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Blumancru

(442 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 07:38 AM Wednesday

So if McTurtle is having 20 minute conversations with people

Then why can’t he do a one minute live video to show that he is still alive AND CONSCIOUS?
I ain’t buying it. He could be a brain kept alive in a jar and the Repukes would claim he is out playing tennis.
It would, however, be ironic and fitting if he did a reverse Fetterman and woke up from his coma completely opposite what he is.

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So if McTurtle is having 20 minute conversations with people (Original Post) Blumancru Wednesday OP
In a reply to 'niyad' earlier this day, I stated: ahnakneemoose Wednesday #1
So you believe Republicans are purposely lying to keep their Senate majority SMALLER???? Wiz Imp Wednesday #23
Yes, to prevent a special election, I suspect may not go their way. The tide is changing, maybe even in Kentucky Joinfortmill Wednesday #26
Heaven Forbid Mr.Bee Wednesday #34
A Democrat winning a special election would be minimally worse for Wiz Imp Wednesday #38
They are afraid that Thomas Massie would win the special election. N/T HappyH Wednesday #36
Total Nonsense. How does that hurt Republicans? Wiz Imp Wednesday #39
It's not so much how he will vote HappyH Wednesday #40
When he talks to a few top Democrats I'll start listening mdbl Wednesday #2
Lying is all they CAN do... GiqueCee Wednesday #14
A Hologram of Mendacity Kid Berwyn Wednesday #20
WHAT'S THAT SMELL?? some_of_us_are_sane Wednesday #37
Can Gov. Beshear request to check on him?? Ars Longa Wednesday #15
KY GOP got there first. Kid Berwyn Wednesday #19
and if a Repug governor is elected, a new billl will come out to give the power back mdbl Wednesday #33
I'm certain his staff will tell us "believe us... Torchlight Wednesday #3
A poster here yesterday was relentlessly insisting this durablend Wednesday #11
Partial transcript of a 20-minute conversation: lastlib Wednesday #4
Is his wife still in China? lonely bird Wednesday #5
Apparently she just got back, saying (paraphrase) that there was niyad Wednesday #28
That seems pretty unbelievable Mad_Machine76 Wednesday #29
She's back.... Ol Janx Spirit Wednesday #30
"The senator's health did not warrant an immediate return to the US." rhiannon55 Wednesday #35
Or, he was in fact conscious and talking and his doctors felt there really wasn't... Ol Janx Spirit Wednesday #42
They are lying dlk Wednesday #6
Someone should school Jennings agingdem Wednesday #16
Why would they lie about this? To what advantage? Wiz Imp Wednesday #22
If McConnell is dead, Kentucky Governor, Andy Beshear can call a special election dlk Wednesday #43
A special election almost certainly would benefit Republicans, NOT Democrats. Wiz Imp Wednesday #44
Another Democrat in the Senate is always a good option dlk Wednesday #45
Does not apply to Kentucky Wiz Imp Wednesday #46
If nothing changes, nothing changes dlk Thursday #47
Who said anything about giving up? Wiz Imp Thursday #49
I wrote about that very possibility during his 2023 coma... Kid Berwyn Wednesday #7
That picture looks like it is AI generated. Uncanny Valley and all that. Scary and nausea producing. erronis Wednesday #17
His wife would never let that happen dlk Thursday #48
Proof of life! Proof of life! Proof of life! FalloutShelter Wednesday #8
I used to talk to my old car. I'd say "come on, start darn you." It never spoke back. AnotherMother4Peace Wednesday #9
Here's a picture of the phone they used. Johnny2X2X Wednesday #10
He's ok really, picture was taken yesterday KS Toronado Wednesday #12
He hasn't popped his head out of the shell in a week. Republicans have been searching the swamps twodogsbarking Wednesday #13
I've done cpr on dozens of 80 year old folks and NONE go back to normal life. BradBo Wednesday #18
Why should Democrats care what's going on with McConnell? Wiz Imp Wednesday #21
Politically, yes Mad_Machine76 Wednesday #31
Did these people also see Jesus Christ walking on the water? And how is Vogon_Glory Wednesday #24
Look... this is what is going on Abstractartist Wednesday #25
Total Nonsense Wiz Imp Wednesday #41
Soon, they will be sharing the AI Mitch, so realistic that no one will know the difference. littlemissmartypants Wednesday #27
There are no actual communications, both ways happening. FarPoint Wednesday #32

ahnakneemoose

(136 posts)
1. In a reply to 'niyad' earlier this day, I stated:
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 07:50 AM
Wednesday
Additionally, my internal silly-sense tells me that U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell crossed the bridge (to that fiery place) just prior to his hospitalization on 14 June 2026.

And he has been gone ever since...

