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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo our American friends, this is a map of forests in North America. 347 million hectares of wilderness in highly remote
Interesting map
To our American friends, this is a map of forests in North America.
347 million hectares of wilderness in highly remote areas cannot be contained by proper forest management.
These are enormous, mostly uninhabited areas that are prone to lightning strikes causing wildfires.
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Girard442
(6,965 posts)So, tell Donnie.
Dr. T
(901 posts)is lost on those without such skills. I'm looking at you, average Joe MAGAt.
Biophilic
(6,882 posts)I didnt realize some of us were so stupid as to blame Canadians as directly responsible for the fires and smoke.
Yeah, on second thought, silly me.
Good grief.
Sorry Canada, we havent been the best of neighbors lately.
Johnny2X2X
(24,658 posts)Has full penetration on the Right by yesterday afternoon.
Just idiotic. They are clueless. You cant cut these forests down and logging them wont make a bit of difference.
Cheezoholic
(4,268 posts)More so than in even the large forests at lower latitudes. They are also the 2nd most important forests only to Tropical forests as CO2 scrubbers. What makes it "look" so bad is the forest floor in these areas is a combination of or individually permafrost, peat and/or moss covered which when this specialized forest floor burns gives off copious amounts of smoke. I might also note that, especially in Russia, we are killing these forests at rates they can't recover. The most dangerous aspect of this is exposing more permafrost to an accelerated heating of the climate AND to more intense fire. Permafrost is basically frozen peat and can burn for years. Permafrost could become the greatest releaser of greenhouse gasses, particularly the very dangerous greenhouse gas methane, in the world in the next decade. These forests, while accounting for 1/3 of forests world wide, sequester twice as much in greenhouse gases than all other forests combined. When the frozen peats and permafrost up there finally goes it will release more methane than humans have dumped into the atmosphere in their history. Methane is the greenhouse killer. And when concentrated methane materials burn they release the worst greenhouse gas of them all, water. I have a friend (retired) who worked for the Canadian forestry service studying the Boreal Forests. He said the destruction of those forests by humans scares him more than cars and industrialization etc. by man combined when it comes to global climate change. While I believe we're beyond the tipping point already, runaway methane releases is a bridge too far and will change the planet not for a 100 years or even 500, it could be 10k to 100k years or more before we even get the balance back to today.
littlemissmartypants
(36,211 posts)FakeNoose
(43,527 posts)But in the last 100+ years settlers have cut down trees and turned it into farmland. Canada isn't so different from the American Midwest, it's just colder.
moniss
(9,246 posts)GoCubsGo
(35,118 posts)Thanks to Trump and his DOGEbags, and their gutting of agencies responsible for fighting wildfires, we can barely fight our own fires, let alone help Canada fight theirs. Fuck these fucking fuckers.
markie
(24,141 posts)or apologies necessary for friends.... and it won't mean anything to the ignorant
now, let's talk about climate change and how, (especially the US refusal to acknowledge) is contributing
twodogsbarking
(20,171 posts)Hope22
(4,994 posts)When the fires are in the US .why did Canada send their lightening to start these fires? How about we send some fire support to save the NE from choking to death. Looking for the orange monster to slither on down to FL so he can breathe this weekend!
FakeNoose
(43,527 posts)But I doubt he'll be sitting outside. They'll give him a specially built air-conditioned glass box where he can fall asleep and miss the game.
Hope22
(4,994 posts)Even huffing from one hut to the next will take its toll!
Glaisne
(680 posts)the same conservative morons who are criticizing the proper forest management are also climate change deniers. Amirite?
lonely bird
(3,172 posts)Just left a message at the office of Idiot Senator Bernie Moreno to stop wasting time on performative nonsense like this bill he wants to introduce regarding smoke from Canadian wildfires.
niyad
(136,003 posts)real stupidity.
lonely bird
(3,172 posts)littlemissmartypants
(36,211 posts)We could learn a lot from indigenous practices.
And if we don't stop selling wood for fuel and to make easily destroyed light poles that are sold all over the world, soon we won't have any forests to manage.
paleotn
(23,300 posts)Unlike eastern US forests, in Canada its never been managed by anyone until the loggers showed up. Few indigenous people ever lived there unlike the continental US. Winters that make Duluth look like Dallas is one reason. Thin poor soils due to short Summers and brutal Winters is another. And clouds of mosquitoes and other insects we cant fathom when it is relatively warm. One of the last truly wild regions on earth. And its burning at higher rates due to fossil fuel driven climate change. If anyone wants to point fingers, we should be pointing them at ourselves.
niyad
(136,003 posts)paleotn
(23,300 posts)You cant really grasp the vastness of the Canadian boreal forest unless you seen it. Imagine not your county or your state, but your entire region of the US as one nearly contiguous forest with few roads and even fewer humans. The average American has no concept of it. The average magat has no clue. This is not a GD state park!