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Callie1979

(1,553 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:48 PM Sunday

"THE RETURN OF THE DEMOCRATIC MANLY MAN"

I've been preaching this for some time. I actually wish we could have a '28 candidate who looked like Jason Statham. Yes, I think its absolutely ridiculous that I feel that way, but WINNING is all that matters at this point. We simply MUST get more men back to the Party. And candidates like these are a move in that direction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/07/ohio-poindexter-democrats-men/687880/
"Brian poindexter had just finished wolfing down a Reuben sandwich in a deli outside Cleveland when he delivered a message that, coming from a Democratic House candidate in the year 2026, sounded almost provocative. “There’s nothing wrong with being masculine,” Poindexter told me. It’s okay, he said, to be “a manly man.”

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"THE RETURN OF THE DEMOCRATIC MANLY MAN" (Original Post) Callie1979 Sunday OP
I think I know the guy we need. Xavier Breath Sunday #1
Warning! True Dough Sunday #3
True story: I've never smoked a single cigarette in my life. Xavier Breath Sunday #6
Same is true of me! True Dough Sunday #8
My dad smoked & thats all it took to keep me away. He quit when I was 12 Callie1979 Sunday #11
Same here Bettie Sunday #15
Smart MustLoveBeagles 20 hrs ago #29
Make lung cancer great again! Initech 17 hrs ago #40
Best of both worlds right here: True Dough Sunday #2
What a beautiful family he has MustLoveBeagles 20 hrs ago #30
So women need not apply Bluestocking Sunday #4
And that was hidden for quite some time. Read the article; they mention women too Callie1979 Sunday #7
Do you think it's the party that doesn't want to elect a woman or the country as a whole? BannonsLiver Sunday #18
The party is willing to elect a woman Bluestocking 23 hrs ago #21
100 percent BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #24
What's so bad? MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #46
I'm not concerned about testosterone levels, as a voter, I'm looking for integrity. JustKay Sunday #5
Throw in hot men for good measure LeftInTX Sunday #9
Again, shouldn't matter but it does. Thats where we are. Callie1979 Sunday #10
Greg Brady TheProle Sunday #20
How did Graham Platner work out for us? LtTx 20 hrs ago #27
I confess, I didn't have time to read the article. So I was pretty much joking, sorta. LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #44
I'm sorry.... MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #50
what about lumberjacks? DoBW Sunday #12
That was Graham Platner and look how that worked out. pcdb Sunday #13
Thats an example of shitty background checks. Plus, much WAS known Callie1979 Sunday #14
It started with swooning and ended in a scorned fury Ponietz Sunday #17
I would swoon if I saw Obama in real life. LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #45
The operative word is "Manly," not "Nazi." ColoringFool 13 hrs ago #54
"So women need not apply. Come on, this is offensive in so many ways." J_William_Ryan Sunday #16
The article also covers women running too. Callie1979 22 hrs ago #22
But men are the 'default'. CousinIT 20 hrs ago #26
Welcome to society. ColoringFool 13 hrs ago #55
Like you, I'm of the Al Davis school when it comes to elections. BannonsLiver Sunday #19
Unfortunately there's still a large desire here for "box checking" Callie1979 22 hrs ago #23
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver 20 hrs ago #25
Fetterman..... LtTx 20 hrs ago #28
Yeah MustLoveBeagles 19 hrs ago #32
So because of Fetterman it's not important to prioritize winning elections? BannonsLiver 19 hrs ago #34
Dear Goddess, I think I am going to be ill. First off, who is this jason person that niyad 20 hrs ago #31
I'm with you MustLoveBeagles 19 hrs ago #33
It is disturbing, to say the least. niyad 12 hrs ago #57
Why are republicans so concerned about being..... Lovie777 19 hrs ago #35
Apparently, the person referred to in the Atlantic article is a Dem. niyad 19 hrs ago #37
The problem is in some cases Democrats allow Republicans to set the stage................. Lovie777 14 hrs ago #52
We don't need an "alpha male" per se biocube 19 hrs ago #36
Brian Poindexter is our Democratic nominee for Ohio-7th Quiet Em 18 hrs ago #38
I tend to think that noise and stagecraft often get in the way Torchlight 18 hrs ago #39
Old SNL Hans and Franz body builder skit where they say "girlie man" in Schwarzenegger accents betsuni 16 hrs ago #41
Thanks! MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #51
Manly men like who? Ted Cruz, Sean Duffy, Josh Hawley, Russell Vought??? AStern 16 hrs ago #42
Gross! 🤢 johnp3907 16 hrs ago #43
Only if he loses. BannonsLiver 15 hrs ago #47
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver 15 hrs ago #48
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver 15 hrs ago #49
So a short (5'9"), balding British guy flvegan 14 hrs ago #53
we need more authenticity from our candidates, and less posturing Stargleamer 13 hrs ago #56

Xavier Breath

(6,747 posts)
6. True story: I've never smoked a single cigarette in my life.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:57 PM
Sunday

Not even as a 10-year-old sneaking one behind Grandad's shed. Never appealed to me. I had so many relatives that smoked that I'm guessing that's what turned me off of it.

