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Related: About this forumAtoms For Justice: Dying of Thirst: Dispatches From the Energy Poor in Africa by Princy Mthonbeni.
Princy Mthonbeni is a pronuclear activist in Africa; I have followed her for a number of years; she is an impressive woman exuding intelligence and decency.

She has recently written a rather long eloquent, thoughtful, piece on poverty in Africa, energy poverty, and injustice and why small intermittent energy systems (which I read as so called "renewable energy) sometimes funded in a miserly self-congratulatory approach by the West represents a form of contempt for Africa.
The full article is here:
The Dying of Thirst
Subtitle:
It's worth a full read, but these excerpts struck me, as it is consistent with some long held views on parochialism in the horrible treatment by the rest of the world of Africans and Africa itself:
The children I saw waiting for water in eNanda do not need a philosophy of less. They need working systems. They need pipes, pumps, treatment plants, electricity, roads, clinics, schools, industry, and governments capable of maintaining all of it. They need abundance disciplined by responsibility, not scarcity decorated with moral language.
What troubles me is that many of the people most confident in this philosophy of less grew up inside abundance they did not have to notice. They grew up with lights that came on, schools that functioned, hospitals that had power, taps that ran, refrigerators that kept food safe, roads that could carry ambulances, and states wealthy enough to make infrastructure feel invisible.
Some of them come from countries whose clean electricity systems were built not by smallness, but by scale: by hydroelectric dams, nuclear power stations, strong grids, public institutions, engineering capacity, and generations of investment.11 They inherited the benefits of energy abundance and then learned to speak about restraint as though restraint were the highest moral achievement.
But restraint means something different when you begin from abundance than when you begin from deprivation. A wealthy society can romanticise using less because it already has more than enough. A poor community cannot romanticise less when less means darkness, unsafe water, smoke in the lungs, food without refrigeration, clinics without reliable electricity, and children walking before sunrise...
...The same pattern appears in development finance. For many years, the international institutions that shaped energy investment in poorer countries made renewable projects much easier to support than nuclear projects. Small solar, mini-grid, and distributed renewable programmes could be praised as climate solutions for Africa, while nuclear power was treated as too difficult, too expensive, too risky, or simply left outside the conversation.12
But for a country like South Africa, that exclusion makes no sense. We already operate Koeberg, the only nuclear power station on the African continent.13 We already have nuclear skills, nuclear institutions, nuclear regulators, nuclear workers, and coastal sites where future nuclear plants could produce electricity and support desalination.14 If international institutions are serious about climate, water, and development, they should not decide in advance that Africas clean energy future must be small, intermittent, and dependent. They should ask what scale of energy is required for Africans to live with dignity.
It is easier to romanticise low-energy living when you have never carried water before sunrise, cooked with imbawula or paraffin, studied by candlelight, or watched women spend hours each day securing the most basic necessities for survival.
For many Africans, the debate is not about choosing between development and dignity.
Development is dignity...
The bold, italics and underlining are all mine.
In recent times, I have been commenting in this space on a book I've been reading slowly, along with a number of others, this one:
The Elements of Power
Subtitle:
By Nicolas Niarchos
This is a book about the tragedy of energy related mining in Africa, and the suffering it involves. I have been hearing from the more smug battery worshipping types here, consistent with their contemptuous myopia, that the batteries that their hero, the asshole Elon Musk, makes no longer use lithium NMC chemistry, and so the cobalt slaves who worked in Africa for the rise of Tesla for pittances or nothing at all, often digging ores with no tools other than their bare hands, can now be freed, Elon's junk now having been switched to lithium iron phosphate. I note, with some disgust, that the copper mining slaves in Katanga haven't "lost" their "jobs." The unsustainable material (not to mention land) demands to generate, link, and store so called "renewable energy" still depends heavily on the exploitation of Africa, a major source of minerals. It's not like, either, that the lithium NMC battery chemistry has disappeared either just because Elon wants to market his cars using marginally worse performing batteries.
I could ask to be spared the bullshit, but my request will not be honored; I've been here long enough to know that.
