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BumRushDaShow

(174,381 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 05:52 PM 11 hrs ago

Standard time could become permanent in US under new bill, with some exceptions

Source: The Hill

07/13/26 11:14 AM ET


(NEXSTAR) – A new bill introduced in Congress could drastically change how we observe the twice-a-year practice of changing the clocks, even as a move to make daylight saving time permanent gains traction. For the last few years, there have been several attempts to make daylight saving time — the time we are currently observing — permanent. The Sunshine Protection Act passed through the Senate in 2022, but subsequent versions of the legislation haven’t been as lucky.

The House could vote on its version of the Sunshine Protection Act this week in a move that could end the twice-a-year changing of the clocks. The U.S. has long had a back-and-forth relationship with daylight saving time, with each attempt at making it permanent being rolled back a short time later.

But a bill introduced in the House last week could take a largely different approach. The bipartisan “Sunshine for Our Kids Act of 2026” was introduced by Reps. Mary Gay Scanlon (D-Penn.) and Pat Harrigan (R-NC). It calls for permanent standard time — the time we observe from November through March — in the U.S., with some exceptions.

While health experts agree that standard time is better for our health, most efforts in Congress and throughout the U.S. have focused on making daylight saving time permanent. Nearly 20 states have passed legislation to observe daylight saving time year-round, should Congress approve it. Only Hawaii and parts of Arizona observe standard time year-round.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5965517-standard-time-could-become-permanent-in-us-under-new-bill-with-some-exceptions/



Link to draft BILL - H.R.9638 - Sunshine for Our Kids Act of 2026


RELATED - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143693290
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Standard time could become permanent in US under new bill, with some exceptions (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 11 hrs ago OP
if it has to stay the same year round standard is the way to go. Blues Heron 11 hrs ago #1
Unless you like to do something after work in the evening. dem4decades 10 hrs ago #10
the early winter mornings though, no thanks Blues Heron 10 hrs ago #12
Jeez, just turn on a light. FoxNewsSucks 7 hrs ago #30
We tried that back in the 70s, the minute people got a taste of the reality of DST in January Blues Heron 6 hrs ago #35
You're absolutely correct Katcat 6 hrs ago #36
I was there. FoxNewsSucks 6 hrs ago #38
people hated it, cant blame them, it sucked the big one. Who wants to hustle out the door an hour early in winter Blues Heron 6 hrs ago #39
Good gay texan 11 hrs ago #2
And in five years (or less) people will be howling to change it back... appmanga 11 hrs ago #3
Once Dems are back in power, Republicans will realize they hate it, tanyev 10 hrs ago #9
No we won't - it is a hellish thing to put people through Tumbulu 8 hrs ago #18
But they did in the 70s Polybius 7 hrs ago #27
It was not fun Katcat 6 hrs ago #37
that is not true for CA- people have been trying to get rid of it since it began Tumbulu 4 hrs ago #43
Seems like something you should allow each state to decide muriel_volestrangler 11 hrs ago #4
New England should change to Atlantic time RockCreek 11 hrs ago #5
While I will agree with your proposal and it's intended purpose, adding a fifth time zone to America's consciousness.... FadedMullet 10 hrs ago #8
Oh great. Fiendish Thingy 11 hrs ago #6
If you "standardize" it all over the country, but have some exceptions, it isn't standardized. C'mon people, make up.... FadedMullet 10 hrs ago #7
Changing school hours for kids will require changing work hours for many parents as well. Very disruptive. eppur_se_muova 9 hrs ago #16
Politicians in the back pocket of the tourist industry? Sounds like your bigger problem. FadedMullet 4 hrs ago #44
With all that our country is facing . . . . Scubamatt 10 hrs ago #11
Why not just leap forward an hour every year? After 24 years we'd be back at the same time! erronis 10 hrs ago #13
wonder what the "exceptions" are mdbl 10 hrs ago #14
Standard time absolutely sucks. valleyrogue 9 hrs ago #15
If you want an extra hour, get up an hour early. People who favor standard time are always told to just change eppur_se_muova 9 hrs ago #17
Because those who prefer a later day are the vast majority Polybius 7 hrs ago #25
Not at all. According to whichever poll you read, a majority favors one or the other. eppur_se_muova 7 hrs ago #28
Americans get confused Polybius 7 hrs ago #29
I'm tired of having to worry about other people's kids. FoxNewsSucks 6 hrs ago #32
extra hour of LIGHT outdoors FoxNewsSucks 6 hrs ago #31
I love the extra light at the end of the day... slightlv 8 hrs ago #19
The real issue is the North-South difference in daylight, not the time zones. No wonder it's a debate. maxsolomon 8 hrs ago #20
Children out in the dark of morning is certainly a factor. Bombing them in daylight is easier. twodogsbarking 8 hrs ago #21
100% Standard time. This still twightlight at 11 pm crap just sux. Indiana never used to switch and when they finall did Cheezoholic 8 hrs ago #22
Good. Long overdue. n/t PatrickforB 8 hrs ago #23
What about changing the school schedule to a winter schedule? Buddyzbuddy 8 hrs ago #24
I don't like it Polybius 7 hrs ago #26
It's been done before and abandoned shortly after PSPS 6 hrs ago #33
I have trouble driving at night Danmel 6 hrs ago #34
Sounds like yet another use for our soon-to-be-foisted-on-us Space Mirrors. yonder 6 hrs ago #40
..but, are they Jewish Space Mirrors? LudwigPastorius 5 hrs ago #41
This is probably more performative BS from a do nothing Congress. love_katz 4 hrs ago #42
"Seems like something you should allow each state to decide" J_William_Ryan 3 hrs ago #45

