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ruet

(10,131 posts)
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:30 PM 23 hrs ago

Vance Boelter arrested near Green Isle home, sources tell ABC

Source: KTSP

UPDATE:

Authorities have captured 57-year-old Vance Boelter near his Green Isle home, several sources confirmed to ABC NEWS Sunday night.

He is believed to be responsible for fatally shooting Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband. He also shot Sen. John Hoffman and his wife.

Read more: https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/manhunt-underway-for-man-possibly-posing-as-law-enforcement-in-brooklyn-park/

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Vance Boelter arrested near Green Isle home, sources tell ABC (Original Post) ruet 23 hrs ago OP
Great job, LEOs! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover 23 hrs ago #1
Will there be "Due Process" Traildogbob 23 hrs ago #2
Or will Trump pardon him....? nt Gore1FL 23 hrs ago #4
State crime, can't pardon. Ocelot II 23 hrs ago #6
Does a hate crime become a federal crime? Mme. Defarge 23 hrs ago #11
There's a federal hate crime but it wouldn't apply to this case. Ocelot II 23 hrs ago #13
So why is Bondi going after luigi? Old Crank 22 hrs ago #25
He was charged with *interstate* stalking resulting in death. Ocelot II 22 hrs ago #27
Thanks Old Crank 22 hrs ago #31
I pray they don't find that he made purchases out of state ArizonaLib 19 hrs ago #46
If there are federal charges (maybe relating to firearms?) the state will still charge him Ocelot II 10 hrs ago #57
Thanks! ArizonaLib 9 hrs ago #60
Thank mzmolly 23 hrs ago #3
Not "petty"! It's Right Freaking ON! Cha 22 hrs ago #32
good! I was worried he'd commit suicide before they got h8im.. FirstLight 23 hrs ago #5
There are fates worse than death. Dr. T 22 hrs ago #35
I thought he had roommates, now I hear he has a wife too? Wingus Dingus 23 hrs ago #7
Was spending a few nights a week nearer to his work or nearer to looking for work. Something like that. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 23 hrs ago #12
That he was digging eyeballs out of people to make money... littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #34
Yes, that is creepy. Wingus Dingus 14 hrs ago #50
The asshole has been taken into custody LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #8
Goddamn him! luvallpeeps 23 hrs ago #10
Good job, MNPD. sheshe2 23 hrs ago #9
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling 23 hrs ago #14
Oh, good! sinkingfeeling 23 hrs ago #14
Why is he only being charged with second degree murder (2) and second degree attempted murder (2)? Anybody up sinkingfeeling 23 hrs ago #16
That's the way it's done. First-degree murder has to be charged by grand jury indictment, Ocelot II 23 hrs ago #19
Thanks. sinkingfeeling 23 hrs ago #21
Ty! SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #28
And defiantly pre-meditated. Bengus81 13 hrs ago #51
My guess would be that they're going for the sure charges now, with the option to upgrade later as the case develops. NBachers 23 hrs ago #20
See above post. First-degree murder charge has to be by grand jury indictment, Ocelot II 22 hrs ago #22
I was wrong Kali 23 hrs ago #17
Same Here ProfessorGAC 14 hrs ago #49
Probably Kali 13 hrs ago #53
Me too n/t malaise 6 hrs ago #61
My question: Who was helping him? NBachers 23 hrs ago #18
My question as well. bluestarone 11 hrs ago #56
Local authorities say there will be a press conference at 10:30 tonight dflprincess 22 hrs ago #23
Thank goodness mountain grammy 22 hrs ago #24
Had No Kings signs in his car. purple_haze 22 hrs ago #26
They got him! James48 22 hrs ago #29
I was hoping for a quick capture tonekat 22 hrs ago #30
TY!! Good on the MN State Patrol! Can't wait to hear Cha 22 hrs ago #33
According to the local tv news and the press conference, Ocelot II 22 hrs ago #37
Oh My Gosh! I got Chills! TY So Cha 22 hrs ago #39
He was captured instead of being assassinated Klarkashton 22 hrs ago #36
Thank goodness he was merely a premeditated-murdering armed white male RockRaven 22 hrs ago #38
White wing. NT usonian 21 hrs ago #42
Very happy to hear this! Delphinus 22 hrs ago #40
Taken alive, no less. RandySF 21 hrs ago #41
Attention on the cell block! BidenRocks 21 hrs ago #43
Thank pitchforks and pointed ears. nt BootinUp 20 hrs ago #44
It's a good thing... Godot51 20 hrs ago #45
They found three AK-47s in his vehicle muriel_volestrangler 17 hrs ago #47
Yes, semiautomatic AK's are legal NickB79 16 hrs ago #48
AND ... marble falls 13 hrs ago #54
gun humpers gotta hump Skittles 4 hrs ago #63
So much for the ultra survivalist meme the press seemed to be hawking. marble falls 13 hrs ago #52
Turns out he's a wannabe whose security business never got off the ground. Ocelot II 10 hrs ago #58
He's the Walter Mitty of Ninjas. marble falls 10 hrs ago #59
I thought Palantir had all the bad apples ID'd before they erupted bucolic_frolic 12 hrs ago #55
Photos, and presser with Gov Walz, and Wired's report of the lies on Musk's platform ancianita 4 hrs ago #62