True Dough

(27,841 posts)
8. Same is true of me!
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:00 PM
Sunday

Not once. Never appealed to me in any way. I'm grateful that I was able to avoid it.

Callie1979

(1,553 posts)
11. My dad smoked & thats all it took to keep me away. He quit when I was 12
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:06 PM
Sunday

After that, you did NOT want to light up around him

Bluestocking

(944 posts)
4. So women need not apply
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:55 PM
Sunday

Come on, this is offensive in so many ways. This is not Democratic Party I want to be a part of. It is about qualifications. FDR was in a wheelchair so I am guessing not very manly man.

Callie1979

(1,553 posts)
7. And that was hidden for quite some time. Read the article; they mention women too
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:58 PM
Sunday

Women who fit the equal mold as the men.

BannonsLiver

(21,239 posts)
18. Do you think it's the party that doesn't want to elect a woman or the country as a whole?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:09 PM
Sunday

Because it kinda seems like the country as a whole to me, and not the party given that 2 of the last 3 nominees have been women.

BannonsLiver

(21,239 posts)
24. 100 percent
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:03 AM
20 hrs ago

Which is why it’s odd you seem to be laying the “women need not apply” label on the party.

MorbidButterflyTat

(5,111 posts)
46. What's so bad?
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 01:38 PM
15 hrs ago

“There’s nothing wrong with being masculine,” Poindexter told me. It’s okay, he said, to be “a manly man.”


JustKay

(234 posts)
5. I'm not concerned about testosterone levels, as a voter, I'm looking for integrity.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 05:56 PM
Sunday

I know, fairy tale thinking! I'm an optimist!

Callie1979

(1,553 posts)
10. Again, shouldn't matter but it does. Thats where we are.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:04 PM
Sunday

And to me, defeating the MAGA is ALL that matters. However we can do it & whoever needs to temporarily take a seat Take the "tough guy/gal" image away from them.

TheProle

(4,254 posts)
20. Greg Brady
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:15 PM
Sunday

“Adios Johnny Bravo” When a talent agent signs Greg to become a rock star named "Johnny Bravo," he lets his new fame get to his head, until he discovers that he was only signed because he "fit the suit."

LtTx

(111 posts)
27. How did Graham Platner work out for us?
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:23 AM
20 hrs ago

How about we look towards integrity and truthfulness? Manly, macho.....no thanks

LeftInTX

(35,276 posts)
44. I confess, I didn't have time to read the article. So I was pretty much joking, sorta.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 01:14 PM
16 hrs ago

The headline had me chuckling. We see articles like this from time to time.
And I don't know if what they're saying is a coincidence or a trend.

So, if we're gonna have manly-men, make them hot too.
Will hot translate into electablility?

Too bad Bollywood actor John Abraham isn't available.

He lives in the wrong country.



Odds are, he will go into politics in India. Lots of celebs in India go into politics.

ETA: I read the article. The article references Johnny Garcia. I am familiar with the race. Johnny Garcia ran against John Lira and Maureen Galindo in the primary. Maureen was that flaky sex therapist, anti-sematism candidate, who received national attention.

I'm surprised John Lira didn't do that in the primary, but it is what it is. It is a fairly conservative district. I think Johnny Garcia has a better chance than John Lira. John Lira's a great guy, but not a very good campaigner. I don't think there was any effort to put a "manly man" in there. Johnny Garcia worked for the sheriff's dept. Our sheriff is popular here. A good chunk of this new district was formally Henry Cuellar's district. It's red leaning.




MorbidButterflyTat

(5,111 posts)
50. I'm sorry....
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 01:56 PM
15 hrs ago

"Take the 'tough guy/gal' image away from them."

Like bloated, shuffling Piggy, half dead (or fully) McConnell, mummified Grassley, etc. and their incel cult are tough guys?

Not my idea of tough guys.

But this is!

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Callie1979

(1,553 posts)
14. Thats an example of shitty background checks. Plus, much WAS known
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:17 PM
Sunday

People here posted about it & got hammered for being negative.

Ponietz

(4,754 posts)
17. It started with swooning and ended in a scorned fury
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:00 PM
Sunday

It is always about sex. We’ve seen ads our entire lives manipulating that primal human need. Like it or not.
It’s what Clinton and Obama had/have.

LeftInTX

(35,276 posts)
45. I would swoon if I saw Obama in real life.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 01:19 PM
16 hrs ago

Clinton was more like, "Down to earth guy at McDonald's with a twinkle in eye"

We're so superficial in this country. However, my post above states that lots of Bollywood actors transition into Indian politics. Heck, they continue to be in movies while they're serving in India's parliament. So maybe it isn't just the US.

