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riversedge

(82,630 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:25 AM 15 hrs ago

To our American friends, this is a map of forests in North America. 347 million hectares of wilderness in highly remote

Interesting map




To our American friends, this is a map of forests in North America.

347 million hectares of wilderness in highly remote areas cannot be contained by “proper forest management”.

These are enormous, mostly uninhabited areas that are prone to lightning strikes causing wildfires.


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To our American friends, this is a map of forests in North America. 347 million hectares of wilderness in highly remote (Original Post) riversedge 15 hrs ago OP
Not news to anyone with a maturity of 10-year-old or more. Girard442 14 hrs ago #1
An idea that requires critical thinking skills Dr. T 14 hrs ago #2
What? You mean you didn't rake your forests? Biophilic 14 hrs ago #3
This idea that poor forest management caused this Johnny2X2X 13 hrs ago #4
Fire is absolutely critical in the health of the large Boreal forests in the Eastern and Western hemisphere's Cheezoholic 13 hrs ago #5
Please break this up into paragraphs. Thank you. ❤️ littlemissmartypants 13 hrs ago #14
The white area of Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba USED to be forest also FakeNoose 13 hrs ago #6
Excellent point. nt moniss 13 hrs ago #10
Let's also not forget that the US can't send the help it used to send. GoCubsGo 13 hrs ago #7
no explanation markie 13 hrs ago #8
Have they raked their leaves? Guess not. twodogsbarking 13 hrs ago #9
When the fires are in Canada they are poor forest managers Hope22 13 hrs ago #11
He's going to be in New Jersey for the World Cup final match on Sunday FakeNoose 12 hrs ago #16
I was gonna say that sounds promising but you are on the mark! Hope22 12 hrs ago #19
Lemme guess, Glaisne 13 hrs ago #12
Sigh lonely bird 13 hrs ago #13
Please catch me up. It is early yet, and I seem to have missed some niyad 12 hrs ago #17
Certainly lonely bird 3 hrs ago #22
We've done a piss poor job of forest management for many, many reasons for hundreds of years. littlemissmartypants 12 hrs ago #15
Granted but the boreal forest is a whole different matter paleotn 7 hrs ago #21
Dear Goddess, what stupidity have I missed this time? niyad 12 hrs ago #18
Most Americans don't get it paleotn 7 hrs ago #20

Dr. T

(901 posts)
2. An idea that requires critical thinking skills
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:09 AM
14 hrs ago

is lost on those without such skills. I'm looking at you, average Joe MAGAt.

Biophilic

(6,882 posts)
3. What? You mean you didn't rake your forests?
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:38 AM
14 hrs ago

I didn’t realize some of us were so stupid as to blame Canadians as directly responsible for the fires and smoke.
Yeah, on second thought, silly me.
Good grief.
Sorry Canada, we haven’t been the best of neighbors lately.

Johnny2X2X

(24,658 posts)
4. This idea that poor forest management caused this
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:48 AM
13 hrs ago

Has full penetration on the Right by yesterday afternoon.

Just idiotic. They are clueless. You can’t cut these forests down and logging them won’t make a bit of difference.

Cheezoholic

(4,268 posts)
5. Fire is absolutely critical in the health of the large Boreal forests in the Eastern and Western hemisphere's
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:48 AM
13 hrs ago

More so than in even the large forests at lower latitudes. They are also the 2nd most important forests only to Tropical forests as CO2 scrubbers. What makes it "look" so bad is the forest floor in these areas is a combination of or individually permafrost, peat and/or moss covered which when this specialized forest floor burns gives off copious amounts of smoke. I might also note that, especially in Russia, we are killing these forests at rates they can't recover. The most dangerous aspect of this is exposing more permafrost to an accelerated heating of the climate AND to more intense fire. Permafrost is basically frozen peat and can burn for years. Permafrost could become the greatest releaser of greenhouse gasses, particularly the very dangerous greenhouse gas methane, in the world in the next decade. These forests, while accounting for 1/3 of forests world wide, sequester twice as much in greenhouse gases than all other forests combined. When the frozen peats and permafrost up there finally goes it will release more methane than humans have dumped into the atmosphere in their history. Methane is the greenhouse killer. And when concentrated methane materials burn they release the worst greenhouse gas of them all, water. I have a friend (retired) who worked for the Canadian forestry service studying the Boreal Forests. He said the destruction of those forests by humans scares him more than cars and industrialization etc. by man combined when it comes to global climate change. While I believe we're beyond the tipping point already, runaway methane releases is a bridge too far and will change the planet not for a 100 years or even 500, it could be 10k to 100k years or more before we even get the balance back to today.