Traildogbob

(11,298 posts)
2. Will there be "Due Process"
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:34 PM
23 hrs ago

For the white man that kills Dems?
You betcha! Much more than Garcia.
He will never see El Salvador.

Ocelot II

(125,295 posts)
13. There's a federal hate crime but it wouldn't apply to this case.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:58 PM
23 hrs ago

18 U.S.C. § 249 makes it a federal crime to "willfully cause bodily injury.. or death.. based on the victim's actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability, if the crime affects interstate or foreign commerce or occurs within federal jurisdiction." None of the victims were members of the listed groups and the crime didn't affect interstate or foreign commerce or occur within federal jurisdiction. Minnesota doesn't have a separate hate crime law but a statute provides for enhanced penalties if a crime victim is a member of one those groups - but they weren't.

Ocelot II

(125,295 posts)
27. He was charged with *interstate* stalking resulting in death.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:37 PM
22 hrs ago

Mangione had come to NY from Atlanta for the purpose of murdering Brian Thompson, so the interstate requirement for federal jurisdiction was satisfied. There's no interstate element in Boelter's case.

ArizonaLib

(1,280 posts)
46. I pray they don't find that he made purchases out of state
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:22 AM
19 hrs ago

Or something else they can use to send him to some club med bizarro Guantanamo (the opposite of real incarceration). Or they don't Jack Ruby him. Sorry I am unable to put snything past this Reich. Fingers still crossed though. I don't know hardly anything about the criminal system except to avoid having to deal with law enforcement.

Ocelot II

(125,295 posts)
57. If there are federal charges (maybe relating to firearms?) the state will still charge him
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:33 AM
10 hrs ago

with murder and attempted murder (as of this morning that has already happened). Federal charges, if any, would be in addition to the state charges, and would not remove him from the state's jurisdiction.

mzmolly

(52,265 posts)
3. Thank
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:35 PM
23 hrs ago

goodness! I'm glad it was MN State Patrol and not Trump's FBI that made the arrest, though I know that's petty.

Cha

(311,959 posts)
32. Not "petty"! It's Right Freaking ON!
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:44 PM
22 hrs ago

TY & MN State Patrol!

I wonder how he got caught?!

FirstLight

(15,274 posts)
5. good! I was worried he'd commit suicide before they got h8im..
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:42 PM
23 hrs ago

I hope they keep a close eye on him...

Dr. T

(266 posts)
35. There are fates worse than death.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:51 PM
22 hrs ago

Life in prison is at the top of the list.