Blues Heron

(9,240 posts)
35. We tried that back in the 70s, the minute people got a taste of the reality of DST in January
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 10:23 PM
6 hrs ago

They couldn’t wait to get back on standard, it was gone within a year.

Katcat

(685 posts)
36. You're absolutely correct
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 10:41 PM
6 hrs ago

I was in high school in the 70s and I remember going out in the dark to stand on a lonely country road waiting for the bus.

Blues Heron

(9,240 posts)
39. people hated it, cant blame them, it sucked the big one. Who wants to hustle out the door an hour early in winter
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 10:55 PM
6 hrs ago

Just because snowflakes struggle with changing the clock twice a year.

appmanga

(1,609 posts)
3. And in five years (or less) people will be howling to change it back...
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 05:57 PM
11 hrs ago

...and in this age of digital clocks, many of which updated themselves, is this really something we need? Having a couple of after-work hours of daylight (at least in my time zone) in October and early-November counts as a good thing to me.

tanyev

(50,045 posts)
9. Once Dems are back in power, Republicans will realize they hate it,
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 06:15 PM
10 hrs ago

and blame Democrats for forcing it on the country.

😒

Tumbulu

(6,642 posts)
18. No we won't - it is a hellish thing to put people through
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 08:02 PM
8 hrs ago

totally unnecessary stress.

Tumbulu

(6,642 posts)
43. that is not true for CA- people have been trying to get rid of it since it began
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 12:28 AM
4 hrs ago

and only Arizona, Hawaii and some part of Indiana figured out how to not participate.

In CA we have passed two referendums to get rid of it, but the feds have not let us out of participating in the hell of the ridiculous time switching that messes with all of the biological systems of our bodies. Totally stupid and unnecessary stress that is utterly preventable by not changing the time.

The six years that I lived in Arizona were so refreshing without the upheaval.

Where did they get rid of it only to bring it back?

muriel_volestrangler

(107,087 posts)
4. Seems like something you should allow each state to decide
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 05:58 PM
11 hrs ago

Certainly, if the US (sorry, the GOTHS) decides to abolish the change, then allow each state to decide which of their current time zones they'll remain in; northern and southern states may well have different preferences. But why not allow states to remain changing, if they want to? Changing makes more sense in northern states (maybe except Alaska, which is so far north that sunrise and sunset vary far more than an hour change can take advantage of),

RockCreek

(1,677 posts)
5. New England should change to Atlantic time
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 05:59 PM
11 hrs ago

(with Canada's Maritime Provinces) of this were to happen. It is relatively far North with greater changes in daylight hours from season to season. On rainy days, it is dark by just after 4 PM in the winter. In the summer, it gets light out just after 4 AM.