Wiz Imp

(11,069 posts)
23. So you believe Republicans are purposely lying to keep their Senate majority SMALLER????
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:21 AM
Wednesday

(with McConnell incapacitated it is just a 52-47 advantage instead of 53-47). Do you realize how insane that is? Democrats now need only 3 votes from Republicans to kill Blanche's nomination instead of 4. McConnell dying would trigger a special election to replace him and almost certainly give Republicans their 53rd vote back.

Not everything is a Republican conspiracy.

Joinfortmill

(22,074 posts)
26. Yes, to prevent a special election, I suspect may not go their way. The tide is changing, maybe even in Kentucky
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:34 AM
Wednesday

Wiz Imp

(11,069 posts)
38. A Democrat winning a special election would be minimally worse for
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:29 AM
Wednesday

Republicans than a vacant seat or an incapacitated McConnell. Haaving a Democrat in that seat only really helps Democrats during votes where one or more Republicans are absent. Whether it's 52-47 or 52-48, Democrats still need 3 Republican votes in the senate to kill Republican legislation or nominees. Also, it would only be for a couple months at most anyway. The full-term election is already set for November.

Wiz Imp

(11,069 posts)
39. Total Nonsense. How does that hurt Republicans?
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:35 AM
Wednesday

Massie voted with Trump 98% of the time. Even if Massie became 100% anti-Trump, it would at most be minimally worse for Republicans than a vacant seat or an incapacitated McConnell. Having a Democrat in that seat only really helps Democrats during votes where one or more Republicans are absent. Whether it's 52-47 or 52-48, Democrats still need 3 Republican votes in the senate to kill Republican legislation or nominees. Also, it would only be for a couple months at most anyway. The full-term election is already set for November.

Besides, Massie couldn't even win his own district. Why would Republicans be afraid of him winning a statewide election? It's an insane conspiracy theory that makes zero sense.





HappyH

(317 posts)
40. It's not so much how he will vote
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:45 AM
Wednesday

He pissed Trump off by speaking out. Trump endorsed his primary opponent. They are afraid of Massie winning a special election because that would anger our mad king. If they hold out till the regular election they likely get a total Trump toadie for a Senator.
No disrespect intended, but I think you are trying to apply logic and reason to a group that defies logic or reason.

mdbl

(9,121 posts)
2. When he talks to a few top Democrats I'll start listening
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 07:53 AM
Wednesday

Until then, I assume they are all lying since that is what they do so well.

GiqueCee

(5,265 posts)
14. Lying is all they CAN do...
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:31 AM
Wednesday

... because only lies can support and defend their diseased belief system. They'd lie to their dying mothers for idle amusement.

Kid Berwyn

(25,715 posts)
20. A Hologram of Mendacity
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:01 AM
Wednesday

A universe in which the chief currency is greed and the ultimate value is self service.

Gee, sounds like the Capitalism.

Kid Berwyn

(25,715 posts)
19. KY GOP got there first.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:59 AM
Wednesday
Per the Google:

Passed in April 2024, House Bill 622 strips the governor of any appointment power. Instead, if a vacancy occurs, the governor must call a special election. The winner of that election will finish the rest of the term.

mdbl

(9,121 posts)
33. and if a Repug governor is elected, a new billl will come out to give the power back
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 10:38 AM
Wednesday

These repugs are repulsive.

Torchlight

(7,428 posts)
3. I'm certain his staff will tell us "believe us...
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 07:59 AM
Wednesday

what do have to gain by lying? We would never lie about this. Cross my heart (but not a silver one...)"

lastlib

(28,963 posts)
4. Partial transcript of a 20-minute conversation:
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:01 AM
Wednesday

"Mitch? Mitch? Are you awake, Mitch? I sure wish you could say something, Mitch. Mitch, blink twice if you can hear me.....We sure miss you in the Senate, Mitch. If you don't recuperate fast and get back to us, we're going to lose a lot of votes, Mitch. Mitch, please wake up and talk to us, buddy---we need to be able to convince folks you're not dead yet Mitch, we got Elaine out of the country, so she can't pull the plug on you--so we're---er, YOU"RE safe for now. That should relieve some of your stress, right? Mitch, can you move your fingers? Mitch, if you can just tell us where the money is, I PROMISE you we'll keep it safe for you (lo-o-onnng pause........) So long, Mitch; keep fighting....."

niyad

(135,915 posts)
28. Apparently she just got back, saying (paraphrase) that there was
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:39 AM
Wednesday

nothing in his condition to warrant cutting her long-planned trip short.