To paraphrase the artist Sting, there is no heaven and their is no hell. I hope this is his hell.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,490 posts)
12. Was spending a few nights a week nearer to his work or nearer to looking for work. Something like that. . . nt
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:53 PM
23 hrs ago

littlemissmartypants

(27,999 posts)
34. That he was digging eyeballs out of people to make money...
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:50 PM
22 hrs ago

Especially weird.

I had a patient, in the early nineties, that died of Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease from infected eyeballs from the dangerous, unregulated American transplant industry.

Digging out eyeballs takes a special kind of person.

Response to ruet (Original post)

sinkingfeeling

(55,552 posts)
16. Why is he only being charged with second degree murder (2) and second degree attempted murder (2)? Anybody up
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:03 PM
23 hrs ago

on Minnesota law?

Ocelot II

(125,295 posts)
19. That's the way it's done. First-degree murder has to be charged by grand jury indictment,
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:08 PM
23 hrs ago

so the initial charge is always second-degree murder, which can be done by complaint. He'll be arraigned on that charge at first, and after that the case will be brought before a grand jury to obtain a first-degree murder indictment.

NBachers

(18,624 posts)
20. My guess would be that they're going for the sure charges now, with the option to upgrade later as the case develops.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:09 PM
23 hrs ago

But that’s just spitballing.

Ocelot II

(125,295 posts)
22. See above post. First-degree murder charge has to be by grand jury indictment,
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:11 PM
22 hrs ago

so the initial charge is always second-degree murder by complaint until the case can go to a grand jury.

Kali

(56,258 posts)
17. I was wrong
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:05 PM
23 hrs ago

Figured he offed himself in the woods someplace.

Now he can be a prison preacher.

ProfessorGAC

(73,123 posts)
49. Same Here
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 07:23 AM
14 hrs ago

I was sure of it, and said so here yesterday.
I'll accept I was wrong, but I'm amazed he let himself get caught.

dflprincess

(28,855 posts)
23. Local authorities say there will be a press conference at 10:30 tonight
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:17 PM
22 hrs ago

For those not in Minnesota our local stations are: (just in case CNN or MSNBC don't cover it live)

WCCO (CBS)
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/

KSTP (ABC)
https://kstp.com/local-news/

KARE (NBC)
https://www.kare11.com/local

On edit: Looks like both CNN & MSNBC are going to cover it. (Their Sunday night programming is usually so iffy)

tonekat

(2,247 posts)
30. I was hoping for a quick capture
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:42 PM
22 hrs ago

Apparently he's a military/LEO/Security wanna-be, preacher, anti-choice whacko, and food service specialist.

Cha

(311,959 posts)
33. TY!! Good on the MN State Patrol! Can't wait to hear
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:50 PM
22 hrs ago

how they spotted him and proceeded to Capture!

Ocelot II

(125,295 posts)
37. According to the local tv news and the press conference,
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:57 PM
22 hrs ago

he was hiding in the woods near his house out in Sibley County, and a neighbor saw him on a trail camera and called the police. He was cornered in the woods and spotted with drones and finally surrendered.

Cha

(311,959 posts)
39. Oh My Gosh! I got Chills! TY So
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:03 AM
22 hrs ago

Much, Ocelot!

Like a Cornered Rabid Rat.

Than Goodness for the Neighbor!

RockRaven

(17,411 posts)
38. Thank goodness he was merely a premeditated-murdering armed white male
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:01 AM
22 hrs ago

and not something really dangerous like an unarmed black man buying something with a questionable $20 bill.

Delphinus

(12,303 posts)
40. Very happy to hear this!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:04 AM
22 hrs ago

Let him sing loudly - or his family members, who should have been detained when they stopped them earlier.

