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demmiblue

(40,047 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:07 PM 15 hrs ago

Iran Says Strait of Hormuz Won't Have 'Tolls' but It Will Have 'Fees'

Source: NYT

Though President Trump declared on Sunday that the Strait of Hormuz would reopen and be “permanently toll-free,” Iran indicated on Monday that it intended to charge fees for unspecified services in the strait.

The net effect — paying for passage through the vital waterway for global energy supplies, which was not required before the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran — could add expense and complications for commercial shipping in the waterway, and set a dangerous precedent for shipping in international waters worldwide.

Iran’s foreign ministry spokesman, Esmaeil Baghaei, said on Monday that Iran was “not seeking to levy transit tolls; however, fees will be charged in exchange for the services that are provided.” But there was little indication of what services Iran would be providing. Iranian officials have said they might assess environmental charges.

Legally speaking, there is a distinction between a toll — a payment for passage — and fees for actual services rendered, for example providing waste services at a port. Fees can be legal in certain contexts but a toll in the Strait of Hormuz would not be, maritime law experts say, and requiring payment for ships to use a waterway that has long been free would not be rendered legal simply by calling it a fee.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/world/middleeast/shipping-fees-tolls-strait-hormuz.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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Iran Says Strait of Hormuz Won't Have 'Tolls' but It Will Have 'Fees' (Original Post) demmiblue 15 hrs ago OP
Iran wins again............... Lovie777 15 hrs ago #1
MUCH Bigger than that. This is a violation of the Law of the Seas, the foundation of ALL international trade. pat_k 15 hrs ago #9
Why hasn't the UN been acting to keep it open? MichMan 14 hrs ago #12
I don't actually know much about it, but FWIW, here's an AI summary. pat_k 14 hrs ago #13
Thanks for that MichMan 14 hrs ago #15
Well, we don't actually have any "official" confirmation of what the hell is in the MoU. pat_k 14 hrs ago #16
Hasn't Iran already been charging tolls for weeks now? MichMan 14 hrs ago #17
Yes. To date, I suppose the matter has been left as an issue between Iran and the nations paying the "fees" to work out. pat_k 14 hrs ago #18
Iran always wins with Republicans... LiberalArkie 15 hrs ago #10
Maybe they can call it a tariff /nt bucolic_frolic 15 hrs ago #2
Sounds like those states which brag about not having "taxes" but then have "fees" up the wazoo. RockRaven 15 hrs ago #3
Like my state.. Deuxcents 15 hrs ago #4
Thanks Donny. Nt BootinUp 15 hrs ago #5
Wonder what "fee" we are paying Jared for his "services." delisen 15 hrs ago #6
That's like saying admission is free/pay at the door... agingdem 15 hrs ago #7
VERY BIG DEAL. In agreeing, the felon sez to hell with the Law of the Seas on which international trade is based. pat_k 15 hrs ago #8
Strait of Hormuz is classified as an international strait under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea MichMan 15 hrs ago #11
The US caused this whole debacle and isn't doing anything. SunSeeker 14 hrs ago #19
That will jack prices at the pump by .50--1.00 per gallon Bengus81 14 hrs ago #14
Not with a bang but a whimper. C Moon 11 hrs ago #20

pat_k

(14,366 posts)
9. MUCH Bigger than that. This is a violation of the Law of the Seas, the foundation of ALL international trade.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:42 PM
15 hrs ago

See post 8 below.

pat_k

(14,366 posts)
13. I don't actually know much about it, but FWIW, here's an AI summary.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 09:33 PM
14 hrs ago

Apply whatever level of skepticism you apply to all AI:

The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) explicitly prohibits coastal nations from charging tolls or fees simply for transiting natural international straits

Conflicts regarding the Law of the Sea are primarily resolved through the dispute settlement mechanisms mandated by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

Under Part XV of the Convention, nations are legally required to settle their maritime and ocean disputes through peaceful means, such as direct negotiation, mediation, or conciliation.

