z electorate is not a winning decision.
You can bemoan it all you want, but we should be in the business of making choices to win elections. If the party leadership did not want Platner or another progressive, they needed to recruit better choices.
They did not. That's on them.
And the voters let them know it.