Godot51

(495 posts)
45. It's a good thing...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:50 AM
20 hrs ago

... for him that he wasn't Black (for any reason), wasn't a black child holding a toy gun, or some other "dark" skinned fugitive who simply ran from the police.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,902 posts)
47. They found three AK-47s in his vehicle
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 04:52 AM
17 hrs ago
Charges say officers searched the SUV and found at least three AK-47 assault rifles, a 9mm handgun and a list of names and addresses of other public officials.

While searching the area, police found a ballistic vest, a disassembled 9mm handgun, a mask and a gold police-style badge. The criminal complaint says Boelter is the listed purchaser for at least four of the guns taken by police.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/vance-boelter-charges-minnesota-lawmaker-shootings/

"At least four of the guns" - with two handguns noted, does that mean it's legal to own AK-47s in Minnesota?

If the police hadn't found him at the second address, imagine what he might have gone on to do.

NickB79

(19,936 posts)
48. Yes, semiautomatic AK's are legal
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:21 AM
16 hrs ago

No different than an AR-15. You need a handgun license from the local police dept to purchase anything with a pistol grip, which basically takes 1-2 weeks to receive after you apply.

The local Fleet Farm carries a few models near me.

marble falls

(66,099 posts)
54. AND ...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 08:47 AM
13 hrs ago


Century Arms Draco 9s 9mm AK-47 Style Pistol with 35 Round Magazine and SOB47 Brace

$619.99 $549.99

In Stock

Brand: Century Arms
Item Number: HG7889-N


Here's a whole page of "pistols" - https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/ak-47-pistols-for-sale


When you make a shotgun into a "pistol" you get what got David Koresh and the Branch Davidians and the guy at Ruby Ridge into shootouts with the federal government over.

Ocelot II

(125,295 posts)
58. Turns out he's a wannabe whose security business never got off the ground.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM
10 hrs ago

It seems to have had no clients at all, but apparently he used it as a way to obtain a vehicle and some law enforcement accoutrements. Whether he ever intended the business to be legit or just wanted a front for his assassination plot isn't clear yet, but although his cop ruse was enough to get him into the homes of his victims, he was never the skilled ninja-type portrayed by some of the media.

bucolic_frolic

(50,863 posts)
55. I thought Palantir had all the bad apples ID'd before they erupted
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 09:27 AM
12 hrs ago

Guess it was fake news

ancianita

(40,665 posts)
62. Photos, and presser with Gov Walz, and Wired's report of the lies on Musk's platform
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:42 PM
4 hrs ago





https://www.wired.com/story/psyop-far-right-conspiracy-theories-minnesota-shooting/

“The far left is murderously violent,” Elon Musk wrote on X on Saturday, a post that remains on the site and has been viewed over 50 million times.

When the facts of the story emerged—that the alleged shooter had been registered in other states as a Republican, was said to have voted for President Donald Trump and, as WIRED reported, had participated in an evangelical ministry where he preached against abortion and demonized the LGTBQ community—the conspiracy theories didn’t stop. Instead, they just changed. Posters then claimed the incident was a false flag conducted by the shadowy deep state, while trying to distance the shooter from any connection to the president and the wider MAGA movement...For years in the wake of mass shootings or politically-motivated violence, the far-right has sought to portray the perpetrators as leftists, members of antifa, part of the LGBTQ community, or connected in some way to the Democratic party, despite all evidence showing that the extremist violence is usually conducted by far-right actors...

YouTuber Benny Johnson, who has almost 5 million followers on the video-sharing site and more than 3 million followers on X, positioned the shooting as part of a growing trend of left-wing violence in a long screed on X that described the alleged shooter as “a left-wing Tim Walz appointee.“

“Everyone talks about Minnesota, but they don't talk about the guy seems to be a leftist,” Donald Trump Jr. said in an an interview with News Nation. “The guy who committed those atrocities this weekend was a Democrat who worked for Tim Walz.” When pressed by the interviewer, who replied, “he voted for your Dad,” Trump Jr. said, “I'll believe that when I see it.”


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