J_William_Ryan

(3,720 posts)
16. "So women need not apply. Come on, this is offensive in so many ways."
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 06:57 PM
Sunday

The problem is far too many voters don’t find it offensive – it’s how women lost the right to reproductive autonomy, which is even more offensive.

CousinIT

(12,942 posts)
26. But men are the 'default'.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:09 AM
20 hrs ago

Women are the afterthought, i.e., "oh yeah, women too."

*sigh*

Callie1979

(1,553 posts)
23. Unfortunately there's still a large desire here for "box checking"
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 06:54 AM
22 hrs ago

I dont know why it's so hard to see the forest.
Just win baby

Response to Callie1979 (Reply #23)

BannonsLiver

(21,239 posts)
34. So because of Fetterman it's not important to prioritize winning elections?
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:33 AM
19 hrs ago

lol 🙄

Because of Fetterman and Platner “men need not apply”? Is that your point? 🤷‍♂️

niyad

(135,918 posts)
31. Dear Goddess, I think I am going to be ill. First off, who is this jason person that
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:27 AM
20 hrs ago

I should pay any attention to him? Second, the misogyny in the Atlantic article is disgusting. "manly man" (with no table manners, apparently) is now openly THE criterion in the Democratic party? A throwback to some semi-mythical, longed-for time of male supremacy? Seriously?

Right now, the song "Ladies" sung by woodrow wilson in "SUFFS: The Musical" is playing in my head. The misogyny of his thinking apparently has not gone away.

Lovie777

(24,748 posts)
35. Why are republicans so concerned about being.....
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:35 AM
19 hrs ago

masculine?

Because in my eyes a manly man does not have to be a bully to prove strength, actually it proves weakness and the Republican Party have a lot of them. Just look at shithole and Vance and the list is long.

Talarico explained it well beginning with caring.

Lovie777

(24,748 posts)
52. The problem is in some cases Democrats allow Republicans to set the stage.................
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 02:30 PM
14 hrs ago

manly men are sure not republicans at all.

Manly men are the likes of Obama, Biden, Carter, Clinton, and to date, Talarico, Brown, Cooper, Newsom, Waltz, and many more. Because they show compassion.

biocube

(304 posts)
36. We don't need an "alpha male" per se
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 10:05 AM
19 hrs ago

We do need someone who is more fiery.

Amd it's a myth that women and minorities aren't allowed to be mad. It depends on what you're mad about.

Researchers at NYU tried to show that a woman who behaves like Trump does would be hated, but it backfired. They actually loved her.

Quiet Em

(3,380 posts)
38. Brian Poindexter is our Democratic nominee for Ohio-7th
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 11:05 AM
18 hrs ago

It's very red but our own Sherrod Brown has been successful winning this district in the past and hopefully Ohio as a whole will be returning Brown back to the Senate.

This manly man stuff is the work of Morris Katz and Fight Agency. Yes, that Morris Katz. It seems silly because most voters are looking for plans and policy. MAGA are the ones obsessed with the manly man stuff. But if this ploy for wooing the MAGA who are looking for manly men works in this very red Republican Trumpy district I'll take it. Just don't push this manly man stuff all over the country and we're good.

Torchlight

(7,428 posts)
39. I tend to think that noise and stagecraft often get in the way
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 11:24 AM
18 hrs ago

of the kind of steady, professional leadership that actually delivers results. Central Casting candidates at the expense of education, experience, insight, and behavior seems simply another variation compelling us to reduce standards of candidates in a race to the bottom with the GOP.

betsuni

(29,542 posts)
41. Old SNL Hans and Franz body builder skit where they say "girlie man" in Schwarzenegger accents
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 12:36 PM
16 hrs ago

is stuck in my brains now.

Response to johnp3907 (Reply #43)

Response to johnp3907 (Reply #43)

flvegan

(66,771 posts)
53. So a short (5'9"), balding British guy
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 02:48 PM
14 hrs ago

is America's idea of a "manly man" dem candidate? Almost went full George Costanza here.

Anyway...

Stargleamer

(2,866 posts)
56. we need more authenticity from our candidates, and less posturing
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 03:52 PM
13 hrs ago

Coming across as a "manly man" is just irritating.

And it helps to spell out what being a "manly man" would entail. A candidate who isn't polite? A candidate who hunts animals for fun? One with a military background? One who is boisterous, loud?

From my experience, "manly men" don't often have stellar histories, as Platner has shown.

So far from what I have seen of him, James Talarico has come across as gentle and able to express himself well. And Jon Ossoff also is able to resonate with voters. Others here who know more about them may later disabuse me of my positive notions of these two candidates, but as of right now they seem to be the kind of candidates we can use.

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