Mad_Machine76

(25,100 posts)
29. That seems pretty unbelievable
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:51 AM
Wednesday

Maybe they do things different in their family but if my wife had a severe cardiac event that sent her to the hospital's ICU after being found unconscious, I would be with her night and day without question. Also, why did his daughter vanish herself on social media? I'm not saying that I know for sure that any of this necessarily proves anything, but it seems like there would be a quick and easy way to prove one way or another that Mitch is alive, dead, in a coma, etc. At the minimum, we deserve to know the truth about how our representatives are doing, if they're dead or alive, demented, etc., especially the people of Kentucky, who he represents.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,164 posts)
30. She's back....
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:52 AM
Wednesday
https://www.wlky.com/article/elaine-chao-mitch-mcconnell-health-statement/71858467

Her story is odd, but it is hard to contest.

The entire story would be believable--some people actually do recover from having CPR administered and we do not know the extent of what was administered--if they would release a video or make a doctor available to talk about his condition.

Otherwise, we know things do not add up here.

rhiannon55

(2,800 posts)
35. "The senator's health did not warrant an immediate return to the US."
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:17 AM
Wednesday

Because he’s BRAIN DEAD, and she knows it. Why hurry back?

Even brain dead, that old fart is still fucking with us. 😵

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,164 posts)
42. Or, he was in fact conscious and talking and his doctors felt there really wasn't...
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:57 AM
Wednesday

...a reason to make a 20-hour flight back to be by his side.

But if that was the case why are they not providing proof other than certain figures on the right saying they have been talking to him? Why not put a doctor out in front of cameras to give an update?

The truth must be somewhere in-between--as it often is.

agingdem

(9,077 posts)
16. Someone should school Jennings
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:42 AM
Wednesday

beeps, blips, and forced air from a life support monitor is not a “conversation” …

Wiz Imp

(11,069 posts)
22. Why would they lie about this? To what advantage?
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:14 AM
Wednesday

It is to the Democrats' major advantage for McConnell to be incapacitated and not dead. With only 52 votes instead of 53, now only 3 Republicans need to vote with Democrats to kill any legislation or nominees. For example, Democrats now need only 3 Republicans to vote against Blanche as AG to kill his nomination. With McConnell present or another Republican elected in a special election taking his place, Democrats would need 4 Republican votes to kill Blanche's nomination.

This conspiracy theorizing is nonsense.. Democrats are much better off with McConnell alive and unable to vote.

dlk

(13,527 posts)
43. If McConnell is dead, Kentucky Governor, Andy Beshear can call a special election
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 05:33 PM
Wednesday

With a special election, there is a possibility a Democrat could be elected to the Senate.

Wiz Imp

(11,069 posts)
44. A special election almost certainly would benefit Republicans, NOT Democrats.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 06:50 PM
Wednesday

The current situation is VERY BAD for Republicans and a GREAT SITUATION for Democrats. Democrats are the ones who should not want a special election. An incapacitated McConnell means Republicans have only 52 votes in the Senate instead of 53. With only 52 votes, now only 3 Republicans need to vote with Democrats to kill any legislation or nominees. For example, Democrats now need only 3 Republicans to vote against Blanche as AG to kill his nomination. With McConnell present or another Republican elected in a special election taking his place, Democrats would need 4 Republican votes to kill Blanche's nomination.

Even if a Democrat won a special election it would at most be minimally worse for Republicans than a vacant seat or an incapacitated McConnell. Having a Democrat in that seat only really helps Democrats during votes where one or more Republicans are absent. Whether it's 52-47 or 52-48, Democrats still need 3 Republican votes in the senate to kill Republican legislation or nominees. A special election which would almost certainly be won by a Republican, would give Republicans back that 53rd vote for several months.

Worst case for Republicans with Special election, Democrats win but it has no real effect on Senate votes. However, if a Republican wins a special election , they get their 53rd vote back which is extremely significant.

A 53rd Republican in the Senate is an enormous advantage for Republicans (4 Republicans would need to join Democrats to kill legislation or nominees instead of the current 3 with McConnell not present), while a 48th Democrat effectively doesn't help Democrats at all (Democrats would still need 3 Republican votes to kill legislation or nominees - just like now).



dlk

(13,527 posts)
45. Another Democrat in the Senate is always a good option
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:09 PM
Wednesday

In my opinion, it’s a strategic move forward. Once in office, it’s then easier, as an incumbent, to be re-elected. In my opinion, Democrats should take every opportunity to put another Democrat in office, at any time, in any place, no exceptions.

Americans are fed up. A skilled candidate could easily build a successful campaign, even in Kentucky. A Democrat was able to get elected governor and Andy Beshear is not the Lone Ranger.

Wiz Imp

(11,069 posts)
46. Does not apply to Kentucky
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 10:47 PM
Wednesday

McConnell's term ends at the beginning of January. The candidates for the November election have already been determined - Andy Barr (R) vs Charles Booker (D) . As of now, Barr is considered to have a 99% likelihood of winning. Democrats are not winning that seat. Winning a special election would do absolutely nothing for Democrats.

https://www.racetothewh.com/senate/26#google_vignette

BTW, Kentucky last elected a Democratic Senator in 1992. On the other hand, Kentucky has had only 2 Republican Governors (both for a single term) in the past 55 years. A Democrat winning the Governership in Kentucky is routine, having happened in 12 of the last 14 elections. Republicans have won 10 straight Senate elections.