We owe Africa decency. I certainly thank Princy Mthonbeni for her efforts on behalf of the environment, and in a more subtle way, humanity. In asking for decency for Africans she is asking us to rise out our obliviousness to our own lack of decency in the first world; she calls for us to climb out of the moral pit of the mindless pit consumption in which we in the wealthy world blithely live, to seek, to rise to, for our own moral betterment, as in the Lincolnian locution, "the better angels of our nature."
I invite you to be uplifted by awareness, and read this thoughtful piece.
DemocracyForever
(431 posts)but nuclear power is not Africa's savior. Nuclear power is much too expensive and toxic nuclear waste presents too great of a risk. There are far less costly and less toxic forms of renewable energy that are the far better option. This is what needs to be fully funded to help Africa transition away from the poisonous fossil fuels.
hunter
(40,998 posts)... but it's not significantly reducing our environmental footprints.
Why shouldn't people in Africa have what we had? My great grandparent's ranch got electric service thanks to FDR's New Deal. The ranch is still remote, about as far away as you can get from a WalMart in the 48 states. This electricity enabled them to have electric lighting, a radio, and later indoor plumbing with hot water coming out of the tap. That was followed by refrigerators, clothes washers and dryers, and so on. (My great grandma didn't believe in indoor plumbing but her grandkids certainly did.)
Conventional electric power system are simple, reliable, and made from abundant materials -- concrete, steel, and aluminium. Far less copper and other rare materials are used than any "renewable" energy scheme of equivalent capacity.
If the people of the U.S.A. were not so credulous we'd be building nuclear power plants at an increasing rate, eventually shutting down all remaining fossil fuel power plants. And we'd be encouraging other nations that followed a similar path.
Humanity has actually run out of options. If we don't quit fossil fuels the natural environment that supports us will collapse. The only energy resource that can displace fossil fuels entirely and support 8 billion people is nuclear power. That's the reality we find ourselves in. It's not a political issue -- left or right, Democratic or Republican, socialist or capitalist.
Anti-nuclear activism is just an alternative brand of climate change denial.
DemocracyForever
(431 posts)Renewable energy is actually reducing energy costs. Trump's budget cutting that's slashing the development of renewable energy favor of the more expensive and poisonous fossil fuels is what's causing energy costs to go up. California's focus on renewable sources of energy has grown it's economy from being the world's 9th largest economy to now being the world's 4th largest economy. You also need to know that renewable sources of energy are putting coal companies out of business on a regular basis now because renewable sources of energy are now cheaper than coal and they don't poison the planet the way coal does. In May 2026, renewable energy generated more electricity that coal and it's continuing to grow, It's important to remember that too much electricity is still being generated by burning the planet killing fossil fuels. FYI, my engineer father always taught me that nuclear power is not green because no one has figured out what to do with the toxic nuclear waste .In addition, he also taught me that nuclear power is much too expensive. Nuclear power is way more expensive than renewable sources of energy. I want the people of Africa to have the best of everything. Nuclear power is not the solution.
OKIsItJustMe
(22,480 posts)November 10, 2025
Californias Electricity Crisis: Why Rates Keep Going Up
California has some of the highest electricity prices in the country, and theyre rising faster than ever. The three biggest utilities, PG&E, SCE, and SDG&E, have all announced new rate increases for 2025 and 2026.
Heres whats driving the surge:
- Wildfire recovery and prevention costs. Utilities are spending billions to bury power lines, replace transformers, and reduce fire risks.
- Aging infrastructure. Much of Californias grid is decades old, requiring massive modernization.
- Climate goals and renewable integration. The shift to clean energy is critical but expensive in the short term.
- Administrative and transmission fees. These are quietly added onto every bill, often making up 30 to 40 percent of the total.
So, producing electricity from wind and solar is relatively inexpensive, but, in the short term, there are capital investments which must be made. That raises bills.
Wind and solar, as any skeptic will tell you are variable sources, unlike a coal plant or a nuclear plant which (generally) provide constant base load power. (Nuclear power plants must be taken off-line for periodic maintenance, like replacing fuel, and like other thermal power plants, which work by boiling massive amounts of water, they may also be shut down due to droughts, or heat waves.)
https://www.technologyreview.com/2026/06/24/1139676/europe-heat-power-plants/
Rising temperatures can affect our power supply, including nuclear and natural-gas power plants.