FadedMullet

(1,178 posts)
8. While I will agree with your proposal and it's intended purpose, adding a fifth time zone to America's consciousness....
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 06:10 PM
10 hrs ago

......will cause our fragile social structure to collapse.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,775 posts)
6. Oh great.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 06:00 PM
11 hrs ago

BC just switched to permanent Dailight time.

That means, there would be a permanent 1 hour difference between BC and the Pacific zone in the US.

FadedMullet

(1,178 posts)
7. If you "standardize" it all over the country, but have some exceptions, it isn't standardized. C'mon people, make up....
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 06:07 PM
10 hrs ago

......your mind, one way or another. If we standardize the bi-annual switch (my choice) and people bitch about school kids going to school in the dark in Arizona, just tell them to change the school hours. And even go so far as to tell them that they can change the school hours again, in the middle of the school year, if their parents would just shut up.

eppur_se_muova

(43,026 posts)
16. Changing school hours for kids will require changing work hours for many parents as well. Very disruptive.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 07:17 PM
9 hrs ago

Better to pick standard time and stick with it.

PS: When I went to school in FL we had to get out of bed at 6:00 to catch our bus at 6:25. It was dark as night, and as cold as it ever got in FL. Jr. High and High School started at 7:00 and ended at 3:00. We hated it -- but local pols had decided that letting teens out of school at 3:00 provided lots of cheap labor for the local tourist industry, and that's what counted. Parents have no chance to change the hours in such a situation.

Scubamatt

(356 posts)
11. With all that our country is facing . . . .
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 06:21 PM
10 hrs ago
This is what our Congress is spending its time on?

erronis

(25,254 posts)
13. Why not just leap forward an hour every year? After 24 years we'd be back at the same time!
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 06:49 PM
10 hrs ago

I'm being silly. But it would be fun to watch.

valleyrogue

(2,846 posts)
15. Standard time absolutely sucks.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 07:05 PM
9 hrs ago

Fuck any attempt to make it permanent year-round.

It just goes to show you these bums in Congress don't appreciate how millions of us enjoy the extra hour at the end of the day. They don't do an honest day's work to begin with.

eppur_se_muova

(43,026 posts)
17. If you want an extra hour, get up an hour early. People who favor standard time are always told to just change
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 07:30 PM
9 hrs ago

their hours -- why shouldn't the same apply to people like you who prefer an earlier day ??? Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

Try waiting for a school bus in the cold and dark between 6 & 7 AM in N. Florida and you'll grasp the objections a little better. Especially if you get hit by a car, which is so much more easily accomplished in the dark. FL loses a few students that way every year.

eppur_se_muova

(43,026 posts)
28. Not at all. According to whichever poll you read, a majority favors one or the other.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:28 PM
7 hrs ago

The differences from one poll to another are substantial, but never is the majority "overwhelming".

https://www.google.com/search?q=do+americans+prefer+standard+time+or+daylight+saving+time&udm=14

I would have thought that kids getting hit by cars in the dark would trump a moderate majority, but apparently I live in a different world from you.

Polybius

(22,392 posts)
29. Americans get confused
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:35 PM
7 hrs ago

I think you should try wording it like this: Do Americans prefer it to get dark later or earlier?

Not everything revolves around kids, I could care less about them going to school in the dark. They already do in parts of late Fall and Winter, and I like morning darkness anyway.

The only ones I've ever met to prefer DST are old folks that are proud of being early birds. Fair enough, they are entitled to their opinions.

Now with all that being said, I don't prefer either. I like the way it is now, just change it twice a year.

FoxNewsSucks

(12,038 posts)
32. I'm tired of having to worry about other people's kids.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 10:04 PM
6 hrs ago

No one worries about my dogs.