Kid Berwyn

(25,715 posts)
7. I wrote about that very possibility during his 2023 coma...
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:12 AM
Wednesday
What if Mitch McConnell came out of the hospital "Woke"?

Can you imagine? A woke Mitch, a good person who cares about other people and good causes — and uses their abilities to do something about it?



Say Mitch came out of an induced coma…If he was woke, he would actually lead, from universal health care and free tuition for all to stopping the Fourth Reich and opposing Putin and taxing the world’s billionaires, there’d be a whole new nation and better planet.

The GOP wouldn’t know what to do. They certainly wouldn’t run against it.

OP: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217719259

twodogsbarking

(20,085 posts)
13. He hasn't popped his head out of the shell in a week. Republicans have been searching the swamps
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:30 AM
Wednesday

for a replacement that looks just like him.

BradBo

(1,100 posts)
18. I've done cpr on dozens of 80 year old folks and NONE go back to normal life.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:48 AM
Wednesday

If they even get a heart rhythm back.

Wiz Imp

(11,069 posts)
21. Why should Democrats care what's going on with McConnell?
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:10 AM
Wednesday

It is to the Democrats' major advantge for McConnell to be incapacitated and not dead. With only 52 votes, now only 3 Republicans need to vote with Democrats to kill any legislation or nominees. For example, Democrats now need only 3 Republicans to vote against Blanche as AG to kill his nomination. With McConnell present or another Republican elected in a special election taking his place, Democrats would need 4 Republican votes to kill Blanche's nomination.

This conspiracy theorizing is nonsense.. Democrats are much better off with McConnell alive and unable to vote.

Mad_Machine76

(25,100 posts)
31. Politically, yes
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:53 AM
Wednesday

but it's the principle of people being able to know about how their representatives are functioning, if they're dead or alive, etc.

Vogon_Glory

(10,457 posts)
24. Did these people also see Jesus Christ walking on the water? And how is
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:23 AM
Wednesday

Elvis Presley doing these days?


Enquiring minds want to know.



Abstractartist

(458 posts)
25. Look... this is what is going on
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:27 AM
Wednesday

McConnell is on life support. While he is still alive by mechanical means, his wife went to China, most likely to be out of the country so she cannot be reached to authorize turning off the ventilator.

The dirty shit dog republicans are not going to allow the Ky Governor any time to order a special election. By not allowing any Democrat to visit him, “ he can continue” to serve.

I think this will totally backfire on the shit dog republicans, because there will be an election, and a well placed democrat may just win the Ky seat.

Just my opinion….many are talking to McConnell, but his is not answering or even comprehending.

Wiz Imp

(11,069 posts)
41. Total Nonsense
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 11:49 AM
Wednesday

The current situation is VERY BAD for Republicans and aa GREAT SITUATION for Democrats. Democrats are the ones who do not waant a special election. An incapacitated McConnell means Republicans have only 52 votes in the Senaate instead of 53. With only 52 votes, now only 3 Republicans need to vote with Democrats to kill any legislation or nominees. For example, Democrats now need only 3 Republicans to vote against Blanche as AG to kill his nomination. With McConnell present or another Republican elected in a special election taking his place, Democrats would need 4 Republican votes to kill Blanche's nomination.

A Democrat winning a special election would t most be minimally worse for Republicans than a vacant seat or an incapacitated McConnell. Having a Democrat in that seat only really helps Democrats during votes where one or more Republicans are absent. Whether it's 52-47 or 52-48, Democrats still need 3 Republican votes in the senate to kill Republican legislation or nominees. Also, it would only be for a couple months at most anyway. The full-term election is already set for November.

Why are so many people here convinced there is a conspiracy to hide McConnells death, when if it were true, it's a huge favor to Democrats and doesn't help Republicans one bit.

littlemissmartypants

(36,049 posts)
27. Soon, they will be sharing the AI Mitch, so realistic that no one will know the difference.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 09:35 AM
Wednesday

Think of the possibilities. Supreme Court Justices could reign forever.

FarPoint

(15,048 posts)
32. There are no actual communications, both ways happening.
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 10:07 AM
Wednesday

These lies the media right wing is sharing, in my opinion , they are coordinate distractions....We the people and mostly MAGAS / trumpers have created a venue of comfort to lie 100% in a coordinated effort....

Our discussing the lies essentially just carries their water....Just realize, they can't prevent organ failure and body compensation....the truth will be outed soon.

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