If those efforts fail, nations have compulsory recourse to one of four binding judicial bodies:

International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS): Based in Hamburg, Germany, this independent judicial body specializes entirely in maritime disputes, such as delimitation of boundaries and fishing rights. It notably handles cases requiring emergency, provisional measures or the "prompt release" of detained vessels and crews.

International Court of Justice (ICJ): Located in The Hague, Netherlands, the primary judicial organ of the UN can also hear and resolve disputes between nations.

Annex VII Arbitral Tribunal: Often the most common and flexible option, this process relies on a panel of five arbitrators appointed by the disputing parties. The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague acts as the registry for these proceedings.

Annex VIII Special Arbitral Tribunal: These are specialized panels composed of experts in particular fields (e.g., fisheries, marine environment, scientific research) established to resolve specific technical disputes.

When signing or ratifying UNCLOS, nations can declare which of these four forums they prefer to use. If they do not designate a preference, arbitration under Annex VII becomes the default mechanism.

MichMan

(17,559 posts)
15. Thanks for that
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 09:40 PM
14 hrs ago

The process should have already been followed as prescribed. I have heard zilch about it, so I have to assume they aren't doing a damn thing.

pat_k

(14,366 posts)
16. Well, we don't actually have any "official" confirmation of what the hell is in the MoU.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 09:51 PM
14 hrs ago

But it strikes me that if the U.S. - Iran agreement includes a fee of any kind, it's a serious problem.

I don't see how the U.S. could make an agreement that empowers Iran to violate the Law of the Seas on behalf of all other nations.

So, if other nations balk at the insanity, it becomes a multi-nation "dispute" that needs to be resolved among themselves (likely impossible), and failing that, would probably end up with an Annex VII Arbitral Tribunal.

Of course, the felon and the administration players pulling his strings have no respect for rule of law at any level so he and his band of lunatics probably think they can just strongarm everyone into accepting this violation. And if that is allowed to stand, nations that have natural straits will start following suit. And it will become an international trade clusterfuck.

pat_k

(14,366 posts)
18. Yes. To date, I suppose the matter has been left as an issue between Iran and the nations paying the "fees" to work out.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 10:02 PM
14 hrs ago

And those nations have been waiting for the U.S. and Iran to come to some agreement -- one that would presumably bar any such fees going forward.

I suspect it will come as a shock to other nations if it turns out the U.S.-Iran MoU empowers Iran to charge fees of other nations. If that is formalized, I'm guessing that is when the shit will hit the fan.

And would guess that some of that shit is hitting the fan at the G7 right now.

LiberalArkie

(19,959 posts)
10. Iran always wins with Republicans...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:43 PM
15 hrs ago

Carter wins an election... Iran decides to capture American hostages..
Hostages held until Regan sworn in...
Reagan gives them weapons.

RockRaven

(19,948 posts)
3. Sounds like those states which brag about not having "taxes" but then have "fees" up the wazoo.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:13 PM
15 hrs ago

delisen

(7,478 posts)
6. Wonder what "fee" we are paying Jared for his "services."
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:31 PM
15 hrs ago

I suspect the fee for looting the American treasury is high

pat_k

(14,366 posts)
8. VERY BIG DEAL. In agreeing, the felon sez to hell with the Law of the Seas on which international trade is based.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:39 PM
15 hrs ago

While the foundational concept driving trade is economic, the Law of the Sea (codified primarily in the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea) provides the legal framework that makes physical international trade possible.

This cannot be allowed to stand. I suspect the G7 nations are raising hell about this.

And he is too f-ing clueless to understand.

I think he deteriorated to a point that he understands none of it. This may be the only explanation for the "deal." I cannot imagine the narcissistic psychopath knowingly entering this humiliating surrender and gargantuan loss. I think he is so out of it that J.D. and co are just "handling" him, assuring him it's a big win.

MichMan

(17,559 posts)
11. Strait of Hormuz is classified as an international strait under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 08:48 PM
15 hrs ago

Under international law, Iran must allow uninterrupted passage. Why isn't the UN doing anything?

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