By Casey Crownhart June 24, 2026
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Europe is in the middle of a record-breaking heat wave, and the grid is being pushed to its limits as people turn to fans and air-conditioning to try to stay cool. Some power plants wont be online to help handle the load.
On June 23, France saw its hottest day since record-keeping began in 1947. Temperatures climbed to over 44 °C (111 °F), and overnight temperatures remained unusually high. This prolonged hot weather warmed up the water in some rivers across the country, a problem for the many nuclear plants that rely on those bodies of water for cooling. One reactor has already shut down, and others are being ramped down or will see limitations later in the week.
Unit two at the Golfech nuclear power plant in southern France shut down at about 11:45 p.m. on June 22 when the river used to cool the plant got too hot. The move was a precautionary measure, according to Brid Nelligan, a spokesperson for EDF, the plants owner and operator.
The power plant takes in water from the Garonne River and then returns most of it to the river at slightly higher temperatures after using it to cool equipment. French regulations limit the temperature of that return stream, so the warm water (it was expected to reach 28 °C, or around 82 °F) forced the operator to shut down the plant.
Disposing of high-level waste is not really a mystery which needs to be solved, most countries (including the US, 4 decades ago) have decided that the solution is to bury it. A great deal of research has gone into how best to do this. However, only one country, Finland, has actually started doing it.
- https://www.science.org/content/article/finland-built-tomb-store-nuclear-waste-can-it-survive-100000-years
- https://www.euronews.com/2026/04/09/in-finland-the-worlds-first-facility-to-bury-nuclear-waste-is-set-to-begin-operations
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repository
Sweden is working on a similar facility, but construction has only just begun. Operations are expected to begin in the 2030s.
Some Nuclear advocates promote recycling spent fuel to power new reactors. (They argue that its not really spent per se.) However once again, this answer is more nuanced. We cannot, for example, simply burn recycled fuel in currently operating reactors.
https://e360.yale.edu/features/nuclear-waste-recycling
As interest in nuclear power rises, startups are pursuing plans to recycle spent fuel and reuse its untapped energy to power reactors. Advocates tout new recycling methods as a breakthrough, but many experts warn it will extract plutonium that could be used for nuclear weapons.
BY REBECCA TUHUS-DUBROW APRIL 2, 2025
Nuclear power plants keep their waste close by. Every nuclear plant in the United States includes an area onsite where spent fuel is being stored. This material ceramic pellets stacked into rods and bundled together consists mostly of uranium. But the spent fuel also includes elements that were created during the process: fast-decaying radionuclides such as cesium and strontium, as well as longer-lived, heavier elements, notably plutonium. Emanating intense heat and radiation, the spent fuel rods are placed first in cooling pools and then in dry cask storage steel canisters that block these radioactive isotopes from escaping.
Most would see this legacy of radioactive waste as a burden and a danger. But some are now seeing it differently: as an asset and an opportunity. Although no longer capable of efficiently fissioning, spent fuel still contains significant amounts of untapped energy that can be harnessed and used again. In other words, it can be recycled particularly in certain types of advanced reactors currently in development. Recycling would not only shrink the volume of radioactive material that would eventually need to be buried underground, advocates say, but it could also reduce the need to mine new uranium, another controversial aspect of the nuclear fuel cycle.
Recycling nuclear waste is probably the single biggest point of contention among people who otherwise support nuclear power.
It sounds like a win-win, as sensible as putting our aluminum cans in the bins with chasing arrows. And as interest in nuclear energy has grown in recent years driven by climate concerns and, more recently, demand from energy-intensive data centers so has enthusiasm in some quarters for recycling this waste stream. Late last year, the Department of Energy announced $10 million in funding for research on recycling technologies and at least two relevant bipartisan bills were introduced in Congress: one would require the Secretary of Energy to study new technologies and opportunities for recycling spent nuclear fuel; another would streamline licensing requirements for recycling facilities.
Several advanced nuclear startups, including Oklo and Curio, say they intend to run their reactors exclusively on spent fuel. Oklo, backed by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and based in Santa Clara, California, is working toward building its first commercial unit at the Department of Energys Idaho National Laboratory. Jake DeWitte, Oklos CEO, told me, Frankly, theres enough energy content in the waste of todays reactors to power the whole country for 150 years.