And here, every morning, I see cars at every cross street idling with their kids inside waiting for the bus to get to that corner. Being light outside will make no difference.

slightlv

(8,307 posts)
19. I love the extra light at the end of the day...
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 08:02 PM
8 hrs ago

but I'm one of those who votes for Standard Time as the norm. For millennia, our bodies have adjusted to the rising and setting of the sun. Many of us, some of us in particular, are truly thrown for loops by these time changes. My circadian rhythm has been thrown off for decades now, and I blame it at least partly on trying to adjust to what society says, rather than what the sun and moon tell me. Maybe I'm crazy... yeah, I am (at least a bit!)... but I feel the changes for weeks afterwards, even now that I'm retired and it doesn't really matter anymore. But my whole body, physically and emotionally, feels "off" for weeks. I find myself more unbalanced and tripping over the least little things, and concentration and memory is even harder than it normally is.

Like I said, I love the extra hour at night for daylight... but I think our bodies should be heeded with the caution warnings they give at each time change... like more heart attacks, more car accidents, etc.

Having said all that, I figure they're not going to do a damn thing about it this time, either. If it ain't good for business, it ain't gonna happen, IMO.

maxsolomon

(39,561 posts)
20. The real issue is the North-South difference in daylight, not the time zones. No wonder it's a debate.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 08:02 PM
8 hrs ago

If I lived in San Diego or Brownsville, DST does nothing for me. Constant amounts of daylight with little seasonal shift.

But where I live at 47 degrees North, its 8.5 hours of daylight on the Winter Solstice, 16 on the Summer Solstice. I think DST is great. Even with DST, it starts to get light here before 5 this time of year. It's light nearly till 10.

twodogsbarking

(20,085 posts)
21. Children out in the dark of morning is certainly a factor. Bombing them in daylight is easier.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 08:04 PM
8 hrs ago

I don't know if that is or not but I am ashamed to have had the impulse to write it.

Cheezoholic

(4,226 posts)
22. 100% Standard time. This still twightlight at 11 pm crap just sux. Indiana never used to switch and when they finall did
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 08:20 PM
8 hrs ago

Golfers became the enemy of the state, literally. Everyone to this day is convinced that was the single reason it was changed lol.

Buddyzbuddy

(3,141 posts)
24. What about changing the school schedule to a winter schedule?
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 08:58 PM
8 hrs ago

Start time 1-2 hours later. I imagine, they would like to "sleep in" during the winter. The amount of time in school would be the same with just a later start time. They might be more productive. At Spring break they can use the week to adjust to the new schedule.
Just a thought.

Polybius

(22,392 posts)
26. I don't like it
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 09:26 PM
7 hrs ago

While I prefer that we stay like we do now, even permanent DST is better than permanent Standard.

PSPS

(15,431 posts)
33. It's been done before and abandoned shortly after
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 10:07 PM
6 hrs ago

The only question is how high the pile of kids' corpses will be this time around.

Danmel

(5,837 posts)
34. I have trouble driving at night
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 10:20 PM
6 hrs ago

Especially with super bright headlights. And I'm not retired, so I much prefer daylight savings time.

yonder

(10,327 posts)
40. Sounds like yet another use for our soon-to-be-foisted-on-us Space Mirrors.
Mon Jul 13, 2026, 10:59 PM
6 hrs ago

Instant sunlight gratificaton for all people everywhere, wanted or not, just like the Gawds themselves intended.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143694919





love_katz

(3,317 posts)
42. This is probably more performative BS from a do nothing Congress.
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 12:11 AM
4 hrs ago

Or, they're trying to have something to offer the country before t h e mid-terms?
They certainly haven't gotten anything actually useful done.

I find myself wanting to shout: EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN!!!

J_William_Ryan

(3,720 posts)
45. "Seems like something you should allow each state to decide"
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 01:33 AM
3 hrs ago

Florida wants permanent DST bad so the tourists can stay out later and spend more money.

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