Final Update on transferring from-to old new machines. Forecast of coming dilemma: Ridding of OneDrive.

[UTUSN]

For the whole gory details, storm and stress, see https://www.democraticunderground.com/109536595 if stomach allows.

The outcome in a nutshell was: External CD/DVD machine to install an old program disc on the new machine; and a thumb for transferring a missing folder.

Among the undealt-with things learned: Microsoft OneDrive was the culprit for things that didn't get moved by the software, and will be my nemesis either to live with or not.

**** Repost of my last post in the previous thread:

Have now figured out that what did and what did not get transferred by the Mover software from the old to the new was because of Microsoft's OneDrive, which someday I will try to rid myself of.

Iow, a folder of Pictures that *did* get transferred was not really transferred, it was in OneDrive and therefore available on the new.

The folder of Pictures that did NOT get transferred by the Mover software was in my This PC. For the amusement and looking-down-the-nose of all the High Techs, it was easy as pie just now to Save the entire missing folder onto a thumb and open it on the new machine. I won't download it until I'm sure that it won't go into OneDrive.

I've seen a few YouTubes about how to use OneDrive, take it off Default from Microsoft, and sort of get around it, but am nowhere ready to wade into all that for now.

Thanks to all who shared their expertise and advice! You might not realize it, but at my LowTech level this stress is literally toe-curling for me.

[marble falls]

1. I fucking hate Microsoft. I loathe Bill Gates. (think the world of Melinda)

[UTUSN]

2. I loathe the technology I don't choose to understand and don't keep up with GATES but

lean-favorable toward him for the philanthropy - at least better than MUSK-KRASNOV.

[marble falls]

5. I lean towards his wife's philanthropy. She also speaks that she was very unhappy with Bill's relationship ...

... with Jeffrey Epstein. And he was extremely casual about cheating on his wife with employees.

I get it: the Bill and Melinda Gates Trust did more for children's health in Africa than any government has. But Bill has severe ethic blips that bug me.

I would do anything to be MS-free. I use FireFox and duckduckgo. But I am also not a computer whiz. But my computer is MS predisposed and it's a fight to keep mozzilla and duckduck in my preferences. Between google and MS, I have to reset at least one or the other every month. I could mope slap Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Michael Dell and Bill Gates if ever given the opportunity.

[UTUSN]

6. I don't know the first two names, and will give you a Michael DELL.

Back when M. DELL was the new big thing I somehow achieved an antipathy to him that has never abated. I have zero idea what my antipathy started from, maybe politics? But I have never bought a single product named Dell, and have not heard of M.DELL for (decades?). I don't even care to do a google about him to find out what has become of him.

[marble falls]

10. The founders of google. If they drill oil in my backyard by slanting drilling from the neighbor's backyard ...

... they'd owe me a cut. They're selling my information that I did not give them. Where's my cut?

[EverHopeful]

7. Yes, better than Musk-Krasnov

but it took years of criticism from many sources before he gave philanthropy even a passing thought. Most criticism I saw was in print versions of magazines (back in the old days which were, by the way, before Gates realized the internet would be a thing).

Criticism was that someone so rich wasn't doing what the very rich had done in the past.

When he finally got started, IIRC, most of his initial "Donations" involved giving computers that used MS products to schools so students would get used to them and ask parents to choose them when buying home computers.

He was so late to awareness of the importance of the internet that he ended up making the Windows OS even worse by trying to claim that IE was an integral part of it.

Apologies for my rant and there are more serious distortions of history to pay attention to but, having lived through so many of the awful things Gates has done, I always like to point out some of the history.

[UTUSN]

8. Thanks for the info. If it's any comfort, my credit to him is as miniscule as what I know about him.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. I do not use the cloud (OneDrive) or Copilot

You do not know where your data is and who has it. Even Microsoft may be outsourcing its cloud servers.

Cloud server companies go bankrupt and Russian companies swoop in to buy them up and take the data.

Copilot is much too integrated into your PC data to be trusted. I uninstalled it from my Windows 11.

I'm thinking of buying a small complete computer the size of a deck of playing cards just for experimenting with AI (but not Copilot). I have one already that I use as my internet machine. I would use the new one as a self-contained unit for trying AI-assisted programming and AI generation of meme graphics but absolutely no personal stuff.

[UTUSN]

4. I just learned from a couple of YouTubes how embedded OneDrive is, is the Default for most

anything we Save. Will have to learn more if changing the Default for Saving over to This PC will help.

[marble falls]

9. No cloud here, fer sure! There's just too many back doors and exploiters for me to be as brave as you are!

[UTUSN]

11. *****UPDATE*** - possibly declaring victory prematurely & certainly small

So the general problem is having documents and pictures in OneDrive. Previously, OneDrive helped by having a few files important to me available in its cloud for accessing on the new machine, fine. Now knowing of that access on the new machine, the complaint is submitting to whatever OneDrive does and therefore wanting them in my own PC files (I'm faking knowing what I'm talking about).

I tried SaveAs to change the location, tried Copying the files to move to my PC location, nothing.

*** So small eureka, emailed myself with the OneDrive file attached, and when it arrived and downloaded, it opened up outside the OneDrive address. It was dicey, gmail saying the attachment exceeded 25 MB and would be sent as Google Drive - huh, is GDrive same or something like OneDrive? Well, it took a fairly long time to upload to GDrive and boom the email was gone and arrived in my Inbox almost immediately. AND it downloaded to my machine with a couple of dicey tries, but worked, and the address of the file was no longer OneDrive.

My immediate future will be doing this to the files important to me from OneDrive this way, and when I'm sure they are viable then Deleting the OneDrive ones. I'm sure there are sophisticated methods out there, but until they are within my low tech methods, my homemade thing seems to meet my needs.