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31j20b3

(347 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 04:18 PM 5 hrs ago

T-level expectations of Hegseth misread the basic science of testosterone

https://www.ms.now/opinion/hegseth-pentagon-testosterone-testing-science

There is no one ‘right’ level of testosterone
Testosterone levels vary widely. Within the normal range, that variation does not necessarily translate into meaningful differences in energy, muscle mass or facial hair. Testosterone is just one part of a much more complex hormonal system. How the body responds to it depends not only on the amount circulating in the bloodstream but also on factors such as androgen receptor sensitivity, levels of other hormones and individual genetics.
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T-level expectations of Hegseth misread the basic science of testosterone (Original Post) 31j20b3 5 hrs ago OP
Can't wait till someone tells him about estrogen levels in men Lifeafter70 5 hrs ago #1
Especially when a guy takes in more testosterone than the body requires. LiberalArkie 3 hrs ago #9
Yeah that extra T could become an E Lifeafter70 3 hrs ago #10
And it does... LiberalArkie 1 hr ago #29
Yes its a balancing act Lifeafter70 1 hr ago #30
All Hegseth knows about Testosteroni is "more". maxsolomon 4 hrs ago #2
"Testosteroni". (cue music) It's made with macaroni! orthoclad 1 hr ago #31
Hegseth wants ICE-like thugs in the military-- viva la 4 hrs ago #3
I don;t know why the US would want an army of low IQ belligerent thugs like ICE 31j20b3 4 hrs ago #4
You're assuming these are intelligent rational people making those decisions. ... littlemissmartypants 3 hrs ago #5
Not really, i might be assuming I am an intelligent rational person and 31j20b3 2 hrs ago #24
They need men AND women with those qualities. Nt spooky3 2 hrs ago #23
and stone cold killers. My Lai. orthoclad 1 hr ago #32
My LAI was a crime, even those in the event recognized that 31j20b3 44 min ago #33
Wrong. Calley never spent a day in jail orthoclad 41 min ago #34
As I recall it, Calley was found guilty the sentence wasn;t what people wanted 31j20b3 35 min ago #36
When you are simple minded, it is easy to come up with simple, but meanigless solutions. flashman13 3 hrs ago #6
This message was self-deleted by its author ashredux 3 hrs ago #7
What's he going to do odins folly 3 hrs ago #8
probably fondle them Skittles 3 hrs ago #17
like most conservatives, Pete confuses being a bully with being a man Skittles 3 hrs ago #11
Insecurity will do that to a motherfucker. Iggo 3 hrs ago #15
absolutely correct Skittles 3 hrs ago #18
He wants an all-male military. valleyrogue 3 hrs ago #12
Who's gonna tell him? Iggo 3 hrs ago #14
I'm totally un-surprised that he-man-woman-haters don't understand testosterone. Iggo 3 hrs ago #13
Misread? Mz Pip 3 hrs ago #16
I started having problems in my 60s. BidenRocks 3 hrs ago #19
Damn! BurnDoubt 3 hrs ago #20
90% of low testosterone issues come from poor personal health choices NickB79 3 hrs ago #21
Nugenix Total-T Commercial (Frank Thomas, Doug Flutie) (12/2022) Jacson6 3 hrs ago #22
What an idiot. enigmania 2 hrs ago #25
I do think he's inadequately educated, and substitutes popular stereotypes 31j20b3 2 hrs ago #26
Hegseth misread the basic science of shit California Kid 2 hrs ago #27
I was thinking he got his medical "knowledge" from the brainworm guy. retread 2 hrs ago #28
Does Hegseth beat up on women before or after taking it? Norrrm 37 min ago #35

Lifeafter70

(1,320 posts)
1. Can't wait till someone tells him about estrogen levels in men
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 04:30 PM
5 hrs ago

And if they are too low can cause irritability, mood swings and depression.

LiberalArkie

(20,018 posts)
9. Especially when a guy takes in more testosterone than the body requires.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:04 PM
3 hrs ago

My free T is 18 with my injections.

Lifeafter70

(1,320 posts)
30. Yes its a balancing act
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:15 PM
1 hr ago

Something kegsbreath knows little about.
But he wants to play doctor with our troops

maxsolomon

(39,612 posts)
2. All Hegseth knows about Testosteroni is "more".
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 04:55 PM
4 hrs ago

I bet you 2/3 of the giant assholes in MFer's cabinet are using some form of T.

orthoclad

(5,454 posts)
31. "Testosteroni". (cue music) It's made with macaroni!
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 08:38 PM
1 hr ago

The commercial potentials are great. C'mon you jingle-slingers!

viva la

(4,671 posts)
3. Hegseth wants ICE-like thugs in the military--
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 05:26 PM
4 hrs ago

rather than the highly trained, highly disciplined force we need for the future.
It's clear that he's taking extra "T" and loves that it makes him belligerent and abusive-- or rather, exaggerates those already extant qualities in him.

31j20b3

(347 posts)
4. I don;t know why the US would want an army of low IQ belligerent thugs like ICE
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 05:32 PM
4 hrs ago

Being stupid increases the likelihood of getting dead.