FakeNoose

(43,527 posts)
6. The white area of Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba USED to be forest also
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:56 AM
13 hrs ago

But in the last 100+ years settlers have cut down trees and turned it into farmland. Canada isn't so different from the American Midwest, it's just colder.

GoCubsGo

(35,118 posts)
7. Let's also not forget that the US can't send the help it used to send.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:57 AM
13 hrs ago

Thanks to Trump and his DOGEbags, and their gutting of agencies responsible for fighting wildfires, we can barely fight our own fires, let alone help Canada fight theirs. Fuck these fucking fuckers.

markie

(24,141 posts)
8. no explanation
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:58 AM
13 hrs ago

or apologies necessary for friends.... and it won't mean anything to the ignorant

now, let's talk about climate change and how, (especially the US refusal to acknowledge) is contributing

Hope22

(4,994 posts)
11. When the fires are in Canada they are poor forest managers
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:30 AM
13 hrs ago

When the fires are in the US….why did Canada send their lightening to start these fires? How about we send some fire support to save the NE from choking to death. Looking for the orange monster to slither on down to FL so he can breathe this weekend!

FakeNoose

(43,527 posts)
16. He's going to be in New Jersey for the World Cup final match on Sunday
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:53 AM
12 hrs ago

But I doubt he'll be sitting outside. They'll give him a specially built air-conditioned glass box where he can fall asleep and miss the game.

Hope22

(4,994 posts)
19. I was gonna say that sounds promising but you are on the mark!
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:27 AM
12 hrs ago

Even huffing from one hut to the next will take its toll!

Glaisne

(680 posts)
12. Lemme guess,
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:36 AM
13 hrs ago

the same conservative morons who are criticizing the “proper forest management” are also climate change deniers. Amirite?

lonely bird

(3,172 posts)
13. Sigh
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:38 AM
13 hrs ago

Just left a message at the office of Idiot Senator Bernie Moreno to stop wasting time on performative nonsense like this bill he wants to introduce regarding smoke from Canadian wildfires.

niyad

(136,003 posts)
17. Please catch me up. It is early yet, and I seem to have missed some
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:02 AM
12 hrs ago

real stupidity.

littlemissmartypants

(36,211 posts)
15. We've done a piss poor job of forest management for many, many reasons for hundreds of years.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:47 AM
12 hrs ago

We could learn a lot from indigenous practices.

And if we don't stop selling wood for fuel and to make easily destroyed light poles that are sold all over the world, soon we won't have any forests to manage.

paleotn

(23,300 posts)
21. Granted but the boreal forest is a whole different matter
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:38 PM
7 hrs ago

Unlike eastern US forests, in Canada it’s never been managed by anyone until the loggers showed up. Few indigenous people ever lived there unlike the continental US. Winters that make Duluth look like Dallas is one reason. Thin poor soils due to short Summers and brutal Winters is another. And clouds of mosquitoes and other insects we can’t fathom when it is relatively warm. One of the last truly wild regions on earth. And it’s burning at higher rates due to fossil fuel driven climate change. If anyone wants to point fingers, we should be pointing them at ourselves.

paleotn

(23,300 posts)
20. Most Americans don't get it
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 02:17 PM
7 hrs ago

You can’t really grasp the vastness of the Canadian boreal forest unless you seen it. Imagine not your county or your state, but your entire region of the US as one nearly contiguous forest with few roads and even fewer humans. The average American has no concept of it. The average magat has no clue. This is not a GD state park!

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