The military need men who can learn and adapt quickly.
The military needs men who can live in close quarters under stress

I don't know an army on earth that would want thugs and dummies for anything but cannon fodder

littlemissmartypants

(36,211 posts)
5. You're assuming these are intelligent rational people making those decisions. ...
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 05:46 PM
4 hrs ago

They're idiots being led by unqualified narcissistic bullies. Who probably couldn't understand the rules of engagement if they even bothered to read them.

Hogsbreath is just a poser, winging it.



Morale must be spectacular.

31j20b3

(347 posts)
24. Not really, i might be assuming I am an intelligent rational person and
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:07 PM
2 hrs ago

because of that I can't understand something irrational and stupid

But if I said that, it would be pretty outrageously self-serving.

31j20b3

(347 posts)
33. My LAI was a crime, even those in the event recognized that
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:02 PM
44 min ago

I have a hard time thinking soldiers want murderers on either side of them

Making the enemy incapable of fighting is the end game, becoming a monster isn't. The guys at My Lai had awful leadership that got frustrated, and they turned on civilians because bad leaders sad the civilians were disguised Viet Cong.

ALong the way to incapacitating your enemy, you've got to keep the enemy in front of you from wiping out the men on either side of you Because, it's THOSE guys who are going to save your ass when you get hit by bullets, mortar rounds, and all else

Assuming every civilian is an enemy reflects collapse of trust and discipline. Everything becomes a matter of NOT trusting they guys next to you. And that transition wrecks the squad, platoon, or company

TRUST that the guys next to you will respond when you are in need is the GLUE that hold together line units. It's the thing that makes medal of honor winners do the most dangerous things possible to care for the other guys in the unit

I don't think any soldier would trust a criminal. I saw guys accused, but not convicted of crimes meet their end wrapped in blankets and found crumpled at the bottom of stairwells... so called Blanket Parties.( Spring 1972 Ft Gordon, GA). That was also a crime and the guys suspected of it were arrested (I can't say how that turned out, because I graduated from my training and left before their trials,


orthoclad

(5,454 posts)
34. Wrong. Calley never spent a day in jail
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:04 PM
41 min ago

a helicopter crew had to train machine guns on the killers to make them stop.

The military WANTS killers.

31j20b3

(347 posts)
36. As I recall it, Calley was found guilty the sentence wasn;t what people wanted
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 09:10 PM
35 min ago

because it was a matter of "house arrest."



flashman13

(2,702 posts)
6. When you are simple minded, it is easy to come up with simple, but meanigless solutions.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 05:50 PM
3 hrs ago

Hogsbreath is a classic example.

Response to 31j20b3 (Original post)

Skittles

(174,100 posts)
11. like most conservatives, Pete confuses being a bully with being a man
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:10 PM
3 hrs ago

he's such a clueless fuck

Skittles

(174,100 posts)
18. absolutely correct
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:21 PM
3 hrs ago

REAL men do not rape or demean women, they stand WITH us

FUCK the mansosphere, bunch of insecure little fucking dipshits

valleyrogue

(2,867 posts)
12. He wants an all-male military.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:12 PM
3 hrs ago

He is openly hostile to women in it.

And then you have that idiot Jesse Watters make light of rape on national television. He should have been fired on the spot for that.

Iggo

(50,200 posts)
13. I'm totally un-surprised that he-man-woman-haters don't understand testosterone.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:13 PM
3 hrs ago

Not that I do. But I also don’t worship the stuff.

BidenRocks

(3,759 posts)
19. I started having problems in my 60s.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:30 PM
3 hrs ago

I was injecting a vial every 3 weeks.
Then I gave up alcohol.
Low T went away.
Pete isn't going to be happy.

BurnDoubt

(2,018 posts)
20. Damn!
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:36 PM
3 hrs ago

Fuckin’ Science!
Not the first time it’s spoiled a good story.
I have a feeling science will reveal just how much hormonal levels affect so much about how our bodies work.
My feeling is hormones don’t much respect gender boundaries laid-out in such detail in the Bible. Troubling?

NickB79

(20,428 posts)
21. 90% of low testosterone issues come from poor personal health choices
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:38 PM
3 hrs ago

Eat healthy, with decent protein intake while watching your saturated fats, along with sufficient fiber and carbs.

Alcohol consumption, known to lower testosterone so limit yourself.

Exercise, a solid mix of cardio for heart health and weight lifting for lean muscle mass generation.

These all loop back to body fat control. Obesity greatly reduces testosterone production.

Sleep, get at least 6 uninterrupted hours a night.

And mental health, depression affects testosterone levels.

Defaulting to TRT without addressing these issues is just a bandaid solution.

Jacson6

(2,375 posts)
22. Nugenix Total-T Commercial (Frank Thomas, Doug Flutie) (12/2022)
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 06:45 PM
3 hrs ago



I'm sure that the selling of this stuff will skyrocket in the military.

enigmania

(521 posts)
25. What an idiot.
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:08 PM
2 hrs ago

I worked out religiously for decades and was more "manly" and anti misogynist than any of these affirmation seeking morons could imagine.

31j20b3

(347 posts)
26. I do think he's inadequately educated, and substitutes popular stereotypes
Fri Jul 17, 2026, 07:11 PM
2 hrs ago

for what should be outcomes of evidence based thinking

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